That's exactly what happened. He should have been grandfathered in. NCAA sucksAppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:21 pmI haven't followed this case closely, but didnt NCAA change the rules after he was already accepted and enrolled? So, he was on campus ready to play (passed all NCAA rules) and then the NCAA said "nah, we're going to change the rules."Black Saturday wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pmRules are rules, he should not be allowedNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:35 pmThey are at 100%, he was not eligible, so if he’d played, they’d be 105%BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:33 pmTez Walker was denied by NCAA..will not play for heels for 2023..do not know the whole story other than snippets by UNC, other folks supporting the reinstatement, etc. Too bad for the kid.
When we play P5 schools, I want them at 100%.
If the rule was always in place, then I agree to it being held up. If they changed the rule AFTER the approved his transfer and then deny it because of said rule change, that is not right at all -- and not something I wouldn't put passed the NCAA for doing.
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First, i absolutely hate the holesAppmountaineers19 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:25 pmThat's exactly what happened. He should have been grandfathered in. NCAA sucksAppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:21 pmI haven't followed this case closely, but didnt NCAA change the rules after he was already accepted and enrolled? So, he was on campus ready to play (passed all NCAA rules) and then the NCAA said "nah, we're going to change the rules."Black Saturday wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pmRules are rules, he should not be allowedNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:35 pmThey are at 100%, he was not eligible, so if he’d played, they’d be 105%BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:33 pmTez Walker was denied by NCAA..will not play for heels for 2023..do not know the whole story other than snippets by UNC, other folks supporting the reinstatement, etc. Too bad for the kid.
When we play P5 schools, I want them at 100%.
If the rule was always in place, then I agree to it being held up. If they changed the rule AFTER the approved his transfer and then deny it because of said rule change, that is not right at all -- and not something I wouldn't put passed the NCAA for doing.
They should sue the NCAA. How can this happen when he transferred before the rule was made? Absolutely and completely ridiculous.
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I personally thought giving an extra Covid year across the board was a bit ridiculous but since that was done how can you punish and player/student who lost out due to a season cancellation? Horrible decisionyosef69 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:39 pmFirst, i absolutely hate the holesAppmountaineers19 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:25 pmThat's exactly what happened. He should have been grandfathered in. NCAA sucksAppStateNews wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:21 pmI haven't followed this case closely, but didnt NCAA change the rules after he was already accepted and enrolled? So, he was on campus ready to play (passed all NCAA rules) and then the NCAA said "nah, we're going to change the rules."Black Saturday wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pmRules are rules, he should not be allowedNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:35 pm
They are at 100%, he was not eligible, so if he’d played, they’d be 105%
If the rule was always in place, then I agree to it being held up. If they changed the rule AFTER the approved his transfer and then deny it because of said rule change, that is not right at all -- and not something I wouldn't put passed the NCAA for doing.
They should sue the NCAA. How can this happen when he transferred before the rule was made? Absolutely and completely ridiculous.
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Dude, I think I was one of the first to recognize GW wasn't the same team from previous years. Noted they were ranked and had 2 players on a watch list. Hoped the board was going to be civil if we didn't blow them out. I still picked us to win by 21. You need to go chill....ericsaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:43 pmDude, you really don't know how good Gardner-Webb is, do you? They aren't Gardner-Webb from a few years ago. App was also breaking in a Redshirt Freshman QB with a broken finger the first half. Sloan was toying around with d-line combinations and coverages the 1st half. Once all of that was settled, App went on a tear, scoring 24 straight points and forcing 3 turnovers. This GWU team lost to Liberty by 1 point and to Coastal by 5 last year. App scored more points on a defense that returned almost everyone, including three All-Americans, than Coastal, Marshall, and Liberty did last year.Longrifle28 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:54 amI expect UNC to try and be very physical with us this time around. We need to match that physicality, need to tackle better, and we need to limit penalties and turnovers. If/when Maye runs we need to punish him and make him really have to think about it. Defensive backs will really need to step up their game. I hope we have a good gameplan that looks to exploit possible weaknesses and then we execute.
Could UNC have a let down, and were we looking past GW? Hope so...
It was Week 1 against a well coached and very talented FCS team. I'm actually encouraged by how the game played out once Joey came in. App outscored GWU 38-14 once he came in the game, scored on five of six possessions, and he threw more touchdowns than incompletions.
Chill. GWU would've been a mid-pack Sun Belt team before expansion, probably 2019, with this team. Everyone would've been happy with a 45-24 win in a conference game at that point. Yet, because they don't understand the context, they freak out. It's dumb.
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When we were FCS (good to great years) did we ever play any G5 type teams? Seems like we played a P5, Wake a good bit, FCS or lower and our conference. During the 3 year run of Natty's we probably could have knocked off a number of G5 type teams. I'm not saying GW is at that level but they ain't too shabby. A 21 point win especially after our slow start was impressive.
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We haven't really spread teams out for many years. Seems like those formations went away with our tempo offense.
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You came to Erics aid like he’s waiting in the weeds!Longrifle28 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:49 pmDude, I think I was one of the first to recognize GW wasn't the same team from previous years. Noted they were ranked and had 2 players on a watch list. Hoped the board was going to be civil if we didn't blow them out. I still picked us to win by 21. You need to go chill....ericsaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:43 pmDude, you really don't know how good Gardner-Webb is, do you? They aren't Gardner-Webb from a few years ago. App was also breaking in a Redshirt Freshman QB with a broken finger the first half. Sloan was toying around with d-line combinations and coverages the 1st half. Once all of that was settled, App went on a tear, scoring 24 straight points and forcing 3 turnovers. This GWU team lost to Liberty by 1 point and to Coastal by 5 last year. App scored more points on a defense that returned almost everyone, including three All-Americans, than Coastal, Marshall, and Liberty did last year.Longrifle28 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:54 amI expect UNC to try and be very physical with us this time around. We need to match that physicality, need to tackle better, and we need to limit penalties and turnovers. If/when Maye runs we need to punish him and make him really have to think about it. Defensive backs will really need to step up their game. I hope we have a good gameplan that looks to exploit possible weaknesses and then we execute.
Could UNC have a let down, and were we looking past GW? Hope so...
It was Week 1 against a well coached and very talented FCS team. I'm actually encouraged by how the game played out once Joey came in. App outscored GWU 38-14 once he came in the game, scored on five of six possessions, and he threw more touchdowns than incompletions.
Chill. GWU would've been a mid-pack Sun Belt team before expansion, probably 2019, with this team. Everyone would've been happy with a 45-24 win in a conference game at that point. Yet, because they don't understand the context, they freak out. It's dumb.
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I see exactly what you see.ericsaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:48 pmOn paper, they had an advantage at QB and both lines in 2019 and 2022. So what's different? The defensive lines don't play each other so that's a pointless comparison. The offensive lines don't play each other so that's also a pointless comparison. Based on what I saw on Saturday, I'd be very encouraged about the potential of App's defensive line, dog, and anchor positions. Safety play was improved, and the corner spots and depth were upgraded over last year. You also have an upgrade in Sloan over Jones as well as most position coaches on defense.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:51 amTheir defense was embarrassed last year and will be ready to go. Over under is 58.5, which is low.
Seems folks are expecting a 38-17 type game which sounds about right on paper.
In years past we had advantages at a few position groups, that doesn’t appear to be the case this year, maybe push at WR, RB and DB (neither are great). QB, and both lines they have a clear advantage.
People reacting negatively to the GWU game doesn't surprise me but the extent of it is quite puzzling. I always thought App fans were educated on their opposition but this doesn't seem to be the case.
I think most have fear from recent history and last couple of years.
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But UNC has different rules and classes..... ha,ha haBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:16 pmRules are rules, he should not be allowedNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:35 pmThey are at 100%, he was not eligible, so if he’d played, they’d be 105%BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:33 pmTez Walker was denied by NCAA..will not play for heels for 2023..do not know the whole story other than snippets by UNC, other folks supporting the reinstatement, etc. Too bad for the kid.
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Without doing a deep Google, App played ECU a couple times. I think that’s about it.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:04 pmWhen we were FCS (good to great years) did we ever play any G5 type teams? Seems like we played a P5, Wake a good bit, FCS or lower and our conference. During the 3 year run of Natty's we probably could have knocked off a number of G5 type teams. I'm not saying GW is at that level but they ain't too shabby. A 21 point win especially after our slow start was impressive.
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I have been kneading my thoughts about this matchup all week and Big C hit on my same thought in his prediction post. Last year we had 1 FCS game of UNC playing the Rattlers to study Drake, it worried me at that time and said so before the last game, it came to fruition her gave us hell. Now IMHO Joey's will to return the favor UNC has less FCS film on Joey that we had on Drake only a little more than a half of play. Payback is going to be hell for them, again in IMHO. Joey came here to prove something and this is his stage, hide and watch closet AppHole fans. 

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I hope so, we just have the unknown with Joey. But it is an advantage for their lack of tape and I assume we were still pretty bland in the 2nd half with the offense.GreatAppSt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:56 amI have been kneading my thoughts about this matchup all week and Big C hit on my same thought in his prediction post. Last year we had 1 FCS game of UNC playing the Rattlers to study Drake, it worried me at that time and said so before the last game, it came to fruition her gave us hell. Now IMHO Joey's will to return the favor UNC has less FCS film on Joey that we had on Drake only a little more than a half of play. Payback is going to be hell for them, again in IMHO. Joey came here to prove something and this is his stage, hide and watch closet AppHole fans.![]()
Though I still worry more about our D than our O currently.
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Hopefully we won't play so far off the receivers in a bend don't break approach. Any team who has a QB with a quick release can eat us up 8 yards at a time with those sideline flanker screens. A 3 man rush isn't gonna get it tomorrow either.
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I am cautiously optimistic about our defense. UNC is not going to throw a screen on every play like GW did. We are going to have a chance to get after the QB like we did in the 4th quarter against GW. We got almost no pressure without blitzing last year. I think we can get pressure rushing 3 this season. Carolina's OL is still the weakest link of their offense.
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Our D has a lot to prove this weekend. Last year was really bad averaging ~ 32 pts/gm against FBS competition. They need to come in and play their butts off this week.biggie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:42 amI hope so, we just have the unknown with Joey. But it is an advantage for their lack of tape and I assume we were still pretty bland in the 2nd half with the offense.GreatAppSt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:56 amI have been kneading my thoughts about this matchup all week and Big C hit on my same thought in his prediction post. Last year we had 1 FCS game of UNC playing the Rattlers to study Drake, it worried me at that time and said so before the last game, it came to fruition her gave us hell. Now IMHO Joey's will to return the favor UNC has less FCS film on Joey that we had on Drake only a little more than a half of play. Payback is going to be hell for them, again in IMHO. Joey came here to prove something and this is his stage, hide and watch closet AppHole fans.![]()
Though I still worry more about our D than our O currently.
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Reasons to be optimistic as one can be.
1) Joey seems unflappable. His demeanor is just right for a game like this.
2) GW started the game with quick passes. We adjusted and took it away and in turn, created more pass rush. The takeaway is that we have coaches and players on the defensive side of the ball that can adapt.
3) 9 sacks by the Carolina defense looks good but they did it when SC abandoned the run. Anyone looks good when the other team is one dimensional. The offenses for both teams are largely intact from the teams that put up 120+ points. I imagine both defenses are better but we will see which one the most improved.
Tomorrow should be fun.
1) Joey seems unflappable. His demeanor is just right for a game like this.
2) GW started the game with quick passes. We adjusted and took it away and in turn, created more pass rush. The takeaway is that we have coaches and players on the defensive side of the ball that can adapt.
3) 9 sacks by the Carolina defense looks good but they did it when SC abandoned the run. Anyone looks good when the other team is one dimensional. The offenses for both teams are largely intact from the teams that put up 120+ points. I imagine both defenses are better but we will see which one the most improved.
Tomorrow should be fun.
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I hadn't watched the SC game so wondered what caused all the sacks. On paper it looks very scary for our OL.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:39 amReasons to be optimistic as one can be.
1) Joey seems unflappable. His demeanor is just right for a game like this.
2) GW started the game with quick passes. We adjusted and took it away and in turn, created more pass rush. The takeaway is that we have coaches and players on the defensive side of the ball that can adapt.
3) 9 sacks by the Carolina defense looks good but they did it when SC abandoned the run. Anyone looks good when the other team is one dimensional. The offenses for both teams are largely intact from the teams that put up 120+ points. I imagine both defenses are better but we will see which one the most improved.
Tomorrow should be fun.
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They don’t play games on paper. They are played on your TV screen.biggie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:58 amI hadn't watched the SC game so wondered what caused all the sacks. On paper it looks very scary for our OL.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:39 amReasons to be optimistic as one can be.
1) Joey seems unflappable. His demeanor is just right for a game like this.
2) GW started the game with quick passes. We adjusted and took it away and in turn, created more pass rush. The takeaway is that we have coaches and players on the defensive side of the ball that can adapt.
3) 9 sacks by the Carolina defense looks good but they did it when SC abandoned the run. Anyone looks good when the other team is one dimensional. The offenses for both teams are largely intact from the teams that put up 120+ points. I imagine both defenses are better but we will see which one the most improved.
Tomorrow should be fun.

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Allegations of sign stealing from a Heel staffer from his time at SC last season. Beamer didn’t change his signs. Hope we did.biggie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:58 amI hadn't watched the SC game so wondered what caused all the sacks. On paper it looks very scary for our OL.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:39 amReasons to be optimistic as one can be.
1) Joey seems unflappable. His demeanor is just right for a game like this.
2) GW started the game with quick passes. We adjusted and took it away and in turn, created more pass rush. The takeaway is that we have coaches and players on the defensive side of the ball that can adapt.
3) 9 sacks by the Carolina defense looks good but they did it when SC abandoned the run. Anyone looks good when the other team is one dimensional. The offenses for both teams are largely intact from the teams that put up 120+ points. I imagine both defenses are better but we will see which one the most improved.
Tomorrow should be fun.