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Realistic coaching options for 2025...

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by t4pizza » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:18 pm

BeauFoster wrote:
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One of my favorites, Jerry Mack, just hired at Kennesaw. If Kerwin Bell doesn't go to Charlotte, would be interesting.

I think now more than ever, we need to look outside the App tree.
Is Kerwin getting too old? He'll be 60 by next season. A very good resume though.
I was in the Kerwin camp back in 09 before the Drink hire surprised us all. He is a good proven coach, but I think we can aim a little higher now. Had he won a conference title or two at Western I may feel differently but he hasn't.
If he had won a conference championship at WCU he’d be in line for the Clemson job. Winning at Western is hall of fame kinda stuff
And that is exactly what I want from a coach, I don't care if it means he leaves after a season or three.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by mike87 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:22 pm

I'm going to bet whomever it is, their name isn't mentioned on this board until it's announced.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by WASU 93 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:24 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
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RadioNeer98 wrote:
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Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Did he?

Wins were against Charlotte, Gardner-Webb (which was a struggle), blowouts of UNC, Ball State, GaSt and Coastal and a win over Southern Miss. (No one with a winning record)
Lost to ULM, App, Gaso and Marshall

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by BeauFoster » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:24 pm

mike87 wrote:
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I'm going to bet whomever it is, their name isn't mentioned on this board until it's announced.
Worked out well the last time that happened…
Give 'em hell!

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:33 pm

I wouldn’t.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by goapps93 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:37 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:24 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm
RadioNeer98 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Did he?

Wins were against Charlotte, Gardner-Webb (which was a struggle), blowouts of UNC, Ball State, GaSt and Coastal and a win over Southern Miss. (No one with a winning record)
Lost to ULM, App, Gaso and Marshall
Coming from DII to a team that lost many of its top players, yes he did, no matter who the wins were against. He was 8-4 and going to a bowl. And with no experience dealing with NIL or Transfer Portal, which was the main reason I responded. If his wasn't "a pretty good year" then I'm not sure what is.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by hapapp » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:42 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm
RadioNeer98 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Holy Cross is FCS.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:46 pm

Not sure if mentioned already but heard DC at State is possible candidate

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by MtnMan14 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:47 pm

hapapp wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:42 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm
RadioNeer98 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Holy Cross is FCS.
Glad someone finally mentioned it. We look like those same clowns who say App used to be D2

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by diehardapp18 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:49 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:46 pm
Not sure if mentioned already but heard DC at State is possible candidate
Think I might be more interested in the one at Duke tbh

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by 311neers » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:50 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:46 pm
Not sure if mentioned already but heard DC at State is possible candidate
Think I might be more interested in the one at Duke tbh

State’s defense was trash. And he already makes over $1M/year. Doesn’t seem likely/no thanks.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by WASU 93 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:50 pm

goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:37 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:24 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm
RadioNeer98 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Did he?

Wins were against Charlotte, Gardner-Webb (which was a struggle), blowouts of UNC, Ball State, GaSt and Coastal and a win over Southern Miss. (No one with a winning record)
Lost to ULM, App, Gaso and Marshall
Coming from DII to a team that lost many of its top players, yes he did, no matter who the wins were against. He was 8-4 and going to a bowl. And with no experience dealing with NIL or Transfer Portal, which was the main reason I responded. If his wasn't "a pretty good year" then I'm not sure what is.
I agree on the NIL/Transfer-other than you may want someone who has dealt with it in some capacity/possibly coming from a P4 as a recruiter. We just let a guy go because averaging 8 wins, getting to a bowl 3 out 5 years wasn't enough (while not picking up marquee wins). Hence, my context.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by goapps93 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:53 pm

hapapp wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:42 pm
goapps93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:14 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:09 pm
RadioNeer98 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:57 pm
Just a thought but why not look at Montana State, NDSU, SDSU from the FCS ranks? Been really good consistently.
Pre-NIL, this would be a good option.

Nowadays, unless you can find someone who has successfully handled NIL and the Transfer Portal, it's going to be a crap shoot.

Unless you take the Stanford approach and hire a GM, and just let the coach handle X's and O's

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... e-football
Jury's still out but Chesney at JMU had a pretty good year coming from DII. And, has anybody "successfully" handled NIL and TP? Whatever that even means. It's all a crap shoot right now.
Holy Cross is FCS.
I stand corrected but I think the rest holds true.
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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by 311neers » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:54 pm

We can speculate/guess on who it is all day long.

When do we expect to land a head coach? I recall the Shawn Clark hire (publicly) took a couple weeks. Maybe I am mistaken.
Before Christmas? 2 weeks? Sooner rather than later hopefully.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by BUTCH1991 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm

And who is the interim coach or is there anyone still on staff?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by diehardapp18 » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:57 pm

311neers wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:54 pm
We can speculate/guess on who it is all day long.

When do we expect to land a head coach? I recall the Shawn Clark hire (publicly) took a couple weeks. Maybe I am mistaken.
Before Christmas? 2 weeks? Sooner rather than later hopefully.
It has to be sooner than that because the portal opens soon. I bet we’ll know something within a week.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:59 pm

311neers wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:50 pm
diehardapp18 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:49 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:46 pm
Not sure if mentioned already but heard DC at State is possible candidate
Think I might be more interested in the one at Duke tbh

State’s defense was trash. And he already makes over $1M/year. Doesn’t seem likely/no thanks.
Don’t necessarily disagree with you but saw we have already been in contact

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by The Rock » Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:59 pm

BUTCH1991 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:55 pm
And who is the interim coach or is there anyone still on staff?
Do we need an interim for locker clean out? We don’t have championship or bowl game to prepare for. Why do we need a interim?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:01 pm

Players meeting just broke up. Things seem to be moving fast.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Post by KentHogan » Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:08 pm

If I were placing an order for a new coach, it would be a young P4 offensive coordinator, who’s creative and looking to win big at App and then move to a bigger job.

If he stays a while then great, but we need to get past this idea of finding a forever guy. It’s not realistic any longer.

Hopefully the P4 guy can bring along some P4 talent with him.

It will be interesting.

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