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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:54 pm

Newspapers are normally so accurate. :roll:

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:29 pm

NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate. :roll:
Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by firemoose » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:15 pm

T-Dog wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate. :roll:
Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.
Except it's now spreading T. It's getting out of hand. The WBTV story now doesn't even mention the guy who did the actual stabbing, even though it's in their previous story. And the story is now morphing into our players stabbed another student. Each time someone gets it wrong it changes again. This is the bad version of tell the start of a line of people a sentence and see what comes out the other end. This is what I've been saying all along. One group/paper/news organization gets it wrong and it spreads like cancer. Now our players are stabbing each other. And BTW, the first story, the one on WLOS, actually came from the AP. The only problem is everyone is linking the Journal story but no one is bothering to read it first.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/35628733/two- ... er-student

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:50 pm

The AP story, as best I can tell, is factually correct throughout, if poorly organized and less clear than ideal. The real problem is the headline. The WBTV story is more problematic throughout.

That's media cost-cutting and consolidation at work. So much sharing of resources now that mistakes are easier to miss (because stories go out faster and there are fewer editors reviewing them) and then appear in multiple outlets rather than each one having a beat reporter of their own.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by firemoose » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:17 pm

Yep. We used to be taught RIF. And Reading is Fundamental. If anyone who wrote these stories would have actually read the Journal story they all linked (or the Democrat story) then we wouldn't even be having to talk about this. It does get tiring having to see this stuff everyday and to watch it develop. Hate to see what it's going to be by tomorrow.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by ASU3432Mi » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:40 am

"Fake News"

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:19 pm

There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:30 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
Good luck with that! I suspect they need every click dollar they can get (at any ones' or things' expense), and they probably can't afford to have somebody manning the phones on weekends. This ain't years ago.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:58 pm

T-Dog wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate. :roll:
Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.
Haha. Our own member of the media just gave us a perfect example by completely blowing my statement out of proportion. Cheers.

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Unread post by firemoose » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:39 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
I've already tried that, both by message, e-mail, and calls. Nothing has worked. I sent a message to Bret, since all are linking his story, and to Zeke. Hopefully they will try and get something changed. And it continues. This came up on the ACT twitter less than 30 minutes ago.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:49 pm

Plain and simple guys. The media is not what it used to be. Facts are often wrong. Grammar sucks. Headlines are intentionally misleading. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. The media today in general is much more concerned with being first than being accurate. Then just try and get them to correct their mistakes.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:57 pm

If it shows up in The Washington Post then it is most likely true --- as bcoach says so many others only want to be the first ---
"Montani Semper Liberi"

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:55 pm

NoLongerLurking wrote:
T-Dog wrote:
NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate. :roll:
Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.
Haha. Our own member of the media just gave us a perfect example by completely blowing my statement out of proportion. Cheers.
Then don't post a snarky quip saying "newspapers" and instead say "some newspapers" next time. You're the one who lumped all newspapers together.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by T-Dog » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:00 pm

bcoach wrote:Plain and simple guys. The media is not what it used to be. Facts are often wrong. Grammar sucks. Headlines are intentionally misleading. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. The media today in general is much more concerned with being first than being accurate. Then just try and get them to correct their mistakes.
Lumping all media together is just as lazy as the headline mistake the AP made. Your local papers are different that some nut on on extremist website, who are different than the blowhards on political TV, who are different that newscasters who spend 20 minutes talking about who was killed, injured and what could kill you tomorrow.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:36 pm

firemoose wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
I've already tried that, both by message, e-mail, and calls. Nothing has worked. I sent a message to Bret, since all are linking his story, and to Zeke. Hopefully they will try and get something changed. And it continues. This came up on the ACT twitter less than 30 minutes ago.

Handling stuff like this is part of Zeke Beam's core job description, or it should be. I would hope he's already on top of it.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by firemoose » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:04 pm

I've got messages in to him and Bret and I have been communicating on twitter about it as well. Just trying to keep up with it. No way to get ahead of it now but I'm doing my best. WBTV changed the headline but the story still implies they "all face assault and battery charges in the stabbing" which is not correct. The A&B come from the fight. That still appears they were directly involved in the stabbing.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:09 pm

I suspect you are fighting a losing battle. Sensationally worded headlines/snippets drive curious or appalled folks to view the content. The content does not matter, but the number of ads served to viewers of the content does. I think it used to be called yellow journalism. Digitally delivered it is now known as "fake news".

WLOS and the ACT are playing this game for financial reasons. They need us, but we don't need them. They are essentially parasites.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:14 pm

I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by CVAPP » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:36 pm

EastHallApp wrote:I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.
You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.

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Re: Player Stabbed

Unread post by T-Dog » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:50 am

CVAPP wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.
You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.
You are fundamentally wrong that something sinister is in the works here.

But I'm not going to change your mind. You've already lumped a TV outlet and a newspaper together as parasites because they have the gall to believe their content is valuable because they put ads on their websites while providing it for free.

I'm angry because 99% of the time, there's no reason to think the AP got something this badly wrong, so it'll take many headaches to fix. I'm angry because it overshadows the work of two local papers who did the work and got it right. I'm angry because it leads to the conclusion from some that because one writer screws up, all media are evil and should be lumped together, including those who got it right.

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