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Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate.
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Except it's now spreading T. It's getting out of hand. The WBTV story now doesn't even mention the guy who did the actual stabbing, even though it's in their previous story. And the story is now morphing into our players stabbed another student. Each time someone gets it wrong it changes again. This is the bad version of tell the start of a line of people a sentence and see what comes out the other end. This is what I've been saying all along. One group/paper/news organization gets it wrong and it spreads like cancer. Now our players are stabbing each other. And BTW, the first story, the one on WLOS, actually came from the AP. The only problem is everyone is linking the Journal story but no one is bothering to read it first.T-Dog wrote:Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate.
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The AP story, as best I can tell, is factually correct throughout, if poorly organized and less clear than ideal. The real problem is the headline. The WBTV story is more problematic throughout.
That's media cost-cutting and consolidation at work. So much sharing of resources now that mistakes are easier to miss (because stories go out faster and there are fewer editors reviewing them) and then appear in multiple outlets rather than each one having a beat reporter of their own.
That's media cost-cutting and consolidation at work. So much sharing of resources now that mistakes are easier to miss (because stories go out faster and there are fewer editors reviewing them) and then appear in multiple outlets rather than each one having a beat reporter of their own.
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Yep. We used to be taught RIF. And Reading is Fundamental. If anyone who wrote these stories would have actually read the Journal story they all linked (or the Democrat story) then we wouldn't even be having to talk about this. It does get tiring having to see this stuff everyday and to watch it develop. Hate to see what it's going to be by tomorrow.
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There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
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Good luck with that! I suspect they need every click dollar they can get (at any ones' or things' expense), and they probably can't afford to have somebody manning the phones on weekends. This ain't years ago.AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
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Haha. Our own member of the media just gave us a perfect example by completely blowing my statement out of proportion. Cheers.T-Dog wrote:Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate.
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I've already tried that, both by message, e-mail, and calls. Nothing has worked. I sent a message to Bret, since all are linking his story, and to Zeke. Hopefully they will try and get something changed. And it continues. This came up on the ACT twitter less than 30 minutes ago.AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
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Plain and simple guys. The media is not what it used to be. Facts are often wrong. Grammar sucks. Headlines are intentionally misleading. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. The media today in general is much more concerned with being first than being accurate. Then just try and get them to correct their mistakes.
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If it shows up in The Washington Post then it is most likely true --- as bcoach says so many others only want to be the first ---
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Then don't post a snarky quip saying "newspapers" and instead say "some newspapers" next time. You're the one who lumped all newspapers together.NoLongerLurking wrote:Haha. Our own member of the media just gave us a perfect example by completely blowing my statement out of proportion. Cheers.T-Dog wrote:Yes because one paper screwed up, all papers are now evil, even after two local papers gor it right. Get out of here with that nonsense.NoLongerLurking wrote:Newspapers are normally so accurate.
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Lumping all media together is just as lazy as the headline mistake the AP made. Your local papers are different that some nut on on extremist website, who are different than the blowhards on political TV, who are different that newscasters who spend 20 minutes talking about who was killed, injured and what could kill you tomorrow.bcoach wrote:Plain and simple guys. The media is not what it used to be. Facts are often wrong. Grammar sucks. Headlines are intentionally misleading. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find the truth. The media today in general is much more concerned with being first than being accurate. Then just try and get them to correct their mistakes.
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firemoose wrote:I've already tried that, both by message, e-mail, and calls. Nothing has worked. I sent a message to Bret, since all are linking his story, and to Zeke. Hopefully they will try and get something changed. And it continues. This came up on the ACT twitter less than 30 minutes ago.AppGrad78 wrote:There's a simple solution to this. Rather than complain on a message board, just call WLOS and tell them their headline is wrong. They aren't intentionally trying to get it wrong. There's no vendetta against App. It doesn't correct the story already in print, but it keeps WLOS from perpetuating a falsehood online.
Handling stuff like this is part of Zeke Beam's core job description, or it should be. I would hope he's already on top of it.
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I've got messages in to him and Bret and I have been communicating on twitter about it as well. Just trying to keep up with it. No way to get ahead of it now but I'm doing my best. WBTV changed the headline but the story still implies they "all face assault and battery charges in the stabbing" which is not correct. The A&B come from the fight. That still appears they were directly involved in the stabbing.
http://www.wbtv.com/story/35628733/two- ... er-student
http://www.wbtv.com/story/35628733/two- ... er-student
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I suspect you are fighting a losing battle. Sensationally worded headlines/snippets drive curious or appalled folks to view the content. The content does not matter, but the number of ads served to viewers of the content does. I think it used to be called yellow journalism. Digitally delivered it is now known as "fake news".
WLOS and the ACT are playing this game for financial reasons. They need us, but we don't need them. They are essentially parasites.
WLOS and the ACT are playing this game for financial reasons. They need us, but we don't need them. They are essentially parasites.
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I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.
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You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.EastHallApp wrote:I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.
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You are fundamentally wrong that something sinister is in the works here.CVAPP wrote:You are naive. They get clicks, they get money.EastHallApp wrote:I honestly don't believe any of these outlets are intentionally reporting or implying inaccuracies. In fact that headline could potentially open them up to a libel suit, which could be far more financially damaging than whatever revenue they raise off page views on a story most people outside our immediate orbit probably aren't even aware of.
But I'm not going to change your mind. You've already lumped a TV outlet and a newspaper together as parasites because they have the gall to believe their content is valuable because they put ads on their websites while providing it for free.
I'm angry because 99% of the time, there's no reason to think the AP got something this badly wrong, so it'll take many headaches to fix. I'm angry because it overshadows the work of two local papers who did the work and got it right. I'm angry because it leads to the conclusion from some that because one writer screws up, all media are evil and should be lumped together, including those who got it right.