NC FBS Standings -- Who Is On Top?

[hapapp]

Teams and programs are not "scared" to play us. Michigan was not scared to play us 2014, 2013 Montana, 2012 ECU, 2011 VT, FL 2010, ECU 2009, LSU 2008, these teams are not scared of us. Get off your High Horses and stop acting like the very same type of fan I have seen so many of you bash over the years. Some of you are becoming the very thing you hated or liked to hate on.

Here is my suggested options to solve all this.

A. we play all these teams head to head.
B. we join the ACC.
C. we play a full schedule of p5 teams with 3-4 being in the top 20 at some point during the year.
D. we stop trying to compare ourselves to teams that play harder schedules. Be happy that we are as successful as we are in our few years of FBS. Worry more about our 5-10 year future if Satt and company leaves. Focus on establishing ourselves in the FBS world before flopping our privates around claiming we are on par with the top tiers. Stop making comments like "they didn't play anyone" ...who did we play? Georgia state--stomped 27-16 cure bowl. Arkansas State who BEAT us and won our conference? Demolished 48-28 to LA Tech...Georgia Southern who beat bowling green 58-27 who did BG beat? a 3-9 maryland? BG beat the same Ohio team we played....BG won 62-24. We won 31-29.......


We had a great and successful season for a team barely beginning to write its FBS history. Instead of looking outward in jealousy, that many of you won't openly admit you have, lets spend more time looking inward at our own team, campus, school, town (Boone), alumni clubs and see what can be improved to continue this success that will build a strong foundation to help us succeed for decades to come. Do that and some time in the next 20 years we will be looked at as equals, rivals, and if all goes aPPsolutely perfect an invite to one of the top tier conferences in what I see as a Massive shift that I predict will happen in about 15-20 years.

Did you even watch the Cure Bowl? GA State was not stomped. I would agree that we can't use the "who did they play" argument but you can't get into comparing scores of teams who played this team or that team. That certainly can work in the other direction as well.

In the end we had the best record in the state, there is no dispute there. There is no way of knowing who we would beat or who would beat us head to head. Hopefully , someday it will no longer be a matter of speculation.

[TheMoody1]

N-O-T-H-I-N-G thats what tarholes mean to me.

[bcoach]

I just don't understand why people get on here and embarrass us by crying about "they won't play us" with tears streaming down their cheeks. We sound like ECU did years ago when they went to the legislature to get their diapers changed. Wipe the tears away and man up. We are playing much bigger and better programs than we would by playing any of the in state schools.
When all the tears are dry go back and read the post by appdaze and especially D
Our glass is not half empty and is absolutely more than half full. Show the administration that it is not impossible to make us happy because after reading this it would seem that way.

[WVAPPeer]

bcoach, I agree - however there is a reason that UNC has played just about everyone but us - I don't lose any sleep over it at all - the quality programs have no fear in playing APP - other than Michigan #1 we haven't fared very well ---

[bcoach]

bcoach, I agree - however there is a reason that UNC has played just about everyone but us - I don't lose any sleep over it at all - the quality programs have no fear in playing APP - other than Michigan #1 we haven't fared very well ---

Yes a very good point. We don't fair very well against those teams and I would rather play teams closer to our level, not below our level but just closer to. That would mean our in state ACC teams but I just don't see all this crying about it. There are many teams out there on the level of our in state ACC teams. When it come to unc I just have an opinion that I never want to play them. I don't want to have anything to do with them. I have no respect for them and really hope we never play them. They really are the last team in the country we need to validate us. The more separation we put between us and them the better. No need to educate people in other parts of the country that we are part of the same system.

[MtnDevil95]

bcaoch is spot on. We need to move on and forget the CHeaters even exist. Hopefully the NCAA has the cajones to make it so no one will want to play a sanctioned team with no post season for a few years anyway.

The App State football program needs recruiting. Recruit to win, win to recruit.

Win big games against P5 programs like Tennessee and Miami. Most especially Miami and make a splash in a state that produces the fastest high school recruits in the country. I'd like to see us play a Texas team and win in Texas. Could be SMU, could be Houston, but have a good showing in Texas. Head further west a beat a California team. Play where the recruits are coming from and play well. Beating P5 teams gets mentions in the national media, and in the local media where these kids are in high school, and that gets recruits to notice App.

CHeat, Moo-U, EZU, these guys cannot get the top talent out of NC, so what would we gain from beating them, or playing and losing to them? We have to play and beat the teams NC high schoolers are going to play for, and nearly all of them are out of state.

[Appftw]

D. we stop trying to compare ourselves to teams that play harder schedules. Be happy that we are as successful as we are in our few years of FBS. Worry more about our 5-10 year future if Satt and company leaves. Focus on establishing ourselves in the FBS world before flopping our privates around claiming we are on par with the top tiers. Stop making comments like "they didn't play anyone" ...who did we play? Georgia state--stomped 27-16 cure bowl. Arkansas State who BEAT us and won our conference? Demolished 48-28 to LA Tech...Georgia Southern who beat bowling green 58-27 who did BG beat? a 3-9 maryland? BG beat the same Ohio team we played....BG won 62-24. We won 31-29.......

So your reason basically boils down to the transitive property? How scientific of you. Cherry picking that BG score doesn't make any sense considering we mudstomped their new daddy GaSo 31-13. We were not the same team at the end of the season that was steam rolling the entire Sun Belt before Ark State so that doesn't hold any water.

I'm a militantly supportive App State fan and am extremely happy with our program. However, I won't be satisfied until App State is at least where ECU is (as far as fan support and amenities) to be honest, and there is nothing wrong with having goals. I'll compare us with whoever I want and believe that we can beat UNC pretty much every year except this one (which was an anomoly for them). If that bothers you, you need to take a deep breath and get over it.

[HeffnerIV]

I don't think anyone here is dying (or crying) to play them. I think we're saying that they're afraid to because they risk the chance of not being able to ensure a "slaughter" over us. I would much rather play Tenn or Miami.


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