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Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Captain Morgan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm

We are who we are. I like our current regional footprint. Real rivalries, low travel costs. Going to AAC (which is being plucked) or a Pac 12, that's not a good move imho. All we have is football, basketball is good now until our coach is poached. Plus we have a new coach, and who knows if we'll be successful in football.

The AAC's tv money is about to be cut in half with the departures of their premium programs, and will still be more than Sun Belt, but I'd rather keep our current rivals. Not only do we have Marshall, but new rivalries have developed like James Madison and Coastal. I like the passion more than traveling to the west coast for whoever is in the new Pac conference.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:30 pm

If we went to AAC, would we bring Georgia Southern along after us like last time?

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:38 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
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If we went to AAC, would we bring Georgia Southern along after us like last time?
I’d think no. Marsha or Jimmy Mads are probably more desirable to the AAC.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppinVA » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:44 pm

I like where we are. I also like keeping our opinions open.
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Stonewall » Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:32 pm

I asked someone about Southern. He said basically that we don’t need them. Everyone looks after their own best interests .

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Bootsy » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:12 pm

Is it fair to assume a reconstituted “PAC-12” will have the clout to pull a favorable TV deal? Please forgive me if I don’t feel very confident about the prospects.

I’m also wondering about Memphis and Tulane, but more so the Green Wave. If Sumrall keeps things rolling down there, I could see Tulane scoring a P4 invite. They already fit the mold in many ways.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:09 am

Stonewall wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:32 pm
I asked someone about Southern. He said basically that we don’t need them. Everyone looks after their own best interests .
I think we did when we first came up but I agree with that thought now. If the roles were reversed I have no doubt they would leave us. I would rather take Marshall, JMU, Southern Miss, ODU, or Troy with us if we left.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:52 am

Stonewall wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:28 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
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Thoughts on App joining the AAC if they have a few spots open up? I don't see their members coming this way with the large exit fees.
They may harbor some ill will from the previous conversation. If not we would need to look at the comprehensive financial picture. I’m told it’s not what we have our sights set on.
I don't love the AAC setup in general, but the thought of having two in-state conference mates along with some of our current SBC brethren is intriguing. I'm just not sure how ECU could make the financials work to join the SBC. They would be a perfect fit though. I can take or leave UNCC, but they are close by and would provide an easy trip for our alumni to watch multiple sports play.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:56 am

Captain Morgan wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm
We are who we are. I like our current regional footprint. Real rivalries, low travel costs. Going to AAC (which is being plucked) or a Pac 12, that's not a good move imho. All we have is football, basketball is good now until our coach is poached. Plus we have a new coach, and who knows if we'll be successful in football.

The AAC's tv money is about to be cut in half with the departures of their premium programs, and will still be more than Sun Belt, but I'd rather keep our current rivals. Not only do we have Marshall, but new rivalries have developed like James Madison and Coastal. I like the passion more than traveling to the west coast for whoever is in the new Pac conference.
The only way the PAC would work for us is if they had an entire eastern division of nine or ten teams. That, to me, would be worth considering depending on who is in and what TV would pay.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:00 am

JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:56 am
Captain Morgan wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm
We are who we are. I like our current regional footprint. Real rivalries, low travel costs. Going to AAC (which is being plucked) or a Pac 12, that's not a good move imho. All we have is football, basketball is good now until our coach is poached. Plus we have a new coach, and who knows if we'll be successful in football.

The AAC's tv money is about to be cut in half with the departures of their premium programs, and will still be more than Sun Belt, but I'd rather keep our current rivals. Not only do we have Marshall, but new rivalries have developed like James Madison and Coastal. I like the passion more than traveling to the west coast for whoever is in the new Pac conference.
The only way the PAC would work for us is if they had an entire eastern division of nine or ten teams. That, to me, would be worth considering depending on who is in and what TV would pay.
For football, only need 8 more if stay with 8 conference games and 4 nonconference games. The problem becomes other sports and travel.
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by app97 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:31 am

AppinVA wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:44 pm
I like where we are. I also like keeping our opinions open.
Yes. Always keep opinions open and in flux based on new and evolving information. Growth mindset.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:46 am

JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:28 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:52 pm
Thoughts on App joining the AAC if they have a few spots open up? I don't see their members coming this way with the large exit fees.
They may harbor some ill will from the previous conversation. If not we would need to look at the comprehensive financial picture. I’m told it’s not what we have our sights set on.
I don't love the AAC setup in general, but the thought of having two in-state conference mates along with some of our current SBC brethren is intriguing. I'm just not sure how ECU could make the financials work to join the SBC. They would be a perfect fit though. I can take or leave UNCC, but they are close by and would provide an easy trip for our alumni to watch multiple sports play.
IMO the 2 instate rivals don’t outweigh Marsha+CCU+south ga+Jimmy mads. Yes it’s nice to host uncc in Charlotte every other year but we have a long term series anyway. They suck at basketball and we suck at baseball.

It’s the service academies that make the aac appealing. Memphis too but I’m assuming they’ll be gone if the aac comes around.

Finances didn’t work last time, I’ve heard both we couldn’t meet their revenue requirement and that their package they offered wouldn’t have netted us any additional money. Probably both true.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:16 am

BambooRdApp wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:00 am
JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:56 am
Captain Morgan wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:03 pm
We are who we are. I like our current regional footprint. Real rivalries, low travel costs. Going to AAC (which is being plucked) or a Pac 12, that's not a good move imho. All we have is football, basketball is good now until our coach is poached. Plus we have a new coach, and who knows if we'll be successful in football.

The AAC's tv money is about to be cut in half with the departures of their premium programs, and will still be more than Sun Belt, but I'd rather keep our current rivals. Not only do we have Marshall, but new rivalries have developed like James Madison and Coastal. I like the passion more than traveling to the west coast for whoever is in the new Pac conference.
The only way the PAC would work for us is if they had an entire eastern division of nine or ten teams. That, to me, would be worth considering depending on who is in and what TV would pay.
For football, only need 8 more if stay with 8 conference games and 4 nonconference games. The problem becomes other sports and travel.
Could we fix that if football and basketball unionize so we have a CBA and then lower the minimum of sports to be D1? I am wondering if something happens due to the Title IX lawsuits? If the whole argument is due to revenue sharing then we need to do something with how we classify sports and make them show they bring in revenue in order to get a share of the pie, right?

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 9:47 am

BallantyneApp wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:46 am
JTApps1 wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:52 am
Stonewall wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:28 pm
JTApps1 wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:52 pm
Thoughts on App joining the AAC if they have a few spots open up? I don't see their members coming this way with the large exit fees.
They may harbor some ill will from the previous conversation. If not we would need to look at the comprehensive financial picture. I’m told it’s not what we have our sights set on.
I don't love the AAC setup in general, but the thought of having two in-state conference mates along with some of our current SBC brethren is intriguing. I'm just not sure how ECU could make the financials work to join the SBC. They would be a perfect fit though. I can take or leave UNCC, but they are close by and would provide an easy trip for our alumni to watch multiple sports play.
IMO the 2 instate rivals don’t outweigh Marsha+CCU+south ga+Jimmy mads. Yes it’s nice to host uncc in Charlotte every other year but we have a long term series anyway. They suck at basketball and we suck at baseball.

It’s the service academies that make the aac appealing. Memphis too but I’m assuming they’ll be gone if the aac comes around.

Finances didn’t work last time, I’ve heard both we couldn’t meet their revenue requirement and that their package they offered wouldn’t have netted us any additional money. Probably both true.
100% agree.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:06 am

Bootsy wrote:
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"Pac-12"
Exactly…glad to see I wasn’t the only one who found that humorous.
Yes it is funny. Expected to join a “12” team conference that no longer exists.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:57 am

Bigdaddyg1 wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:06 am
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:02 pm
EastHallApp wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:51 pm
"Pac-12"
Exactly…glad to see I wasn’t the only one who found that humorous.
Yes it is funny. Expected to join a “12” team conference that no longer exists.
Should be just get sponsorship from Pac Sun and change name to that...$$ 🤣🤣
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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by AppWyo » Tue Jun 17, 2025 4:41 pm

The Ragin Cajuns want no part of LaTech joining the Sun Belt. I believe that would be a hard sell. https://forumeus.com/showthread.php/333 ... Belt/page4

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by spacemonkey » Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:39 pm

I love the idea of 12 east 12 west and play a championship game but no regular season conference games. I wish we would quit begging p4s to play and make our own set up that the champion would get the the g5 spot. Retain the rights to that championship game. If the top 24 teams from g6 are in this conference the champion should always get the g5 spot.

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Re: Texas State "heavy favorite" to join Pac-12, LaTech favored to join Sun Belt

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:12 pm

Sorry,, not a fan. I like idea of playing one Power school each year when we can. Otherwise, I like the idea.
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