My record will be gone

[oldfart]

I've never been able to make a GaSo game in Statesboro until this year. I bought my tickets with my regular tickets. Please know that I have had an extreme distate for GaSo since I played water polo against them in college.

I will be at that game on the 3rd. I will be wearing my black and gold with as much pride as always.

Even if we lost all of our games this year, I'd still support those guys on the field. They are all full-time students and full-time athletes. None of us knows what each one deals with off the field during the week - an ill parent? a huge paper? a little brother who's not making good choices?

Watch the video board the next time they introduce the players and count how many are freshmen and sophomores - 18 and 19 year olds. Now try and remember what it was like to be 18 or 19. Now try and imagine a 250 pound guy running at you intent on knocking you senseless.

Yes, I'll be in Statesboro this year. Go App!

Water Polo??? Dude, I don't believe I'd have told that..

Great post BTW, and you should know that GSU has exhibited the ability all season to play down to the level of their competition. Fortunately we've been "lucky" to come out on the winning end. This year we are struggling offensively and in the kicking game. our defense is a little better than last year but very susceptible to a fast team-which yall have. You may not like GSU or Statesboro or whatever, but I believe this will be one heckuva game and NO ONE should miss it,especially if you already have tickets. Most of us old folks will shoot the sheet, will be nice, and give you a cold beer. The students may be another story but come on down and hang out. I hate App as bad as anyone(I was there for the Holiday on Ice in '87-still haven't put that one out of my head) but we're the top 2 schools in the SoCon that don't need to be in the SoCon. So get on down here and tell'em OF sent ya. Safe travels my hillbilly goathumpers

[appfanz]

Ah, yes; the '87 game. It was a bit nippy that day!

[asu66]

Ah, yes; the '87 game. It was a bit nippy that day!

That's the coldest I've ever been in my life; but I'll betcha I wasn't as cold as ol' Erk down on the sideline in his signature short-sleeve t-shirt. He actually wimped out and put on a jacket for the second half.

[oldfart]

Yeah the option doesn't work on ice. QB Raymond Gross had all day to run on several plays only to slip down EVERY time he made his cut upfield. Thanks for covering the field the night before you jack legs. 1st playoff loss for GSU and first shutout.

[asu66]

Yeah the option doesn't work on ice. QB Raymond Gross had all day to run on several plays only to slip down EVERY time he made his cut upfield. Thanks for covering the field the night before you jack legs. 1st playoff loss for GSU and first shutout.

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Hey both teams played on the same surface! We actually brought in a Zamboni just to help your team! We're the good guys!

[JCline0429]

I've never been able to make a GaSo game in Statesboro until this year. I bought my tickets with my regular tickets. Please know that I have had an extreme distate for GaSo since I played water polo against them in college.

I will be at that game on the 3rd. I will be wearing my black and gold with as much pride as always.

Even if we lost all of our games this year, I'd still support those guys on the field. They are all full-time students and full-time athletes. None of us knows what each one deals with off the field during the week - an ill parent? a huge paper? a little brother who's not making good choices?

Watch the video board the next time they introduce the players and count how many are freshmen and sophomores - 18 and 19 year olds. Now try and remember what it was like to be 18 or 19. Now try and imagine a 250 pound guy running at you intent on knocking you senseless.

Yes, I'll be in Statesboro this year. Go App!

Water Polo??? Dude, I don't believe I'd have told that..

Great post BTW, and you should know that GSU has exhibited the ability all season to play down to the level of their competition. Fortunately we've been "lucky" to come out on the winning end. This year we are struggling offensively and in the kicking game. our defense is a little better than last year but very susceptible to a fast team-which yall have. You may not like GSU or Statesboro or whatever, but I believe this will be one heckuva game and NO ONE should miss it,especially if you already have tickets. Most of us old folks will shoot the sheet, will be nice, and give you a cold beer. The students may be another story but come on down and hang out. I hate App as bad as anyone(I was there for the Holiday on Ice in '87-still haven't put that one out of my head) but we're the top 2 schools in the SoCon that don't need to be in the SoCon. So get on down here and tell'em OF sent ya. Safe travels my hillbilly goathumpers

Since when is Daphne a dude?

[oldfart]

I've never been able to make a GaSo game in Statesboro until this year. I bought my tickets with my regular tickets. Please know that I have had an extreme distate for GaSo since I played water polo against them in college.

I will be at that game on the 3rd. I will be wearing my black and gold with as much pride as always.

Even if we lost all of our games this year, I'd still support those guys on the field. They are all full-time students and full-time athletes. None of us knows what each one deals with off the field during the week - an ill parent? a huge paper? a little brother who's not making good choices?

Watch the video board the next time they introduce the players and count how many are freshmen and sophomores - 18 and 19 year olds. Now try and remember what it was like to be 18 or 19. Now try and imagine a 250 pound guy running at you intent on knocking you senseless.

Yes, I'll be in Statesboro this year. Go App!

Water Polo??? Dude, I don't believe I'd have told that..

Great post BTW, and you should know that GSU has exhibited the ability all season to play down to the level of their competition. Fortunately we've been "lucky" to come out on the winning end. This year we are struggling offensively and in the kicking game. our defense is a little better than last year but very susceptible to a fast team-which yall have. You may not like GSU or Statesboro or whatever, but I believe this will be one heckuva game and NO ONE should miss it,especially if you already have tickets. Most of us old folks will shoot the sheet, will be nice, and give you a cold beer. The students may be another story but come on down and hang out. I hate App as bad as anyone(I was there for the Holiday on Ice in '87-still haven't put that one out of my head) but we're the top 2 schools in the SoCon that don't need to be in the SoCon. So get on down here and tell'em OF sent ya. Safe travels my hillbilly goathumpers

Since when is Daphne a dude?

Sorry, just assumed since it is an APP STATE poster. My apologies Ms. Daphne.

[Kgfish]

"You and Norton may have a valid point if we were 2-9 last year and 1-7 this year...we made the playoffs last year and are in contention to do so again this year, let's slow down on the book of Revelation coming true...and as far as returning tickets, this is just plain dumb IMO, "I'll show you, I'll throw away my own money!"..Coach Moore is one of the most postive people I know (and I've spent time with him personally). The truth is that most positive people have zero time for negative nancys"

With the expectations of this program 7-4 might as well be 2-9. Simply making the playoffs isn't good enough for a fan base demanding to contend for the national championship every year. They have provided the resources necessary to compete for the championship on a regular basis and it is foolish to think they will be satisfied with anything less. Welcome to life at the top.

As a matter of clarity and to satisfy my own curosity, I did a little research on Mr Norton. Do you know that he and and his wife only gives the paltry sum of $5000 annually to Yosef! With such feable support of the program how dare he expect more from it! Upon further examination I discovered the Norton's gave at the $10,000 level the previous three years. Ah ha! The the smoking gun! Obviously cutting his donation in half is proof positive of Mr Norton's vendetta against Coach Moore as claimed by Mr JCline.

Some of you guys are nuts!

You're absolutely correct with that last statement. It is crazy to get on a message board behind an anonymous screen name and waste time denigrating someone. Don't you have anything better to do?

I think everyone on this board would agree that the past few years have been lackluster by ASU's standards. But, most reasonable people would also agree that sometimes teams have down years. I just think, given history of work, that it's ridiculous to criticize coach the way people do on this board. Accurate criticism is valid, but a lot of people make it sound like we're Memphis or WCU. We're not, we've never been like that under JM, and won't be. Believe it or not, the sky is not falling, the sun will come up tomorrow, and life will go on. You may be disappointed to learn that JM is still employed, but that's just sad for you.

Guess you do not "hide behind" ASU Mountaineer, or is that your given name? Not a troll, ASU grad & Yosef Club memeber way before 2005 when most of you bandwagon fans jumped onboard.

[Kgfish]

The fact that people think you can simply throw money / resources at a program and then have a right to expect them to "contend for a national championship" is completely screwed up. If this is how it actually worked there are a lot of schools out there who are falling short. Michigan, Georgia, Ohio State, South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Miami, Florida State (the list goes on for a very long time) would all have a right to contend for the national championship EVERY year. Most of those schools have been absent from the title hunt for a while (or at least longer than App has been). Yes, the having the resources is a component, but NO TEAM contends every year....at any level.

Yes, App fans have a right to expect a high standard from our coaches. I believe we get that. Some of the staff wasn't meeting that standard, and changes have been made. Coach Moore doesn't have a magic wand. Making adjustments in areas like "discipline" and "chemistry" is not like flipping a switch. Chemistry builds over time. The new coaches are moving in the right direction....or so it seems to this fan.

I'm disappointed in the Citadel and Wofford games this year...just like everyone else. Those games are behind us, but we still have a shot at the playoffs. I'll close the book on this team when the season is over and then I'll start focusing on the great expectations for the 2013 team.

There is a difference between making critical observations and just plain whining. Maybe folks should consider which one they are doing.

Your comarisons are not valid. The BCS programs you referenced have mostly the same resources which makes attaining national championships much more difficult. That is not the case in FCS where there are perhaps a half dozen programs with close to the same resources of ASU. Concerning your chemistry and discipline comment. The question you need to ask is is how did we get to the point where half the staff had to be fired by the AD and why hasn't the discipline issue been handled as Coach Moore said he was going to do dozens of times before. The Wofford Haloween game, the Richmond playoff game in Boone, the Chattanooga game last year and the Samford game this year is just a few examples. It is my experience the difference between "making critical observations and just plain whining" is in the eye of the beholder.

[Kgfish]

Mr Norton. most of the $50 wonders on here won't give as much in their lifetime as you did in one year. I am fascinated how those who give so little seem to beat their drum the loudest. Like those liberals who continually bust on the wealthy who only fund most of the companies in the country through their investments and hire thousands working for small businesses. Haters will hate.

Actually they are nothing a like. Last time I checked there were plenty of filthy rich liberals who invest in businesses as well. There are also plenty of poor conservatives who rage and complain about everything. It goes both ways. Please take your political blabbering to another board. This is a sports board. I'm sure Fox News or Rush Limbaugh has a board somewhere.quote]

That's the best you've got? Bashing Limbaugh and Fox News. Way too easy to get you lib's going. Mr Norton may be a liberal himself? I'm just glad he gives the way he does and cares enough to share his views. It is his right to do so isn't it? Or do you think he has no business doing so?

[JCline0429]

The fact that people think you can simply throw money / resources at a program and then have a right to expect them to "contend for a national championship" is completely screwed up. If this is how it actually worked there are a lot of schools out there who are falling short. Michigan, Georgia, Ohio State, South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Miami, Florida State (the list goes on for a very long time) would all have a right to contend for the national championship EVERY year. Most of those schools have been absent from the title hunt for a while (or at least longer than App has been). Yes, the having the resources is a component, but NO TEAM contends every year....at any level.

Yes, App fans have a right to expect a high standard from our coaches. I believe we get that. Some of the staff wasn't meeting that standard, and changes have been made. Coach Moore doesn't have a magic wand. Making adjustments in areas like "discipline" and "chemistry" is not like flipping a switch. Chemistry builds over time. The new coaches are moving in the right direction....or so it seems to this fan.

I'm disappointed in the Citadel and Wofford games this year...just like everyone else. Those games are behind us, but we still have a shot at the playoffs. I'll close the book on this team when the season is over and then I'll start focusing on the great expectations for the 2013 team.

There is a difference between making critical observations and just plain whining. Maybe folks should consider which one they are doing.

Your comarisons are not valid. The BCS programs you referenced have mostly the same resources which makes attaining national championships much more difficult. That is not the case in FCS where there are perhaps a half dozen programs with close to the same resources of ASU. Concerning your chemistry and discipline comment. The question you need to ask is is how did we get to the point where half the staff had to be fired by the AD and why hasn't the discipline issue been handled as Coach Moore said he was going to do dozens of times before. The Wofford Haloween game, the Richmond playoff game in Boone, the Chattanooga game last year and the Samford game this year is just a few examples. It is my experience the difference between "making critical observations and just plain whining" is in the eye of the beholder.

Name the half of the staff fired by CC besides Moore, Jr. FTR, I wouldn't have fired Jr myself, I would have deferred to Charlie. Harmony in the family would trump my position as head coach. Jerry knew he had to be fired and was not a coward for not doing so. IMOp.

[PhillyApp1]

I agree jcline but thats why hiring family is a slippery slope and why you have to have family hires live up to a higher standard....it causes sad situations....i feel for the whole Moore family and wish them much happier years in the future.

[ASUMountaineer]

"You and Norton may have a valid point if we were 2-9 last year and 1-7 this year...we made the playoffs last year and are in contention to do so again this year, let's slow down on the book of Revelation coming true...and as far as returning tickets, this is just plain dumb IMO, "I'll show you, I'll throw away my own money!"..Coach Moore is one of the most postive people I know (and I've spent time with him personally). The truth is that most positive people have zero time for negative nancys"

With the expectations of this program 7-4 might as well be 2-9. Simply making the playoffs isn't good enough for a fan base demanding to contend for the national championship every year. They have provided the resources necessary to compete for the championship on a regular basis and it is foolish to think they will be satisfied with anything less. Welcome to life at the top.

As a matter of clarity and to satisfy my own curosity, I did a little research on Mr Norton. Do you know that he and and his wife only gives the paltry sum of $5000 annually to Yosef! With such feable support of the program how dare he expect more from it! Upon further examination I discovered the Norton's gave at the $10,000 level the previous three years. Ah ha! The the smoking gun! Obviously cutting his donation in half is proof positive of Mr Norton's vendetta against Coach Moore as claimed by Mr JCline.

Some of you guys are nuts!

You're absolutely correct with that last statement. It is crazy to get on a message board behind an anonymous screen name and waste time denigrating someone. Don't you have anything better to do?

I think everyone on this board would agree that the past few years have been lackluster by ASU's standards. But, most reasonable people would also agree that sometimes teams have down years. I just think, given history of work, that it's ridiculous to criticize coach the way people do on this board. Accurate criticism is valid, but a lot of people make it sound like we're Memphis or WCU. We're not, we've never been like that under JM, and won't be. Believe it or not, the sky is not falling, the sun will come up tomorrow, and life will go on. You may be disappointed to learn that JM is still employed, but that's just sad for you.

Guess you do not "hide behind" ASU Mountaineer, or is that your given name? Not a troll, ASU grad & Yosef Club memeber way before 2005 when most of you bandwagon fans jumped onboard.

I never said that I do not hide behind my screen name. You clearly missed the point that you are hiding behind your screen name while publicly questioning someone's character anonymously (I am not). That's actually quite a simple concept to understand that any ASU grad should be able to grasp.

BTW, I'm an ASU grad and have been a Yosef Club member for years too (I just don't feel the need to brag about my donations throughout the years on the MMB). So, unfortunately, your weak "bandwagon" smack doesn't apply. Nice try though...

As I said, keep trollin'.

[WVAPPeer]

"Guess you do not "hide behind" ASU Mountaineer, or is that your given name? Not a troll, ASU grad & Yosef Club memeber way before 2005 when most of you bandwagon fans jumped onboard."

kgfish - Just so you'll know, ASUMountaineer is a stand-up guy and a loyal APP fan AND the unofficial Vice President of the MMB ---

[bcoach]

There is only one thing in the world that I will never do again to support our team.

[AppinVA]

There is only one thing in the world that I will never do again to support our team.

Streaking across the field at the end of the first quarter?

[bcoach]

ok two things

No actually I will never go back to the stink

[Gonzo]

I'm a little disturbed by the lack of interest in this year's Stink game. I'll be there. I've been chatting with Stink fans on their board and AGS.

Where's the interest from our end? Why is there no Beat the Stink Thread? There's little activity here and even less on Appfan. What's the deal? One year we have the potential to end up 7-4 and every bit of interest drops off?

This fan base is scaring me. I knew it was spoiled one, but geez. Get it together.

[appdaze]

Mr Norton. most of the $50 wonders on here won't give as much in their lifetime as you did in one year. I am fascinated how those who give so little seem to beat their drum the loudest. Like those liberals who continually bust on the wealthy who only fund most of the companies in the country through their investments and hire thousands working for small businesses. Haters will hate.

Actually they are nothing a like. Last time I checked there were plenty of filthy rich liberals who invest in businesses as well. There are also plenty of poor conservatives who rage and complain about everything. It goes both ways. Please take your political blabbering to another board. This is a sports board. I'm sure Fox News or Rush Limbaugh has a board somewhere.quote]

That's the best you've got? Bashing Limbaugh and Fox News. Way too easy to get you lib's going. Mr Norton may be a liberal himself? I'm just glad he gives the way he does and cares enough to share his views. It is his right to do so isn't it? Or do you think he has no business doing so?

--"Way too easy to get you lib's going." Sorry skippy I'm not a liberal.
--"That's the best you've got?" Thats all I needed.
How about you just leave the politics out of the football folder.
I have no problem with Norton talking about football and his donations in the football folder.

[asumike83]

Your comarisons are not valid. The BCS programs you referenced have mostly the same resources which makes attaining national championships much more difficult. That is not the case in FCS where there are perhaps a half dozen programs with close to the same resources of ASU.

In 2011, the ASU Athletic Department generated $17.75M in total revenue.

James Madison, Delaware, Old Dominion, William & Mary, Towson, Coastal Carolina, North Dakota, Southern Illinois, Montana and Montana State all generated more revenue than that and in many cases, a LOT more. Programs like Northern Iowa, Illinois State, Stephen F. Austin and North Dakota State are all right in our ballpark as well.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/c ... 54955804/1

We should not be satisfied to stay where we are but there are many FCS programs with similar or greater resources than us, many of which are nowhere near as successful.