Prayers for those injured on Miiler Hill

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

How exactly would seats on the hill prevent a mass rush of people in a celebratory mood? While it’s unfortunate that this happened, I don’t see how this is on the university. They put up a barrier.

They could put up a wall like the east and west stands have but then students are jumping off that. Safer than impalement but not a cure for rushing the field. The thin barrier of plastic on the NEZ was also generally ignored I think but that is at ground level.

Our fans jumped the barriers in 2007 in Chattanooga and that was a bigger drop if memory serves me correctly. There is not much to do to stop something like this beyond ringing the field with officers with clubs and stun guns and I DO NOT want to see that or arrest everyone that is on the field and I would hate that even more than a line of officers.

[WASU 93]

Seems as best I can read online is the worst injuries were broken bones. Facilities didn’t cause the injuries., choices did. Quick recovery to those who were hurt.

Exactly. I hate that people were hurt and there were several instances on the field and near the fencing.

However, grandstands didn't stop the crush in Madison in 1993. The school and security improved facilities and made it possible for a safer rushing of the field the next time at Camp Randall.

Same thing should happen in this instance. Investigate, consult and improve. Since the opposing team has to cross the field, we need to have a plan in place to safely get them off the field as well without any fan/player interaction.

[appdaze]

How exactly would seats on the hill prevent a mass rush of people in a celebratory mood? While it’s unfortunate that this happened, I don’t see how this is on the university. They put up a barrier.

It's not about stopping a celebration. 99% of injuries from rushing courts and fields don't happen in the mob they happen during the rush. It actually is on the university as they willingly allow the usage of a slippery and well-known injury potential location to be used as seating. That is 100% on them, like it or not. Take the university out of the picture and apply slipping and falling on another business's property and breaking your leg. It was your choice to walk where you did, but that business is still probably getting sued for having what could be considered an unsafe foot traffic area. Don't think about it like an App fan; think about it like a lawyer.

As far as preventing the whole situation goes, it will only be a matter of time before governing bodies decide rushing fields has to go when a player on an opposing team somewhere gets seriously injured when fans rush, and that player sues or if a fan viciously attacks a player and kills them or if the player retaliates and kills the fan. It isn't a matter of if but when and where it will happen. While I love that people get a chance to let out their celebratory emotions, everyone has to admit that the whole storming of a field or court is a potentially dangerous situation.

[Saint3333]

People destroy property and want to blame those that put up the boundaries.

We should have adopted English law upon secession.

[WASU 93]

How exactly would seats on the hill prevent a mass rush of people in a celebratory mood? While it’s unfortunate that this happened, I don’t see how this is on the university. They put up a barrier.

It's not about stopping a celebration. 99% of injuries from rushing courts and fields don't happen in the mob they happen during the rush. It actually is on the university as they willingly allow the usage of a slippery and well-known injury potential location to be used as seating. That is 100% on them, like it or not. Take the university out of the picture and apply slipping and falling on another business's property and breaking your leg. It was your choice to walk where you did, but that business is still probably getting sued for having what could be considered an unsafe foot traffic area. Don't think about it like an App fan; think about it like a lawyer.

As far as preventing the whole situation goes, it will only be a matter of time before governing bodies decide rushing fields has to go when a player on an opposing team somewhere gets seriously injured when fans rush, and that player sues or if a fan viciously attacks a player and kills them or if the player retaliates and kills the fan. It isn't a matter of if but when and where it will happen. While I love that people get a chance to let out their celebratory emotions, everyone has to admit that the whole storming of a field or court is a potentially dangerous situation.

For clarity, none of the post game injuries were on the Hill (at least those who stayed down). They were either on the field side of the barrier or on the field itself.
I am 100% in favor of keeping the opposing team separate from the fans. There's no good that's going to come out of that situation.

[HighlandsApp]

People destroy property and want to blame those that put up the boundaries.

We should have adopted English law upon secession.

We did but it's been highly molested

[goapps93]

We're not the only stadium with a grass hill. Wake Forest is no comparison because they do not get too excited. I'm sure Clemson has had some incidents. As far as the visiting team goes, I don't like that they have to cross the field to get to their locker room but even if we had put the visiting locker room in the NEZ facility (which should have been done) they would have been unable to get there yesterday. I'm counting on the school to review, analyze, and make improvements where necessary and able.

[bcoach]

God forbid we ask people to take responsibility for their actions. The only just thing to do anymore is to blame someone or something else. I pray everyone has a full recovery but if you chose to put yourself in a bad position that should be on you, nobody else. Oh no that could never be, it absolutely has to be someone else's fault. So what we need to do is spend more money that we don't have to protect those who are doing what they should not be doing.
Granted there was very little thought put into this whole locker room situation. With that said players should be able to reach their locker room without being molested.

[Cro-Magnon App]

You can’t totally “people proof” anything, no matter how much planning you do or money you spend. You put up signs, make announcements for those that can’t read or do not heed the signs, then hope for the best.
My prayers to those who are hurt.

[appdaze]

[APP93]

How exactly would seats on the hill prevent a mass rush of people in a celebratory mood? While it’s unfortunate that this happened, I don’t see how this is on the university. They put up a barrier.

It's not about stopping a celebration. 99% of injuries from rushing courts and fields don't happen in the mob they happen during the rush. It actually is on the university as they willingly allow the usage of a slippery and well-known injury potential location to be used as seating. That is 100% on them, like it or not. Take the university out of the picture and apply slipping and falling on another business's property and breaking your leg. It was your choice to walk where you did, but that business is still probably getting sued for having what could be considered an unsafe foot traffic area. Don't think about it like an App fan; think about it like a lawyer.

As far as preventing the whole situation goes, it will only be a matter of time before governing bodies decide rushing fields has to go when a player on an opposing team somewhere gets seriously injured when fans rush, and that player sues or if a fan viciously attacks a player and kills them or if the player retaliates and kills the fan. It isn't a matter of if but when and where it will happen. While I love that people get a chance to let out their celebratory emotions, everyone has to admit that the whole storming of a field or court is a potentially dangerous situation.

I don't want to think about this or anything else like a lawyer.

The ticket you purchase gives you access to your section/seat or the hill and allows you to move about freely around the stadium, not the field. If you decide to jump a barrier and rush the field then that risk is on you...taking personel responsibility use to be a thing in this country.

[BambooRdApp]

Been going on for decades in stadiums all around the country. Not sure it will stop anytime soon....

[bigdaddyg]

I've always had a view of society that has really been reinforced over the last few years- you can't legislate away stupidity and 99% of societies problems are caused by the one percenters. Out of about 35,000 people yesterday only about 350 caused the problems. I'm not lumping the entire crowd who stormed the field. That small bunch of idiots who felt the need to push and shove and possibly hurt others probably lives like idiots most of the time. Most of the 99 percenters obey laws and respect property as well as others. You can put up barriers, make announcements and hire security but the 1 percenters are going to do what they do.

[Stonewall]

I hope ,and pray everyone is ok. Decisions have consequences.There is a reason access to the field is prohibited.

[Rekdiver]

I've always had a view of society that has really been reinforced over the last few years- you can't legislate away stupidity and 99% of societies problems are caused by the one percenters. Out of about 35,000 people yesterday only about 350 caused the problems. I'm not lumping the entire crowd who stormed the field. That small bunch of idiots who felt the need to push and shove and possibly hurt others probably lives like idiots most of the time. Most of the 99 percenters obey laws and respect property as well as others. You can put up barriers, make announcements and hire security but the 1 percenters are going to do what they do.

If people dont respect the Capitol where does storming a field rank?

[WataugaMan]

I'd rank it along side of burning down police headquarters and car dealerships.

[Mjohn1988]

Haven’t really read many of these post. Hoping everyone heals up. I love the student enthusiasm but I do fear we end up at some point in time forfeiting a game over the field rush. I don’t see the hill as a problem. Large group of young folks, some alcohol and a mad dash to a celebration, bad stuff can happen. Students could have also been hurt jumping out of the stands. By the way, what a super class act by Chase, helping the ladies make it onto the field safely!!!

[Mjohn1988]

I'd rank it along side of burning down police headquarters and car dealerships.

And crisis pregnancy centers

[WataugaMan]

I'd rank it along side of burning down police headquarters and car dealerships.

And crisis pregnancy centers

And, Catholic churches

[mike87]

2 words. Airplane Slides.

That's what we need next stadium upgrade.