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Next year’s depth chart..take a stab

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Re: Next year’s depth chart..take a stab

Unread post by AppStateNews » Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:35 am

If you ask the current WRs, the "young guns" are better than any other corps we've had.....
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We will most likely dive into the portal and grab another WR with some experience as well. I like the guys we have coming back and if we can add to it we will be fine.
I think that we could. Keep in mind, as of today, we have to be back to 85 scholarships total. So depending on who comes back for Super Senior years, and space provides, we may have more pressing need. CB and ILB being a couple on defense, and TE on offense.

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am

Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.

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appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am
Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.
What do you do with Watts?

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:35 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am
Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.
What do you do with Watts?
Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.

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Re: Next year’s depth chart..take a stab

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:40 am

appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:35 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am
Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.
What do you do with Watts?
Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.
What do you do with Washington?

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:41 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:40 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:35 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am
Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.
What do you do with Watts?
Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.
What do you do with Washington?
LOL. He retires.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:46 am

appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:41 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:40 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:35 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:27 am
Depth chart looks pretty good. I would really like to see us hire an experienced OL coach, and move Cardwell to TE coach.
What do you do with Watts?
Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.
What do you do with Washington?
LOL. He retires.
Ok. Just asking? I don’t disagree with your original thought. But all of those questions and more have to get answered as part of the solution to yours. I’m not saying that we leave Cardwell there because we can’t get anyone else, but who can you get that can come in and teach our scheme? My first thought is Acitelli, but can he teach the zone blocking scheme? I don’t know the answer to that.

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:47 am

Or he moves to an analyst role

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:50 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:46 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:41 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:40 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:35 am


What do you do with Watts?
Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.
What do you do with Washington?
LOL. He retires.
Ok. Just asking? I don’t disagree with your original thought. But all of those questions and more have to get answered as part of the solution to yours. I’m not saying that we leave Cardwell there because we can’t get anyone else, but who can you get that can come in and teach our scheme? My first thought is Acitelli, but can he teach the zone blocking scheme? I don’t know the answer to that.
Yeah, I realize it's a domino effect that has to be figured out. I just think something is off with our o-line. Last year, we had a very experienced and talented O line, yet we still struggled controlling the LOS. Same thing this year.

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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:51 am

As others have said, maybe it's a size issue, or maybe defenses have figured out how to defend the zone blocking scheme. It just seems to me that our o line has been noticeably less effective for the past two seasons.

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:53 am

appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:50 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:46 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:41 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:40 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:39 am


Personally, I'd like to see Watts move back to WR coach.
What do you do with Washington?
LOL. He retires.
Ok. Just asking? I don’t disagree with your original thought. But all of those questions and more have to get answered as part of the solution to yours. I’m not saying that we leave Cardwell there because we can’t get anyone else, but who can you get that can come in and teach our scheme? My first thought is Acitelli, but can he teach the zone blocking scheme? I don’t know the answer to that.
Yeah, I realize it's a domino effect that has to be figured out. I just think something is off with our o-line. Last year, we had a very experienced and talented O line, yet we still struggled controlling the LOS. Same thing this year.
In terms of your domino effect. Last years issues were more TE related which affected the OL. This year is probably more of new pieces and old pieces in new places than anything else.

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appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:51 am
As others have said, maybe it's a size issue, or maybe defenses have figured out how to defend the zone blocking scheme. It just seems to me that our o line has been noticeably less effective for the past two seasons.
Looking at numbers that can be affected by line play

2020. 2021 2018. 2019
1st downs. 281. 292. 131. 151
Rush Yrd. 3179. 2624. 3318. 3534. We threw more this year
Avg. 5.8. 4.7. 5.8. 5.4
Avg per. 264. 188. 240. 231. Threw more
TDS. 28. 25. 35 31
Sacks allowed 21. 13. 18. 18
Rush att. 545. 524. 540. 599
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Unread post by appst1992 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:04 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:51 am
As others have said, maybe it's a size issue, or maybe defenses have figured out how to defend the zone blocking scheme. It just seems to me that our o line has been noticeably less effective for the past two seasons.
Looking at numbers that can be affected by line play

2020. 2021
1st downs. 281. 292
Rush Yrd. 3179. 2624. We threw more this year
Avg. 5.8. 4.7
Avg per. 264. 188. Threw more
TDS. 28. 25
Sacks allowed 21. 13
Would like to see the 2018 and 2019 numbers to compare

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Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:19 am

appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:04 am
appst1992 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:51 am
As others have said, maybe it's a size issue, or maybe defenses have figured out how to defend the zone blocking scheme. It just seems to me that our o line has been noticeably less effective for the past two seasons.
Looking at numbers that can be affected by line play

2020. 2021
1st downs. 281. 292
Rush Yrd. 3179. 2624. We threw more this year
Avg. 5.8. 4.7
Avg per. 264. 188. Threw more
TDS. 28. 25
Sacks allowed 21. 13
Would like to see the 2018 and 2019 numbers to compare
Added them above.

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Thomas Hennigan is an App all-time great.He will be very very difficult to replace.
I'd say, unlikely if not impossible to replace. We've had a lot of very good receivers but none with his hands paired with his determination and ice-cold blood in his veins; he NEVER looked rattled to me. From day one, I thought we were incredibly lucky to have gotten him. I'm sure there are plenty of folks down in Chapel Hill who wonder how he was not offered...never mind his speed; just watch his HS film.

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Navy Shuler entered the transfer portal today.

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Navy Shuler entered the transfer portal today.
From what it sounds like its not too unexpected. It still leaves 4 in the QB room is you still count Goodman.
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Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:48 am
ASU3432Mi wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:19 am
Navy Shuler entered the transfer portal today.
From what it sounds like its not too unexpected. It still leaves 4 in the QB room is you still count Stroman.
Do you mean Goodman? Stroman is a WR.

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AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:55 am
Appmountaineers19 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:48 am
ASU3432Mi wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:19 am
Navy Shuler entered the transfer portal today.
From what it sounds like its not too unexpected. It still leaves 4 in the QB room is you still count Stroman.
Do you mean Goodman? Stroganoff is a WR.
Yes. I edited it. Thxs

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