Roster/Staff Updates

[AppStFan1]

Cross hasn't said anything on any of his social media accounts except he now has appstate_fb listed in his Instagram bio. Some guys just don't post much about things. Recent 27' commit Arwin Jackson never posted about an offer from App before he came here on an OV and then committed. Just part of the game these days.

It looks like Phil Steele Magazine broke the news. I thought perhaps it was a typo when I saw the preseason All-Sun Belt teams last week but then I saw he is listed on our depth chart so I figured there had to be something to it. I am told that Loggains told Phil during their phone call. I wonder if Phil Steele even realized he was breaking news. lol

[ASUFan4863]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

[AppStFan1]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

Yeah it turned out he had been but nobody in the media reported it. Neither App nor Cross said anything publicly as well. Just found it interesting that we confirm it publicly through seeing his name listed in Phil Steele Magazine.

[t4pizza]

AppStFan1 is correct. Winning makes people happy and shut up. Losing makes people mad and complain.

Anyone advocating for a coaching change this early, including 94, are doing so because they either A.) do not personally like the coach or B.) harboring negative feelings towards the firing of the previous coach.

Many of these people, including 94, will endlessly state they are rooting for the coach to succeed, but they just simply aren’t.

I actually think that I may have been the first person to come on here and publicly call for him to be fired last year. After we got lambasted in a game, I did come on here and advocate for firing our coach, but neither of your positions apply to me. I was simply embarrassed by the product on the field and what I perceived as a lack of coaching ability to put a winning product on the field. I did later admit that I was a bit hasty in that position, but I still said what I said based purely on how we looked on the field.

I haven't personally known any App coach or had access to any so I can't say whether I personally like(d) any of them or care about not having a voice, and I do believe that it was time to move on from our previous coach. So, I think you need to add a third category, those that don't think he is doing a good job (however premature those feelings are). I hope for nothing else but DLo to figure it out and lead App to a conference title (it's been far too long), but sadly I have seen nothing on the field or in his history that suggests that will happen. His recent high school recruiting does look very good, hopefully some of them can pan out early and we can have a winning season.

Interesting perspective and thanks for owning up to your previous statements. So based on your statement last year when you said you advocated for his firing, if you were the AD, would you have actually done it or were you just throwing a fit and kicking chairs in the conference room until your boiling blood cooled off? If serious, exactly HOW would you have executed such a firing of a FIRST year HC considering the real world state of our university and athletic financial considerations and series of resulting consequences of such a move? It sounds easy but just the fact of pulling the trigger on a fire is one thing but the WHOLE resulting impact would have been substantial. How would you have managed all of that? That is probably why many folks said those statements are not appropriate at that place and time. Please explain it to me? (since it is the offseason and we have some time and this is the "Staff Updates" thread.

If I were the AD, as a general rule, no I would not fire any coach during his first year. That being said, there are always exceptions to any rule. As bad as I think we looked last year, I do not think it was bad enough to fire during the coaches first year. However, if an AD felt that it was that bad then the trigger needs to be pulled. Keeping a coach that can't get it done can really make things far worse than giving it extra time therefore making the impact of firing early less substantial than additional years of losing. There are difficult parts of being an AD, firing a coach is one of them.

[Bootsy]

AppStFan1 is correct. Winning makes people happy and shut up. Losing makes people mad and complain.

Anyone advocating for a coaching change this early, including 94, are doing so because they either A.) do not personally like the coach or B.) harboring negative feelings towards the firing of the previous coach.

Many of these people, including 94, will endlessly state they are rooting for the coach to succeed, but they just simply aren’t.

I actually think that I may have been the first person to come on here and publicly call for him to be fired last year. After we got lambasted in a game, I did come on here and advocate for firing our coach, but neither of your positions apply to me. I was simply embarrassed by the product on the field and what I perceived as a lack of coaching ability to put a winning product on the field. I did later admit that I was a bit hasty in that position, but I still said what I said based purely on how we looked on the field.

I haven't personally known any App coach or had access to any so I can't say whether I personally like(d) any of them or care about not having a voice, and I do believe that it was time to move on from our previous coach. So, I think you need to add a third category, those that don't think he is doing a good job (however premature those feelings are). I hope for nothing else but DLo to figure it out and lead App to a conference title (it's been far too long), but sadly I have seen nothing on the field or in his history that suggests that will happen. His recent high school recruiting does look very good, hopefully some of them can pan out early and we can have a winning season.

Interesting perspective and thanks for owning up to your previous statements. So based on your statement last year when you said you advocated for his firing, if you were the AD, would you have actually done it or were you just throwing a fit and kicking chairs in the conference room until your boiling blood cooled off? If serious, exactly HOW would you have executed such a firing of a FIRST year HC considering the real world state of our university and athletic financial considerations and series of resulting consequences of such a move? It sounds easy but just the fact of pulling the trigger on a fire is one thing but the WHOLE resulting impact would have been substantial. How would you have managed all of that? That is probably why many folks said those statements are not appropriate at that place and time. Please explain it to me? (since it is the offseason and we have some time and this is the "Staff Updates" thread.

If I were the AD, as a general rule, no I would not fire any coach during his first year. That being said, there are always exceptions to any rule. As bad as I think we looked last year, I do not think it was bad enough to fire during the coaches first year. However, if an AD felt that it was that bad then the trigger needs to be pulled. Keeping a coach that can't get it done can really make things far worse than giving it extra time therefore making the impact of firing early less substantial than additional years of losing. There are difficult parts of being an AD, firing a coach is one of them.

The AD is part of the problem, but he’s bulletproof now.

[ASUFan4863]

Cross is a more complete back than roberts and probably overtakes him in the rotation by conference play, assuming he is the same player post-injury.

[appstate24]

Cross is a more complete back than roberts and probably overtakes him in the rotation by conference play, assuming he is the same player post-injury.

How is the kid from Florida, Treyan Webb progressing?. One of my buddies is a huge Gator fan. He spoke really highly of this kid. Hated to see him leave their program.

GO APPS!!

[biggie]

Seems we have a lot at RB right now, but we don't really know what we have. Not sure with Roberts post injury. We mostly know Lewis, but everyone else we don't.

[ASUFan4863]

Cross is a more complete back than roberts and probably overtakes him in the rotation by conference play, assuming he is the same player post-injury.

How is the kid from Florida, Treyan Webb progressing?. One of my buddies is a huge Gator fan. He spoke really highly of this kid. Hated to see him leave their program.

GO APPS!!

I don’t really have much feedback on specific players, but by all accounts the RB room is a strength of the team *IF* healthy and that was before the Cross addition. Webb should play a key role in that.

Injuries always occur at that position, so it’s great to have 4-5 guys now who are all capable and bring different elements to the room.

[biggie]

Bigger question may be our OL for running game.

[ASUFan4863]

Bigger question may be our OL for running game.

This is very true. I believe having a truly mobile QB will help offset a questionable OL. For decade(s), the program ran the same scheme and beat teams because of elite OLs. A similar scheme with an added wrinkle of the QB should help keep defenses honest and open up lanes.

[311neers]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

Who the heck is Angelo?

Lewis
Kanye
Webb
Didn’t we take a transfer too?
And an incoming Freshman?

Webb was a legit UGA commit/take for the longest time. He flipped to Florida late in the cycle. Was pretty highly touted from what I recall.

[biggie]

Current roster:

Jaysen Angulo Running Back 6'0" 170 lbs Redshirt Senior Charlotte, N.C. Ardrey Kell Methodist
J’Marion Burnette Running Back 6'2" 225 lbs Junior Andalusia, Ala. Andalusia Houston
Max Guest Running Back 5'9" 185 lbs Redshirt Freshman Asheville, N.C. A.C. Reynolds
Jaquari Lewis Running Back 5'10" 205 lbs Sophomore Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Chaminade-Madonna
Kanye Roberts Running Back 6'0" 205 lbs Redshirt Senior Wallace, N.C. Wallace-Rose Hill
Treyaun Webb Running Back 5'11" 215 lbs Redshirt Junior Jacksonville, Fla. Trinity Christian Florida

[AppSt94]

Those are some solid backs. A healthy rotation of 2 or 3 will wear down a front 7 over a game if they are allowed to establish a running game.

[biggie]

No true fresh to redshirt, so wonder how many see action.

From watching him in games Lewis doesn't look like 205, always assumed that he was smaller than Roberts.

[AppDub]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

Who the heck is Angelo?

Lewis
Kanye
Webb
Didn’t we take a transfer too?
And an incoming Freshman?

Webb was a legit UGA commit/take for the longest time. He flipped to Florida late in the cycle. Was pretty highly touted from what I recall.

Is he back to 100% healthy. The Florida fan boards seemed high on him and hated to lose him, but I remember their being some health issues in the past. Hope he's back to full strength.

[ASUFan4863]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

Who the heck is Angelo?

Lewis
Kanye
Webb
Didn’t we take a transfer too?
And an incoming Freshman?

Webb was a legit UGA commit/take for the longest time. He flipped to Florida late in the cycle. Was pretty highly touted from what I recall.

Is he back to 100% healthy. The Florida fan boards seemed high on him and hated to lose him, but I remember their being some health issues in the past. Hope he's back to full strength.

He is scheduled to be for fall camp. Someone else asked who Angelo was - He is a walk on who played a significant portion of the spring game. Lewis and Burnette (Houston Transfer) were nicked up; Roberts and Webb were still recovering, so that forced Angelo and Guest to play a lot.

[311neers]

Cross has been penciled in for a while. He had to finish up classes first. We saw in the spring game that depth was needed. We cannot rely on Angelo to take carries like he did in the spring game.

Who the heck is Angelo?

Lewis
Kanye
Webb
Didn’t we take a transfer too?
And an incoming Freshman?

Webb was a legit UGA commit/take for the longest time. He flipped to Florida late in the cycle. Was pretty highly touted from what I recall.

Is he back to 100% healthy. The Florida fan boards seemed high on him and hated to lose him, but I remember their being some health issues in the past. Hope he's back to full strength.

He is scheduled to be for fall camp. Someone else asked who Angelo was - He is a walk on who played a significant portion of the spring game. Lewis and Burnette (Houston Transfer) were nicked up; Roberts and Webb were still recovering, so that forced Angelo and Guest to play a lot.

So our top 4 we're hurt causing the next 2 up. Seems pretty normal for a spring game. Hopefully the top 5 and now 6 (with Cross) are ready for fall and we won't need Angelo or even Guest. Only 6 runningbacks does seem light so I am glad we added a 7th knowing how beat up our backfield always gets.

[AppGrad78]

Don’t sleep on J’Marion Burnette.

[biggie]

Don’t sleep on J’Marion Burnette.

Peoples type? At least from size.