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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:54 am

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AppState89 wrote:Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
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roachgone wrote:They didn't fumble because they didn't have to pitch. QB beat us by himself. And BTW this deal of we are young is getting old. I know we are young but we have been hearing we have a young team for 4 or 5 yrs. now. ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE A MATURE TEAM??
Keeping them out of jail would help. :(
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Unread post by AppState2014 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:48 am

NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
AppState89 wrote:Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
We are getting better in some areas and like someone else mentioned, Georgia Southern played their best game of the year. They out coached us and did a better job on limiting mistakes.

I'm just saying that as the year keeps going, those who were hoping for others are going to have that fuel and if we don't win 6 or more games next year, a change is likely coming. You have to remember, the 1-year extension was done by Cobb. With a new AD they are going to have pressure both internally and externally to make a move if we aren't winning. I'm pulling for Scott.

Looking at the rest of our schedule, Troy and Idaho are very bad. We should at least beat Liberty, Troy, Idaho, and Georgia State. We should end with 5 wins, and I expected 4 or 5. That would put us on pace for 6-8 wins next year, which is a good improvement. The good news for Scott is that we will have the talent to win 7 or 8 in 2015. I think in the end Scott will return in 2016 in good shape because he should win 5 games this year and win 7 or 8 next year, with a 3-year starting QB in 2016. It just so happens that if we win 3 this year and then only win 3 or 4 in 2015 that I don't see any way we can justify bringing Scott back. If that happens, then I will be proven wrong and if we have less than 13 wins in 3 years I don't see how any of us can not want change.

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Unread post by manonabuffalo » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:53 am

If we lose the what has been coined the Fighting Falwells, I don't know if we can recover perception and season wise.

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Unread post by AppState89 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:28 am

AppState2014 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
AppState89 wrote:Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
We are getting better in some areas and like someone else mentioned, Georgia Southern played their best game of the year. They out coached us and did a better job on limiting mistakes.

I'm just saying that as the year keeps going, those who were hoping for others are going to have that fuel and if we don't win 6 or more games next year, a change is likely coming. You have to remember, the 1-year extension was done by Cobb. With a new AD they are going to have pressure both internally and externally to make a move if we aren't winning. I'm pulling for Scott.

Looking at the rest of our schedule, Troy and Idaho are very bad. We should at least beat Liberty, Troy, Idaho, and Georgia State. We should end with 5 wins, and I expected 4 or 5. That would put us on pace for 6-8 wins next year, which is a good improvement. The good news for Scott is that we will have the talent to win 7 or 8 in 2015. I think in the end Scott will return in 2016 in good shape because he should win 5 games this year and win 7 or 8 next year, with a 3-year starting QB in 2016. It just so happens that if we win 3 this year and then only win 3 or 4 in 2015 that I don't see any way we can justify bringing Scott back. If that happens, then I will be proven wrong and if we have less than 13 wins in 3 years I don't see how any of us can not want change.
I have to agree with you here. 2016 will be the year that we will know where Satt will take this program. I think he will be here for a long time.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:50 am

roachgone wrote:They didn't fumble because they didn't have to pitch. QB beat us by himself. And BTW this deal of we are young is getting old. I know we are young but we have been hearing we have a young team for 4 or 5 yrs. now. ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE A MATURE TEAM??
Roach I don't know about the future but look at the current 2 deep and the list of red-shirts and explain how we are not "young" right now? ---
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Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:44 pm

I'm not sure if I want Satterfield calling plays anymore. He admitted early last year the change from the press box to the field was bigger than he thought, but in our three losses this year, we've started the game terribly on offense.

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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:04 pm

I really don't think play calling is a problem.

Seems to me the right plays are getting called, we are just not executing them in the place it matters most and that is in the red zone.

Penalties aside, in the Southern Miss game and the Georgia Southern game, if we had been able to execute in the red zone, we wouldn't be having all these conversations.

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Unread post by hapapp » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:42 pm

We're constantly playing from behind. I would like to see us take the ball first if we win the toss. In the GSU game we went three and out the first three series. To start the second half we threw a pass to the TE for a big gain. That play caught GSU off guard because it was bit unpredictable. I would like to see a bit more creativity like that call.

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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:31 pm

AppState2014 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
AppState89 wrote:Positive - 73 fresh and soph on the team
Negative - 73 fresh and soph on the team

What do I mean?

Positive - We have a young team and we will be good as they get more playing time

Negative - We have a young team and they will make mistakes, the future looks bright.

Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
We are getting better in some areas and like someone else mentioned, Georgia Southern played their best game of the year. They out coached us and did a better job on limiting mistakes.

I'm just saying that as the year keeps going, those who were hoping for others are going to have that fuel and if we don't win 6 or more games next year, a change is likely coming. You have to remember, the 1-year extension was done by Cobb. With a new AD they are going to have pressure both internally and externally to make a move if we aren't winning. I'm pulling for Scott.

Looking at the rest of our schedule, Troy and Idaho are very bad. We should at least beat Liberty, Troy, Idaho, and Georgia State. We should end with 5 wins, and I expected 4 or 5. That would put us on pace for 6-8 wins next year, which is a good improvement. The good news for Scott is that we will have the talent to win 7 or 8 in 2015. I think in the end Scott will return in 2016 in good shape because he should win 5 games this year and win 7 or 8 next year, with a 3-year starting QB in 2016. It just so happens that if we win 3 this year and then only win 3 or 4 in 2015 that I don't see any way we can justify bringing Scott back. If that happens, then I will be proven wrong and if we have less than 13 wins in 3 years I don't see how any of us can not want change.
Whatever happens barring him scr-----g a cheerleader, he will be here as long as his present contract allows.
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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:33 pm

hapapp wrote:We're constantly playing from behind. I would like to see us take the ball first if we win the toss. In the GSU game we went three and out the first three series. To start the second half we threw a pass to the TE for a big gain. That play caught GSU off guard because it was bit unpredictable. I would like to see a bit more creativity like that call.

Among coaches at all levels it comes out pretty much a wash as the election to kick or receive after the toss.
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hapapp wrote:We're constantly playing from behind. I would like to see us take the ball first if we win the toss. In the GSU game we went three and out the first three series. To start the second half we threw a pass to the TE for a big gain. That play caught GSU off guard because it was bit unpredictable. I would like to see a bit more creativity like that call.
"To start the second half we threw a pass to the TE for a big gain."

That most likely happened because the staff spotted that weakness during the first half and adjusted accordingly. Don't you agree?
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T-Dog wrote:I'm not sure if I want Satterfield calling plays anymore. He admitted early last year the change from the press box to the field was bigger than he thought, but in our three losses this year, we've started the game terribly on offense.
I'd wager that most of us knew that in advance of him experiencing it. There's a h3ll of a lot of difference in being a great assistant coach and taking charge as a head coach. The learning curve takes most coaches and fans by surprise.
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Unread post by AppState2014 » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:50 pm

NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
We are getting better in some areas and like someone else mentioned, Georgia Southern played their best game of the year. They out coached us and did a better job on limiting mistakes.

I'm just saying that as the year keeps going, those who were hoping for others are going to have that fuel and if we don't win 6 or more games next year, a change is likely coming. You have to remember, the 1-year extension was done by Cobb. With a new AD they are going to have pressure both internally and externally to make a move if we aren't winning. I'm pulling for Scott.

Looking at the rest of our schedule, Troy and Idaho are very bad. We should at least beat Liberty, Troy, Idaho, and Georgia State. We should end with 5 wins, and I expected 4 or 5. That would put us on pace for 6-8 wins next year, which is a good improvement. The good news for Scott is that we will have the talent to win 7 or 8 in 2015. I think in the end Scott will return in 2016 in good shape because he should win 5 games this year and win 7 or 8 next year, with a 3-year starting QB in 2016. It just so happens that if we win 3 this year and then only win 3 or 4 in 2015 that I don't see any way we can justify bringing Scott back. If that happens, then I will be proven wrong and if we have less than 13 wins in 3 years I don't see how any of us can not want change.[/quote]

Whatever happens barring him scr-----g a cheerleader, he will be here as long as his present contract allows.[/quote]

His contract was only adjusted due to stipulations on original one that he gets a bump when we move to FBS. I don't know why it was just now reported because the bump went into effect already.

If he has a losing season next year, he will not be here in 2016 for sure. If the team wins a few more games this year and he wins 6 or more next year, then he will be retained. You are acting like because he has a 4 or 5 year deal that he can't get fired early? The contract is not fully guaranteed. I'm hoping he does well enough to keep his job but if he doesn't win then I will be all for making a change, and any good AD will make a change after 2015 if we aren't showing vast improvement. I'm not sure what the exact win number has to be but there is no way it can be 3 or 4 again. Too many big money donors and media will be calling for a change.

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AppState2014 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppState2014 wrote:
Go Apps!!!!!
We also have an inexperienced HC. That, to me, is a big factor. IMO, the A&T and CSU losses last year were a direct result of those teams having experienced HC's and us having an inexperienced HC. Even though Fritz is in his first year at GSU, not only did he inherit an experienced team, he has years of experience as a HC at many levels with success. That's a good formula. I have faith that we can get there, but I don't have faith in a very vocal bunch of our fans that are inpatient.
It's why many on this board were hoping for a different choice by Cobb. Nobody hates Satterfield and we all want him to do well but most folks who were against him were solely because he lacked experience. That's why Satterfield must win next year or he is gone. H

Hopefully Satterfield gets it turned around because while I want him to do well, I, nor anyone else, don't want to see 4 losing seasons in a row. We have never had back to back losing seasons that I know of. Satterfield is going to break records this year and not in a good way.
As to the possibility of Satterfield being gone next year, that is unlikely since he just got a new one year extension.
We are getting better in some areas and like someone else mentioned, Georgia Southern played their best game of the year. They out coached us and did a better job on limiting mistakes.

I'm just saying that as the year keeps going, those who were hoping for others are going to have that fuel and if we don't win 6 or more games next year, a change is likely coming. You have to remember, the 1-year extension was done by Cobb. With a new AD they are going to have pressure both internally and externally to make a move if we aren't winning. I'm pulling for Scott.

Looking at the rest of our schedule, Troy and Idaho are very bad. We should at least beat Liberty, Troy, Idaho, and Georgia State. We should end with 5 wins, and I expected 4 or 5. That would put us on pace for 6-8 wins next year, which is a good improvement. The good news for Scott is that we will have the talent to win 7 or 8 in 2015. I think in the end Scott will return in 2016 in good shape because he should win 5 games this year and win 7 or 8 next year, with a 3-year starting QB in 2016. It just so happens that if we win 3 this year and then only win 3 or 4 in 2015 that I don't see any way we can justify bringing Scott back. If that happens, then I will be proven wrong and if we have less than 13 wins in 3 years I don't see how any of us can not want change.
Whatever happens barring him scr-----g a cheerleader, he will be here as long as his present contract allows.[/quote]

His contract was only adjusted due to stipulations on original one that he gets a bump when we move to FBS. I don't know why it was just now reported because the bump went into effect already.

If he has a losing season next year, he will not be here in 2016 for sure. If the team wins a few more games this year and he wins 6 or more next year, then he will be retained. You are acting like because he has a 4 or 5 year deal that he can't get fired early? The contract is not fully guaranteed. I'm hoping he does well enough to keep his job but if he doesn't win then I will be all for making a change, and any good AD will make a change after 2015 if we aren't showing vast improvement. I'm not sure what the exact win number has to be but there is no way it can be 3 or 4 again. Too many big money donors and media will be calling for a change.[/quote]

No, I'm not pretending he can't be fired early, but you have to consider that we seemed to barely afford his salary in the first place much the less his plus his replacement's, and 2, look how long we let Capel flush us down the toilet. 4 freaking years.
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Why in Hell are some of you talking about 2016??? - PLEASE give the firing of Coach Satterfield a rest!!! --- PLEASE !!!
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WVAPPeer wrote:Why in Hell are some of you talking about 2016??? - PLEASE give the firing of Coach Satterfield a rest!!! --- PLEASE !!!
Yep. With experience and our patience he has the potential to be the coach we will beg to stay someday. He just needs a bit more OJT.

This has always been the forum for MMB'ers wanting to hire and fire people. That's not going to change.
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Yep. With experience and our patience he has the potential to be the coach we will beg to stay someday. He just needs a bit more OJT.

This has always been the forum for MMB'ers wanting to hire and fire people. That's not going to change.
Don't forget always calling for a QB change.

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WVAPPeer wrote:Why in Hell are some of you talking about 2016??? - PLEASE give the firing of Coach Satterfield a rest!!! --- PLEASE !!!
Yep. With experience and our patience he has the potential to be the coach we will beg to stay someday. He just needs a bit more OJT.

This has always been the forum for MMB'ers wanting to hire and fire people. That's not going to change.
Don't forget always calling for a QB change.

Yep every year. It may have been you who once said on here that the back up QB was often the most popular player on the team.
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AppSt94 wrote:
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WVAPPeer wrote:Why in Hell are some of you talking about 2016??? - PLEASE give the firing of Coach Satterfield a rest!!! --- PLEASE !!!
Yep. With experience and our patience he has the potential to be the coach we will beg to stay someday. He just needs a bit more OJT.

This has always been the forum for MMB'ers wanting to hire and fire people. That's not going to change.
Don't forget always calling for a QB change.
Calling for the QB one is funny because this year folks were calling for it and it happened. We all knew it was a matter of time before Lamb won the job. I think Lamb starting is going to prove to be the best thing for us come 2015 and 2016.

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