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Home and Home vs Wyoming

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Goapps15 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:16 pm

I think this is a great opportunity for Appalachian. Wyoming has a better program at this moment than USM does. Wyoming has a very good coach, who is bringing a winning tradition to Laramie. They will be a solid test for us next year. While they might not be a sexy name, it still opens the door for us to play more games vs. Mountain West opponents.

Southern Miss was going to cancel, this is the only way we could stay in control of the situation. In 2018 USM's program should be much improved and back to where they were in the past.

Lets beat them Cowboys! :D

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:56 pm

I also do not understand why any of our fans would be disappointed in this move. For the next many years we want to schedule as many home and home with our G5 as possible and the stronger the better. In the new world order we need to strenthen our schedule within reason while providing winnable games. This achieves that goal. I like that it will likely be a stronger opponent than USM. I liked the idea of playing USM in Boone but that will still happen just a few years later. FBS scheduling is a much different animal than FCS with much longer future dates at play. I want to see Mountain West, American, C-USA and MAC home and home scheduling for the next 5-10 yrs. Yes, I do want some P5 home and home wherever possible but until we expand our stadium to 30k+ that will be a much more difficult task.

I tip my hat to Jay Sutton for this move. I am very pleased.
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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Saint3333 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:12 pm

S. Miss. will be better but App will be much better and deeper.

Our scheduling has been much better than expected.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:16 pm

Saint3333 wrote:S. Miss. will be better but App will be much better and deeper.
Well said. That is a factor many don't seem to get.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Niner National » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:36 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.

All those under the radar recruits they used to get they now have far more competition for. Online recruiting sites have made hidden gems far less common and they now have more competition in their backyard than they used to from other CUSA and SBC teams. Even if they're just losing 3-4 players a year that they would have gotten in the past to other CUSA/SBC teams, over the course of 4 years, that is potentially several starter quality players that are now playing for someone else.

I personally don't see them ever turning their program back around to where it used to be. Why live in a dumpy little town in MS for a program that is now a dumpster fire when you can live in nice cities or vibrant college towns?

Maybe I'm wrong, La Tech is recruiting well right now afterall and they're in a dumpy little town too, but I just don't see it personally.

I'll be cheering for USM since they're in CUSA, but I don't think it'll be a close game at all.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:45 am

I know you're probably just setting us up for a fall, NN, but I hope you're right about this year's game. I'd be thrilled with a win by any margin, though.

As for USM in the future, I wouldn't give up on them yet. They're just three years removed from finishing in the top 20 nationally, and they have a lot of winning tradition. They made a disastrous coaching hire, and they haven't recovered from it. But whether it's Monken or someone else, eventually I think they'll find a solid coach to get them back where they were for years.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Gonzo » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:32 am

Niner National wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.

All those under the radar recruits they used to get they now have far more competition for. Online recruiting sites have made hidden gems far less common and they now have more competition in their backyard than they used to from other CUSA and SBC teams. Even if they're just losing 3-4 players a year that they would have gotten in the past to other CUSA/SBC teams, over the course of 4 years, that is potentially several starter quality players that are now playing for someone else.

I personally don't see them ever turning their program back around to where it used to be. Why live in a dumpy little town in MS for a program that is now a dumpster fire when you can live in nice cities or vibrant college towns?

Maybe I'm wrong, La Tech is recruiting well right now afterall and they're in a dumpy little town too, but I just don't see it personally.

I'll be cheering for USM since they're in CUSA, but I don't think it'll be a close game at all.
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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:24 am

Niner National wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.
So basically you are saying you think App may rout USM. Maybe the 66-0 scrimmage we had last week got some peoples attention.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by ASUPATCH » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:44 am

AtlAppMan wrote:
Niner National wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.
So basically you are saying you think App may rout USM. Maybe the 66-0 scrimmage we had last week got some peoples attention.
IMO it is more of an indictment on Southern Miss. They got throttled by Miss St worse than we did by Michigan and it took 4 FG's and a +4 turnover margin against Alcorn State to squeak out a win 26-20. Alcorns top two rushers had a combined 22 carries at over 12 yards per carry. We ran well on on Michigan so I like our chances on the ground against that abysmal run D.
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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Niner National » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:16 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Niner National wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.

All those under the radar recruits they used to get they now have far more competition for. Online recruiting sites have made hidden gems far less common and they now have more competition in their backyard than they used to from other CUSA and SBC teams. Even if they're just losing 3-4 players a year that they would have gotten in the past to other CUSA/SBC teams, over the course of 4 years, that is potentially several starter quality players that are now playing for someone else.

I personally don't see them ever turning their program back around to where it used to be. Why live in a dumpy little town in MS for a program that is now a dumpster fire when you can live in nice cities or vibrant college towns?

Maybe I'm wrong, La Tech is recruiting well right now afterall and they're in a dumpy little town too, but I just don't see it personally.

I'll be cheering for USM since they're in CUSA, but I don't think it'll be a close game at all.
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I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to mean.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:19 pm

Niner National wrote:I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to mean.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... sandbagger

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Niner National » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:24 pm

EastHallApp wrote:I know you're probably just setting us up for a fall, NN, but I hope you're right about this year's game. I'd be thrilled with a win by any margin, though.

As for USM in the future, I wouldn't give up on them yet. They're just three years removed from finishing in the top 20 nationally, and they have a lot of winning tradition. They made a disastrous coaching hire, and they haven't recovered from it. But whether it's Monken or someone else, eventually I think they'll find a solid coach to get them back where they were for years.
At this level, one bad coaching hire can set you back a decade or more.

If USM was in just about any other state, I would be far less inclined to give up on them.

They've been left behind through several rounds of re-alignment and I think their aging fanbase is finally just going to stop giving a damn.

If they can salvage the program in the next 2 years they might be okay. It is hard to build your fanbase though when you have a class or two of students that go completely through school without tasting success. I see it with Charlotte basketball myself. When I was a freshman back in 2005, the student section was always completely full on the bottom with the upper level 50-75% full. Now we've had two full classes of students come and go without seeing much in the way of success. Now I rarely see more than a few rows in the upper levels have students in them. I don't see many people around my age in the stands either because there wasn't much to cheer for other than the yearly teaser win over teams much better than ours. Those are thousands of people that will never be season ticket holders. Not that all of them would be anyway, but some definitely would have been if the teams had been fun to watch. Games used to be really fun to watch in Halton. Sellouts were rare, but it was common to have about 75% of the arena full and it was loud and had a great atmosphere. Today, the atmosphere blows compared to what it used to be.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Niner National » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:24 pm

TheMoody1 wrote:
Niner National wrote:I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to mean.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... sandbagger
ah no, definitely not sandbagging. USM is really bad. I also don't care much for their fans.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:23 pm

Niner National wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:I know you're probably just setting us up for a fall, NN, but I hope you're right about this year's game. I'd be thrilled with a win by any margin, though.

As for USM in the future, I wouldn't give up on them yet. They're just three years removed from finishing in the top 20 nationally, and they have a lot of winning tradition. They made a disastrous coaching hire, and they haven't recovered from it. But whether it's Monken or someone else, eventually I think they'll find a solid coach to get them back where they were for years.
At this level, one bad coaching hire can set you back a decade or more.

If USM was in just about any other state, I would be far less inclined to give up on them.

They've been left behind through several rounds of re-alignment and I think their aging fanbase is finally just going to stop giving a damn.

If they can salvage the program in the next 2 years they might be okay. It is hard to build your fanbase though when you have a class or two of students that go completely through school without tasting success. I see it with Charlotte basketball myself. When I was a freshman back in 2005, the student section was always completely full on the bottom with the upper level 50-75% full. Now we've had two full classes of students come and go without seeing much in the way of success. Now I rarely see more than a few rows in the upper levels have students in them. I don't see many people around my age in the stands either because there wasn't much to cheer for other than the yearly teaser win over teams much better than ours. Those are thousands of people that will never be season ticket holders. Not that all of them would be anyway, but some definitely would have been if the teams had been fun to watch. Games used to be really fun to watch in Halton. Sellouts were rare, but it was common to have about 75% of the arena full and it was loud and had a great atmosphere. Today, the atmosphere blows compared to what it used to be.
Please, let's not discuss basketball or basketball attendance just yet...I'm still trying to forget App's last season and now the upheaval in the Lady Apps coaching ranks.
Hopefully App does beat USM but this is a young team going on the road. At least maybe they gained some confidence against a totally outmanned Campbell and this can be the start of the upswing in App football.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by JTApps1 » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:51 pm

ASUPATCH wrote:
AtlAppMan wrote:
Niner National wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to see you guys beat USM by 3 TDs this year. USM is terrible.
So basically you are saying you think App may rout USM. Maybe the 66-0 scrimmage we had last week got some peoples attention.
IMO it is more of an indictment on Southern Miss. They got throttled by Miss St worse than we did by Michigan and it took 4 FG's and a +4 turnover margin against Alcorn State to squeak out a win 26-20. Alcorns top two rushers had a combined 22 carries at over 12 yards per carry. We ran well on on Michigan so I like our chances on the ground against that abysmal run D.
Not to mention they are playing Bama this week. It looks like we caught them at a good time.

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:38 pm

It may not last but Wyoming is up 7-0 over Oregon with 1 minute left in first quarter.

Craig Bohl is the real deal.
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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by App91 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:00 am

Black Saturday wrote:It may not last but Wyoming is up 7-0 over Oregon with 1 minute left in first quarter.

Craig Bohl is the real deal.
Yeah, BS, that did not turn out well!

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Re: Home and Home vs Wyoming

Unread post by Black Saturday » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:44 pm

App91 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:It may not last but Wyoming is up 7-0 over Oregon with 1 minute left in first quarter.

Craig Bohl is the real deal.
Yeah, BS, that did not turn out well!
A quarter longer than I thought it might. lol
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