Future Schedule

CVAPP · Unread post by **CVAPP** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:25 pm

AppDawg wrote: The point is, the strength of the SunBelt is doing us zero favors.

It might have done us some favors in the W column over the last 11 games, and perhaps will do some with regard to bowl eligibility this season. Otherwise it's shaping up to be a lot like the old SoCon power 3 with one unfamiliar name in the mix.

Deano · Unread post by **Deano** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:07 pm

Playing an FCS opponent does nothing for us, unless we lose then you can bet we will not make a bowl game unless we win out our conference. There are enough FBS programs out there that will be willing to schedule a home and home, especially after we win our conference and go to our first bowl game, this will help get our name out there a little more. Face it many programs across the country still think we are FCS.

hapapp · Unread post by **hapapp** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:30 pm

This is our OOC schedule for 2017:
09/16 - Akron
09/23 - Wake Forest
10/28 - at UMass
TBA - at Georgia

No FCS...one G5 and P5 at home...and at this point the home games are back to back.

HighlandsApp · Unread post by **HighlandsApp** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:40 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
AppDawg wrote: To the point not much difference between FCS and bottom tier FBS - the FCS teams we are now playing, yes there is a difference. Plus polls still have a human element. A win over FCS does nothing for you except 1 W closer to bowl eligible. A win over FBS, even if ranked 128 of 128 is still perceived better than a win over howard.
Teams don't get picked for bowls or ranked in polls based on their worst win. Can you imagine any scenario where someone is comparing us to, say, Marshall, and they say "Well, they're pretty close, but the difference to me is that App State beat NC Central, while Marshall beat North Texas"? I can't. (Well, other than North Texas not being terrible anymore.)

If you're in consideration for a top 25 ranking or even a bowl, it's just assumed that you can handle your business against the worst teams in the country.

You're right about the human element, though. And to a human - especially, say, a sportswriter who mostly covers power conferences and pays relatively little attention to G5 football - a bad team is a bad team. Blowing out one of the bottom five teams in FBS does not make a significantly different impact on perception than blowing out an FCS team, IMO.

And you're also right about the difference in quality. A bad FBS team is better than a bad FCS team - which means there's at least an outside shot they could beat you on an off day.

North Texas lost last week to a 3-2 FCS team 66-7 and then fired their coach in the locker room....

The FCS teams we will schedule will always be bottom of the barrel FCS since we can not and should not pay out $300k to $400k to a good FCS team. I think I once read that we we paying the FCS teams in the $150k range? Does anyone know?

APPdiesel · Unread post by **APPdiesel** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:19 pm

bcoach wrote: I agree 100% and add that FCS should be a VERY last resort. The number one reason I heard over and over for wanting to make the move is to get better competition. A&T is not better competition and we should not have to pay an FCS team to come to Boone. We are looking for income not expenses.

A&T was not the plan bcoach. UMass ditched us to play a money game vs S. Carolina so we had to fill somehow.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:41 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
bcoach wrote: I agree 100% and add that FCS should be a VERY last resort. The number one reason I heard over and over for wanting to make the move is to get better competition. A&T is not better competition and we should not have to pay an FCS team to come to Boone. We are looking for income not expenses.
A&T was not the plan bcoach. UMass ditched us to play a money game vs S. Carolina so we had to fill somehow.

Yes I know that but it does not change the fact that we are stuck with a horrible game for another year.

Saint3333 · Unread post by **Saint3333** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:16 pm

I have to say our 2015-2018 schedule is much better than I expected it to be when we announced the move in 2012.

MDaniels84 · Unread post by **MDaniels84** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:23 pm

Someone get on the horn with Shawn Elliott and see if we can ink a deal with the Gamecocks in the next few years

AppDawg · Unread post by **AppDawg** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:33 pm

hapapp wrote:This is our OOC schedule for 2017:
09/16 - Akron
09/23 - Wake Forest
10/28 - at UMass
TBA - at Georgia

No FCS...one G5 and P5 at home...and at this point the home games are back to back.

This. This is what we should strive for every year. I would love nothing more than to start an annual game with Wake - a la clemson/SC or UGA/GT. Wake is a winnable P5 - if not then, then replace with a top G5. Regardless should be an all FBS schedule. Otherwise any dreams of the Access Slot are slim to none.

AppDawg · Unread post by **AppDawg** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:39 pm

CVAPP wrote:
AppDawg wrote: The point is, the strength of the SunBelt is doing us zero favors.
It might have done us some favors in the W column over the last 11 games, and perhaps will do some with regard to bowl eligibility this season. Otherwise it's shaping up to be a lot like the old SoCon power 3 with one unfamiliar name in the mix.

I agree. In transition, we have done it right. Further, it has helped attendance and brought back the "casual" fan. The group of fans that only look at W's and L's and not dissect every play like we do on here. The W's right now are perfectly timed to extend a bridge to those lost when JM left and SS took over and for a young team to gain some confidence.

My stance on the schedule is, now that we have transitioned, what do we need to do going forward to take the next step.

rreaves · Unread post by **rreaves** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:26 pm

Scheduling is always tough, especially since it has to happen so far in advance. I'd like to throw in that Coach Moore always talked about playing 1 power team each year, not just for the money but because it may our team better. You don't get better unless you're challenged. I've always been good with our move to the Sun Belt because I knew we'd be competitive and we need to keep winning or we'd lose fans, players, excitement, etc. BUT, I also believe with our rabid fan base and overall program momentum that we can attain loftier heights down the road. All this to say, I like dangling our feet in the deep end of the P5 pool.

bcoach · Unread post by **bcoach** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:14 pm

Saint3333 wrote:I have to say our 2015-2018 schedule is much better than I expected it to be when we announced the move in 2012.

Yes I agree. I just cringe when I see A&T on the schedule, especially after getting back from the GA State game. They are just not an FBS program. They had what looked to be less than 1000 fans and the team is just bad. That makes two teams next year that we should not have to be playing. I do agree though that the future out of conference is better than I anticipated also.

Apptiger · Unread post by **Apptiger** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:35 pm

Not trying to start anything here but we need to play regional G5's from other conferences to get our name around that universe just in case the Belt implodes. I use the term regional in the most broad sense. Teams I wouldn't mind seeing us play- USF, UCF, ECU, Marshall, Middle Tenn, Tulane, FAU, FIU, Ball Sate, Bowling Green, UCONN, Memphis, WKU. Think we have some history with Ball State, BG, Mid Tenn,ECU, WKU and the blundering well ,you know....
Maybe pick up alternate home and homes with Wake and Duke. Slip in an NC State, or Virginia and then go SEC every other year.

AppSt94 · Unread post by **AppSt94** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:04 pm

I agree with playing regional teams. Playing Wyoming isn't going to do much for recruiting since Wyoming is about as remote as we are. OOC games in Florida against the G5's make the most sense given the importance of the state in recruiting. The same for all of the Southeast as Apptiger pointed out.

APPdiesel · Unread post by **APPdiesel** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:03 pm

Anyone else watching this A State - South Alabama game? This really makes the Sunbelt look pathetic. There are literally dozens of people in the stands, zero atmosphere.

Benson needs to have "how would this make the conference look" in mind every time he makes a decision.

twitter.com/diesel933

appsfan · Unread post by **appsfan** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:26 pm

I am watching. I understand that most schools would have a problem getting a big crowd on a Tuesday night. The game , however, could be better. The game is ragged. The more I watch, the more I like our chances against both squads assuming this is how both usually play.

AppFan11 · Unread post by **AppFan11** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:42 pm

Yes I have been watching game.... We beat both these teams fairly easily... it will be difficult for any of the Sunbelt teams to score 20 pts on us. As far as scheduling, we need to play the top G5 teams from all conferences (G5) regardless of proximity to Boone. The goal is to play and compete for the Access Bowl. This means we need to play Boise St, Toledo, Temple, Houston's of the world. Its no different then we started to schedule Montana.

T-Dog · Unread post by **T-Dog** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:15 am

I don't think anyone really likes having to put A&T on next year's schedule, but UMass wanted to move the game and South Carolina paid App to move that game per the home and home contract and we were without a game with just a year's notice.

MtnMan09 · Unread post by **MtnMan09** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:46 am

I have two questions:

First, can someone tell me again why So. Miss pulled out of their return visit to Boone?

Second, why are we not able to get home and homes, or even one and dones, with bottom tier P5's? I understand the in-state big brother mentality that keeps UNC State and Duke from playing us, but what about Vandy, Kentucky, Virginia, Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana,Colorado, Washington, Washington State?

Even Ws against AAC members with name recognition like Cincy, UConn, SMU, Houston the florida commuter schools, Navy, ECU will get us on people's radar. We need to face that FBS football is a rat race. A rat race fueled by fan and commentator perception. It is not just about talent v. talent. It seems we either have to play the Clemsons/LSUs of the world or teams like Umass/Akron. We need to schedule, AND BEAT, teams that people recognize. Playing WKU and Bowling Green may seem fine because we follow G5 football, but that does nothing for us in the eyes of the rest of the country.

We always schedule high profile P5s (maybe those are the only teams that will schedule us I don't know) and I am not sure it helps us to lose by 30+ on TV. Why not spend a couple of years trying to beat the lower level name teams. I think it'd go a long way for the program, especially to counteract SB's terrible strength of schedule, to hang in with and maybe beat a Cincy or a Kentucky.

If someone who is in the know can tell me why we aren't going after those type of games I'd appreciate it.

AppFan11 · Unread post by **AppFan11** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:18 am

Ok first most of our current (future schedules) were done under the philosophy of our former AD. which stated that we would play 1) P5 (top SEC, ACC team) then 1) FCS (so we could have six home games) and 2 peer group games(emphasis on close proximity to fan base).... Also the future schedules were complete thru 2017 and most of 2018 prior to Doug Gillin's arrival. He has talked about changing that formula to playing more G5 games while still working on home/home games w/ P5. I would be ok w/ having 5 hgs if it makes financial sense.

Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Re: Future Schedule

Login • Register