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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:48 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:56 am
GreatAppSt wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:29 pm
I've stewed on this awhile but here goes. "I’ve seen it mentioned that DG will not terminate Coach Clark after December 1st due to the absence of a full-time Chancellor.

If that’s the case, it would suggests that DG is simply a bureaucrat not an actual leader the athletic department needs.
I believe that inaction on DG’s part would be viewed more unfavorably than standing pat and passing the buck so to speak to the incoming Chancellor. This could potentially lead to DG’s replacement as well. That’s just my perspective. thoughts?....
So are you suggesting that the only justifiable action is termination?

A new Chancellor is likely going to want to select his/her own AD, who in turn would want to pick their head coach.
Would think that would depend on who chancellor is, correct? A new chancellor may or may not want to make that change. Would Heather want to make a change for sure if she gets the job?

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:57 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:48 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:56 am
GreatAppSt wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:29 pm
I've stewed on this awhile but here goes. "I’ve seen it mentioned that DG will not terminate Coach Clark after December 1st due to the absence of a full-time Chancellor.

If that’s the case, it would suggests that DG is simply a bureaucrat not an actual leader the athletic department needs.
I believe that inaction on DG’s part would be viewed more unfavorably than standing pat and passing the buck so to speak to the incoming Chancellor. This could potentially lead to DG’s replacement as well. That’s just my perspective. thoughts?....
So are you suggesting that the only justifiable action is termination?

A new Chancellor is likely going to want to select his/her own AD, who in turn would want to pick their head coach.
Would think that would depend on who chancellor is, correct? A new chancellor may or may not want to make that change. Would Heather want to make a change for sure if she gets the job?
I don’t have any idea what her relationship with Doug is to answer that with certainty. With everything that she is navigating, I imagine that she is going to let those paid to make those calls, make them.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by GreatAppSt » Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:48 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:56 am
GreatAppSt wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:29 pm
I've stewed on this awhile but here goes. "I’ve seen it mentioned that DG will not terminate Coach Clark after December 1st due to the absence of a full-time Chancellor.

If that’s the case, it would suggests that DG is simply a bureaucrat not an actual leader the athletic department needs.
I believe that inaction on DG’s part would be viewed more unfavorably than standing pat and passing the buck so to speak to the incoming Chancellor. This could potentially lead to DG’s replacement as well. That’s just my perspective. thoughts?....
So are you suggesting that the only justifiable action is termination?
What I'm suggesting is the AD is facing a Hobson's choice, and the new Chancellor will face a Morton's fork choice thereafter whether to keep him. DG IMHO is in a real pickle.
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:31 am

GreatAppSt wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:48 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:56 am
GreatAppSt wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:29 pm
I've stewed on this awhile but here goes. "I’ve seen it mentioned that DG will not terminate Coach Clark after December 1st due to the absence of a full-time Chancellor.

If that’s the case, it would suggests that DG is simply a bureaucrat not an actual leader the athletic department needs.
I believe that inaction on DG’s part would be viewed more unfavorably than standing pat and passing the buck so to speak to the incoming Chancellor. This could potentially lead to DG’s replacement as well. That’s just my perspective. thoughts?....
So are you suggesting that the only justifiable action is termination?
What I'm suggesting is the AD is facing a Hobson's choice, and the new Chancellor will face a Morton's fork choice thereafter whether to keep him. DG IMHO is in a real pickle.
Agree. And for someone that wants to please everyone, it is even harder.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by BeauFoster » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am

They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

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Give 'em hell!

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Unread post by 311neers » Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:57 am

Check emails. Yosef Club Survey is out. Let your voice be heard, one way or another.
There is an interesting question at the end.

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Unread post by ArmantiWaterSafety » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:26 am

Just FYI, the question of the Yosef Club survey "will you continue to be a member in 2025" is the last question and there's no going back so if there is anything you want to say, say it there.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:46 pm

JMU game= SOLD OUT!!
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Unread post by t4pizza » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:54 pm

Our fans really are second to none. Find me another G5 program that can sell out their stadium in the midst of a down year (many would suggest down years). The support that we give our team is the best in G5. We deserve better than we have been getting.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by MDaniels » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm

BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am
They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

-Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:36 pm

MDaniels wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm
BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am
They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

-Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
Mitch was a comedic genius!!!
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Unread post by BeauFoster » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:47 pm

AppinVA wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:36 pm
MDaniels wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm
BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am
They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

-Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
Mitch was a comedic genius!!!
“I’m sick of following my dreams, man. I’m gonna ask them where they are going and hook up with them later.”

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:57 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:54 pm
Our fans really are second to none. Find me another G5 program that can sell out their stadium in the midst of a down year (many would suggest down years). The support that we give our team is the best in G5. We deserve better than we have been getting.
It would be a MAJOR mistake for the administration to take the support for granted. When you stop coming and find other things to do on a Saturday it becomes easy to stay away. Another year like this one and both students and season ticket holders will become increasingly apathetic. Dangerous times ahead if they kick the can.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by MDaniels » Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:51 pm

BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:47 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:36 pm
MDaniels wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm
BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am
They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

-Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
Mitch was a comedic genius!!!
“I’m sick of following my dreams, man. I’m gonna ask them where they are going and hook up with them later.”

“What happened to the Dufresnes?”
I once saw a wino eating grapes and I said “hey man, you have to wait”
" I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:36 pm

MDaniels wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:51 pm
BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:47 pm
AppinVA wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:36 pm
MDaniels wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:44 pm
BeauFoster wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2024 9:03 am
They say you can’t make all of the people happy all the time, and last night all of those people were at my show.

-Mitch Hedberg (RIP)
Mitch was a comedic genius!!!
“I’m sick of following my dreams, man. I’m gonna ask them where they are going and hook up with them later.”

“What happened to the Dufresnes?”
I once saw a wino eating grapes and I said “hey man, you have to wait”
" I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
" I like rice, rice is great when you’re hungry and you want 2,000 of something."
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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by BurkeGrad » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:23 am

In the state of N.C. we have 7 FBS and 7 FCS programs plus several in D11 which means spreading money for athletics across many fan bases. Times have changed with the transfer portal, NIL and the collectives making managing football rosters a 24/7 endeavor. Money makes a bigger difference now in college athletics. App can and will compete in the SBC but expecting domination year to year isn’t going to happen.
For those not renewing season tickets if Clark remains, are you a thick or thin Appalachian supporter or only when the team is winning championships? Will a 4-7 or a 5-6 record diminish or extinguish your continued support? If so, then goodbye because there are others to step up and buy your tickets. Alums and fans attend games to enjoy Boone, the mountains, visiting campus with tailgating and the game day atmosphere. Appalachian and Boone is a special place on an autumn Saturday. Enjoy it, life is short.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Rekdiver » Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:11 pm

BurkeGrad wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:23 am
In the state of N.C. we have 7 FBS and 7 FCS programs plus several in D11 which means spreading money for athletics across many fan bases. Times have changed with the transfer portal, NIL and the collectives making managing football rosters a 24/7 endeavor. Money makes a bigger difference now in college athletics. App can and will compete in the SBC but expecting domination year to year isn’t going to happen.
For those not renewing season tickets if Clark remains, are you a thick or thin Appalachian supporter or only when the team is winning championships? Will a 4-7 or a 5-6 record diminish or extinguish your continued support? If so, then goodbye because there are others to step up and buy your tickets. Alums and fans attend games to enjoy Boone, the mountains, visiting campus with tailgating and the game day atmosphere. Appalachian and Boone is a special place on an autumn Saturday. Enjoy it, life is short.
Being an App supporter is unconditional….

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:44 pm

As a long time investor, I will continue as long as I’m blessed with the resources. But I must say that winning , the anticipation and realization of seeing a really good football team perform, adds a ton to my Gameday experience. And that experience motivated me to dig a little deeper, and deeper , over the years. I know quite a few people that feel the same way.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:57 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:44 pm
As a long time investor, I will continue as long as I’m blessed with the resources. But I must say that winning , the anticipation and realization of seeing a really good football team perform, adds a ton to my Gameday experience. And that experience motivated me to dig a little deeper, and deeper , over the years. I know quite a few people that feel the same way.
Exactly. I don't want to see my money squandered. It is easier to dig deeper when you are winning because you know the resources are being used well. I am not confident that the money we are giving towards football is being used to the best it can be. I watch Indiana and I see a 6-4 talent team that is 10-0. I watch App State and see a 7-2 or 6-3 talent team that is currently 4-5.

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Re: I am with you Coach Clark

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:08 pm

Returns aren’t trending in the direction I was expecting. Or frankly , was sold.

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