Stink, Stank, Stunk, and a must win.

[WataugaMan]

"I consider this Stink game to be more important than whatever bowl we get."

I have to agree, and our team (top to bottom) probably realizes this as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, to date we have only defeated one team with a winning record (Georgia State). If we go down there and stumble all over ourselves again heaven help us.

Yep. This is the last chance we have to put some lipstick on this pig of a lost season. At this point, I am not optimistic.

If we lose this coming Saturday it's going to be a looooooong off season, regardless of the bowl situation.

Negative much, Watauga Man?

How many people have you stirred the pot with this past week, three or four? I guess it's my turn, entertaining in a strange kind of way. LOL

[Stonewall]

This is Shawn Clark’s biggest game of his coaching career to date. Certainly to date, perhaps of his tenure.

[t4pizza]

Georgia Southern currently has a winning record this season, they have beaten us the past 2 years despite us being a nationally ranked team at the time of the game, and they have shown far more that they want the win than App has the past two years. I really wish that I had seen something from this team this year that gave me any kind of confidence that we will win this game, but I have not. We beat bad teams, that is clear. We have significantly contributed to all of our losses against good teams by playing sloppy, turning the ball over, repeatedly missing field goals, and excessive penalties. In every one of our losses, all of those factors played a significant role and I can't blame anyone else for those continuing except our coaching staff. It is their job to fix things when it goes awry and to date they haven't done that. It is like groundhog day over and over again every time we play a good team. I haven't watched any Georgia Southern this year so I do not know if they are a good team, I do know that they have a winning record at 7-4 and 3 of the 4 losses were by a combined 9 points. Either way, if our coaches don't get all those aforementioned factors fixed, I don't see much chance for a victory.

[MrCraig]

This is Shawn Clark’s biggest game of his coaching career to date. Certainly to date, perhaps of his tenure.

The sad thing is, it wouldn't be his biggest game if he had beaten Marshall, Coastal, and/or ULL.

[WVAPPeer]

"I consider this Stink game to be more important than whatever bowl we get."

I have to agree, and our team (top to bottom) probably realizes this as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, to date we have only defeated one team with a winning record (Georgia State). If we go down there and stumble all over ourselves again heaven help us.

Yep. This is the last chance we have to put some lipstick on this pig of a lost season. At this point, I am not optimistic.

If we lose this coming Saturday it's going to be a looooooong off season, regardless of the bowl situation.

Sorry my favorite WVA traveler - but I disagree - the year 2020, whether it be personally, professionally, politically or football related will be forever in the rear-view mirror - I haven't heard one person say they will be sorry to see 2020 go !!! - How an individual football has done will quickly leave the level of importance which it usually holds - On reflection, most will simply feel lucky we had college football at all and hopefully we all will remain healthy enough to watch -

[clemmonsapp]

I am amazed at all the excuses people are making for poor play. As a counter point - we had more of a spring camp then almost any other program due to our early start. Most schools had 0 spring practice. Every team has had COVID issues and injuries. Why have some risen to the occasion and some not?

We took a risk on a coach with limited experience. We chose the local hero and team favorite. A players coach often does not elicit the type of discipline and respect necessary to play superior football. I like Shawn a lot and I love App Football. I am willing to give him a chance. This season is on him. He chose assistants who have not performed. He agreed to the offense we are running. He directs the OL coach. He sets the tone.

Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year.

Our HC has great resources he can learn from. Scott Satterfield will help him in any way he asks. When Scott was faced with a disaster, he made the tough calls, sat players, changed his approach, and the rest is history. Shawn can become a head coach. It is all on him and we will know when people are held accountable - or not - after this disaster of a season. I really like Shawn and want him to succeed. I love App Football and am not willing to wait indefinitely.

We have squandered our spot as one of the hottest and "sexiest" teams in FBS by making poor choices and believing our press clippings. We must see a response from our favorite son soon.

[js290]

Well put.......the concerns of the quick hire for continuity and to make players happy has been trending since the New Orleans Bowl and is now glaring.....these big fears are now becoming a reality with a senior laden team filled with winners, which is the most concerning. Need to show up big this weekend in Statesboro, otherwise the noise is going to intensify.

[GoBoone]

I am amazed at all the excuses people are making for poor play. As a counter point - we had more of a spring camp then almost any other program due to our early start. Most schools had 0 spring practice. Every team has had COVID issues and injuries. Why have some risen to the occasion and some not?

We took a risk on a coach with limited experience. We chose the local hero and team favorite. A players coach often does not elicit the type of discipline and respect necessary to play superior football. I like Shawn a lot and I love App Football. I am willing to give him a chance. This season is on him. He chose assistants who have not performed. He agreed to the offense we are running. He directs the OL coach. He sets the tone.

Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year.

Our HC has great resources he can learn from. Scott Satterfield will help him in any way he asks. When Scott was faced with a disaster, he made the tough calls, sat players, changed his approach, and the rest is history. Shawn can become a head coach. It is all on him and we will know when people are held accountable - or not - after this disaster of a season. I really like Shawn and want him to succeed. I love App Football and am not willing to wait indefinitely.

We have squandered our spot as one of the hottest and "sexiest" teams in FBS by making poor choices and believing our press clippings. We must see a response from our favorite son soon.

DANG STRAIGHT

[WVAPPeer]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us. There are a lot reasons things haven't worked out for us to be 10-0 at this point AND NO, making excuses is not where I am coming from - things happen - there are reasons NOT excuses - We've had seasons where things went right just about every game, this isn't one of them - However if you just take the 3 losses and consider how close each was to possible victory - Marshall (fumbled potential TD & missed FG) - CCU - (had lead late in 4th Q - INT) - ULL - (maybe 6 inches from winning TD on last play - great pass/great catch but one foot barely out of bounds & then missed FG) - This team could be 10-0 and that doesn't stretch the imagination very much to think that ---
Take a deep breath and try to not be so negative

[appdaze]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us.

Thank you for belittling people by making big assumptions about posters. Also, this is a fan forum, that is what fan forums do. Its not a very good way to look at things either. Just because someone hasn't coached something doesn't mean they know nothing and can't make an intelligent analysis about what's going on. No one is going to take you up on your dumb "PM ME" challenge. As fans we speculate and make comments about what is going on, that's how this whole thing works.

It would be a fascinating world if no one commented on anything that they weren't an "expert" on. 99.9% of human conversations would cease. Please don't sit back and belittle people just because they have an opinion.

[t4pizza]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us. There are a lot reasons things haven't worked out for us to be 10-0 at this point AND NO, making excuses is not where I am coming from - things happen - there are reasons NOT excuses - We've had seasons where things went right just about every game, this isn't one of them - However if you just take the 3 losses and consider how close each was to possible victory - Marshall (fumbled potential TD & missed FG) - CCU - (had lead late in 4th Q - INT) - ULL - (maybe 6 inches from winning TD on last play - great pass/great catch but one foot barely out of bounds & then missed FG) - This team could be 10-0 and that doesn't stretch the imagination very much to think that ---
Take a deep breath and try to not be so negative

I think that is what is so hard about this season, a couple little things and all of those losses could be wins. The problem is that NONE of the issues from Marshall were fixed prior to Coastal and ALL of the ISSUES occurred at Coastal again, and again against ULL. Honestly, in all my years of watching App, I can't think of a single season that things went right just about every game, there is always something in a game that goes wrong. There are always issue in the games, we have just had a really, really good track record of finding and fixing those issues and not letting the SAME things beat us in multiple games. That is the frustrating part of the season, at least for me, because we haven't fixed the problems. To be clear, the problems I speak of are sloppy play, fumbles, interceptions, and excessive penalties. Those issues were evident game 1 against Charlotte and they remain evident throughout the entire season. It is on the coaches to fix that stuff.

[appfanjj]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us. There are a lot reasons things haven't worked out for us to be 10-0 at this point AND NO, making excuses is not where I am coming from - things happen - there are reasons NOT excuses - We've had seasons where things went right just about every game, this isn't one of them - However if you just take the 3 losses and consider how close each was to possible victory - Marshall (fumbled potential TD & missed FG) - CCU - (had lead late in 4th Q - INT) - ULL - (maybe 6 inches from winning TD on last play - great pass/great catch but one foot barely out of bounds & then missed FG) - This team could be 10-0 and that doesn't stretch the imagination very much to think that ---
Take a deep breath and try to not be so negative

Woulda. Coulda. Shoulda. Sure we were in some close games against great teams. The three we lost were against excellent teams. Point is, we did lose them and they won them. They dug deep and found a way to win and we were not able to. What might have been doesn’t matter. What actually did (or did not) happen is what matters. Hope we win in Statesboro on Saturday. We absolutely can. But...will we?

[Yosef84]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us. There are a lot reasons things haven't worked out for us to be 10-0 at this point AND NO, making excuses is not where I am coming from - things happen - there are reasons NOT excuses - We've had seasons where things went right just about every game, this isn't one of them - However if you just take the 3 losses and consider how close each was to possible victory - Marshall (fumbled potential TD & missed FG) - CCU - (had lead late in 4th Q - INT) - ULL - (maybe 6 inches from winning TD on last play - great pass/great catch but one foot barely out of bounds & then missed FG) - This team could be 10-0 and that doesn't stretch the imagination very much to think that ---
Take a deep breath and try to not be so negative

I think that is what is so hard about this season, a couple little things and all of those losses could be wins. The problem is that NONE of the issues from Marshall were fixed prior to Coastal and ALL of the ISSUES occurred at Coastal again, and again against ULL. Honestly, in all my years of watching App, I can't think of a single season that things went right just about every game, there is always something in a game that goes wrong. There are always issue in the games, we have just had a really, really good track record of finding and fixing those issues and not letting the SAME things beat us in multiple games. That is the frustrating part of the season, at least for me, because we haven't fixed the problems. To be clear, the problems I speak of are sloppy play, fumbles, interceptions, and excessive penalties. Those issues were evident game 1 against Charlotte and they remain evident throughout the entire season. It is on the coaches to fix that stuff.

The 2004 season stands out in my memory as a season where we had a glaring issue (our two freshman CBs couldn't cover down field) and it was never fixed. We did fix it in the off season though, which is evident from the NC in 2005.

[WVAPPeer]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us.

Thank you for belittling people by making big assumptions about posters. Also, this is a fan forum, that is what fan forums do. Its not a very good way to look at things either. Just because someone hasn't coached something doesn't mean they know nothing and can't make an intelligent analysis about what's going on. No one is going to take you up on your dumb "PM ME" challenge. As fans we speculate and make comments about what is going on, that's how this whole thing works.

It would be a fascinating world if no one commented on anything that they weren't an "expert" on. 99.9% of human conversations would cease. Please don't sit back and belittle people just because they have an opinion.

"Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year."

You can call this statement an opinion all you want - I will call it what it is - Stupidity!!! - He is saying this about guys who have won 3-4 straight conference championships - Now, all of a sudden they don't give a shit - wake up - you are in a daze

[appdaze]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us.

Thank you for belittling people by making big assumptions about posters. Also, this is a fan forum, that is what fan forums do. Its not a very good way to look at things either. Just because someone hasn't coached something doesn't mean they know nothing and can't make an intelligent analysis about what's going on. No one is going to take you up on your dumb "PM ME" challenge. As fans we speculate and make comments about what is going on, that's how this whole thing works.

It would be a fascinating world if no one commented on anything that they weren't an "expert" on. 99.9% of human conversations would cease. Please don't sit back and belittle people just because they have an opinion.

"Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year."

You can call this statement an opinion all you want - I will call it what it is - Stupidity!!! - He is saying this about guys who have won 3-4 straight conference championships - Now, all of a sudden they don't give a shit - wake up - you are in a daze

So if you had an issue with what a specific person said why don't you quote them instead of making a blanket statement that isn't directly at them? If you had quoted that person and made comments with them directly then I wouldn't have made my comments. So when you have an issue with a person speak with them directly instead of making passive aggressive open statements.

[WVAPPeer]

Just a few stats for the genius who said our guys "use poor form and get beat time and again" -

12th in the nation in TOTAL DEFENSE
27th in the nation in 4TH DOWN DEFENSE
13th in the nation in PASSES INTERCEPTED
Jean Charles #1 in the nation in PASSES DEFENDED
30th in the nation in KICK-OFF RETURN DEFENSE
23rd in the nation in NET PUNTING
11th in the nation in PASSING YARDS ALLOWED
18th in the nation in PUNT RETURN DEFENSE
10th in the nation in RED ZONE DEFENSE
4th in the nation in PASS DEFENSE EFFICIENCY

[appdaze]

I am amazed at all the excuses people are making for poor play. As a counter point - we had more of a spring camp then almost any other program due to our early start. Most schools had 0 spring practice. Every team has had COVID issues and injuries. Why have some risen to the occasion and some not?

We took a risk on a coach with limited experience. We chose the local hero and team favorite. A players coach often does not elicit the type of discipline and respect necessary to play superior football. I like Shawn a lot and I love App Football. I am willing to give him a chance. This season is on him. He chose assistants who have not performed. He agreed to the offense we are running. He directs the OL coach. He sets the tone.

Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year.

Our HC has great resources he can learn from. Scott Satterfield will help him in any way he asks. When Scott was faced with a disaster, he made the tough calls, sat players, changed his approach, and the rest is history. Shawn can become a head coach. It is all on him and we will know when people are held accountable - or not - after this disaster of a season. I really like Shawn and want him to succeed. I love App Football and am not willing to wait indefinitely.

We have squandered our spot as one of the hottest and "sexiest" teams in FBS by making poor choices and believing our press clippings. We must see a response from our favorite son soon.

I think WVAPP is trying to come at you but even after I mentioned he quote you if he has an issue he still didn't. I'm not sure what you did but he must be pretty scared of you that he won't directly quote you to respond to what you said.

[AppDub]

"I consider this Stink game to be more important than whatever bowl we get."

I have to agree, and our team (top to bottom) probably realizes this as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, to date we have only defeated one team with a winning record (Georgia State). If we go down there and stumble all over ourselves again heaven help us.

Yep. This is the last chance we have to put some lipstick on this pig of a lost season. At this point, I am not optimistic.

If we lose this coming Saturday it's going to be a looooooong off season, regardless of the bowl situation.

Sorry my favorite WVA traveler - but I disagree - the year 2020, whether it be personally, professionally, politically or football related will be forever in the rear-view mirror - I haven't heard one person say they will be sorry to see 2020 go !!! - How an individual football has done will quickly leave the level of importance which it usually holds - On reflection, most will simply feel lucky we had college football at all and hopefully we all will remain healthy enough to watch -

I'm thinking Coastal will remember 2020 for a while and quite fondly at that.

[WVAPPeer]

I am just wondering how many of your guys who know all the "problems" and speculate on all the answers to resolve those "problems" have ever coached or played at a level above pee-wee, If you have been a coordinator or a head coach or have sat in on film sessions and game planning? If you have, please PM me because I would be happy to discuss football with you - If not, then you are just upset about how the season has progressed - All of us feel that way and I am sure the players and coaches feel so more than us.

Thank you for belittling people by making big assumptions about posters. Also, this is a fan forum, that is what fan forums do. Its not a very good way to look at things either. Just because someone hasn't coached something doesn't mean they know nothing and can't make an intelligent analysis about what's going on. No one is going to take you up on your dumb "PM ME" challenge. As fans we speculate and make comments about what is going on, that's how this whole thing works.

It would be a fascinating world if no one commented on anything that they weren't an "expert" on. 99.9% of human conversations would cease. Please don't sit back and belittle people just because they have an opinion.

"Either you are disciplined and do the little things right or you don't! That is what has made App Football exceptional. That is what "Today I Give My All" means. Giving your all is not poor preparation, turnovers, missed blocks. TIGMA is everyone finishing plays on offense and defense. TIGMA is not defenders using poor form and getting beat time and time again by a QB playing sandlot ball. I know these are all part of football, but exceptional teams minimize them and make them the exception. They are the rule for us this year."

You can call this statement an opinion all you want - I will call it what it is - Stupidity!!! - He is saying this about guys who have won 3-4 straight conference championships - Now, all of a sudden they don't give a shit - wake up - you are in a daze

So if you had an issue with what a specific person said why don't you quote them instead of making a blanket statement that isn't directly at them? If you had quoted that person and made comments with them directly then I wouldn't have made my comments. So when you have an issue with a person speak with them directly instead of making passive aggressive open statements.

Either you are one of those guys who sees all the problems and knows all the answers or you are not - you decide. I don't have the time nor desire to go thru and pick out every clueless comment -

[WVAPPeer]

"I consider this Stink game to be more important than whatever bowl we get."

I have to agree, and our team (top to bottom) probably realizes this as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, to date we have only defeated one team with a winning record (Georgia State). If we go down there and stumble all over ourselves again heaven help us.

Yep. This is the last chance we have to put some lipstick on this pig of a lost season. At this point, I am not optimistic.

If we lose this coming Saturday it's going to be a looooooong off season, regardless of the bowl situation.

Sorry my favorite WVA traveler - but I disagree - the year 2020, whether it be personally, professionally, politically or football related will be forever in the rear-view mirror - I haven't heard one person say they will be sorry to see 2020 go !!! - How an individual football has done will quickly leave the level of importance which it usually holds - On reflection, most will simply feel lucky we had college football at all and hopefully we all will remain healthy enough to watch -

I'm thinking Coastal will remember 2020 for a while and quite fondly at that.

Oh I am sure they will and they have every right to as will the team that takes home the National Championship trophy - and I did say "Most"