Sunday Reflections

[hapapp]

- It was ugly, andI remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Any team that averages over 400 yards a game on offense (and outgained us) is likely better than its record indicates. Absent a fake field goal and late TD, the game is 14-7 at the half after we scored two early first quarter TDs. We didn't really put the game away until the 4th quarter. No doubt a better team wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot as they did. Clearly, they have some issues on defense but it was a very competitive game from my seat for most of the game.

I admire the courtesy for the opponent. They did fight hard, which is more than ODU did. But if they're better than their record, shouldn't they have been able to stay within single digits of at least one opponent? Even FCS North Dakota? Hard to chalk that up to bad luck.

Every computer ranking I've seen has them at or near the bottom of FBS, and below many FCS teams.

Not trying to be courteous just think this game should serve as a lesson to our fans that they should never sell an FBS opponent short. A little research before the game would have revealed a former Big Ten passing leader and a RB who averaged 100+ yards a game. We shouldn't have been surprised that they could move the ball.

[YesAppCan]

- It was ugly, andI remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Any team that averages over 400 yards a game on offense (and outgained us) is likely better than its record indicates. Absent a fake field goal and late TD, the game is 14-7 at the half after we scored two early first quarter TDs. We didn't really put the game away until the 4th quarter. No doubt a better team wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot as they did. Clearly, they have some issues on defense but it was a very competitive game from my seat for most of the game.

I admire the courtesy for the opponent. They did fight hard, which is more than ODU did. But if they're better than their record, shouldn't they have been able to stay within single digits of at least one opponent? Even FCS North Dakota? Hard to chalk that up to bad luck.

Every computer ranking I've seen has them at or near the bottom of FBS, and below many FCS teams.

Sometimes teams do get better as a season goes on (app last year) though not immediately turn losses into W's as App did last year. I am in the camp that Wyoming is much better than their record. The competitiveness was there and sans a couple bad mistakes (us ala Clemson) the score is closer than the 18 differential. I do fully give App credit for winning when things didn't go fully as scripted for them. Just my 2¢.

[Yosef84]

Regarding Wyoming being "better than their record," I am one who believe that statement to be true and I have stated it in a couple of threads previously. Yes, they are now 0 - 5 against lower tier teams, but their losses haven't been because they lack athletes or talent. They are a very young team, and they make mistakes which has meant lost opportunities. They also have a TERRIBLE field goal kicker, and we know first hand what that can do.

They moved te ball bewee the 20's but couldn't score That has been the story of their season.

I do not beieve the Apps were as intense as we have been in previous games. I also donot believe this will be an ongoing problem! This might have been EXACTLY what the team needs going into conference play. They are not going to like the tape, so they get a wake up all without getting a loss!

Let's move on to GSU! GO APPS!

[JTApps1]

- It was ugly, andI remain unsure why so many people are saying Wyoming is better than their record. They've lost every game by double digits, against a very weak schedule, including an FCS team. I'd say that's pretty darn bad, regardless of the fact that they have a couple nice players on offense.

- With that said, I don't think it's a big deal, and I don't necessarily buy that our guys were overconfident or lost focus. It's not going to be 49-0 every week. We played a mediocre game in a quagmire and still won in a blowout.

- I'm not concerned about Lamb. At all.

- I am somewhat more concerned about the run defense vs. Wyoming. Just one game and hopefully a blip. But if something's going to turn into a negative trend, my guess would be that it will be this.

- Lastly, let's take a step back and appreciate how far this program has come in a year. Last year we were celebrating any FBS win like it was a championship. We basically all agreed that a last-minute, two-point, home-field win over UL-Monroe was a landmark for the program. Now we're holding our noses over an 18-point snoozer against Wyoming. Sounds like progress to me.

Any team that averages over 400 yards a game on offense (and outgained us) is likely better than its record indicates. Absent a fake field goal and late TD, the game is 14-7 at the half after we scored two early first quarter TDs. We didn't really put the game away until the 4th quarter. No doubt a better team wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot as they did. Clearly, they have some issues on defense but it was a very competitive game from my seat for most of the game.

I admire the courtesy for the opponent. They did fight hard, which is more than ODU did. But if they're better than their record, shouldn't they have been able to stay within single digits of at least one opponent? Even FCS North Dakota? Hard to chalk that up to bad luck.

Every computer ranking I've seen has them at or near the bottom of FBS, and below many FCS teams.

We started off poorly last year with a loss to an FCS, but clearly we were a better team than our record showed at the time. Wyoming is in a very similar situation.

[Black Saturday]

Apptiger, The team is light years ahead of the first half of last year, no doubt. I actually thought we might give Clemson a better game...and we did play relatively well until the turnover bug bit us. As I see it and compare teams, right now I think APP finishes in the top 2 of the conference. We have some really good players in some positions. We cant help our strength of schedule and have done as expected, except give Clemson a better challenge. It has been a good tune up for the conference gauntlet coming.

What was the name of that beer that only you drank 30 years ago, cant remember it to save my life. Did you do that to keep the rest of us from bumming?

[APPdiesel]

A little research before the game would have revealed a former Big Ten passing leader and a RB who averaged 100+ yards a game. We shouldn't have been surprised that they could move the ball.

There were plenty of us who did the research. Choose to focus on us instead of arguing with the "we're gonna win the super bowl" homers. I'll admit I bit, chewed, but didn't swallow the 25 point line. I thought it was possible but not probable we'd blow them out.

Now...let's all stop talking about Wyoming and start a new thread about Georgia State. Who wants to do the research?

twitter.com/diesel933

[EastHallApp]

We started off poorly last year with a loss to an FCS, but clearly we were a better team than our record showed at the time. Wyoming is in a very similar situation.

I can see that comparison, but I have never thought it was so much that we were better than our record showed as it was that we improved a lot in a hurry. I watched those first six games like the rest of you, and we were bad. Even so, we weren't quite as consistently bad as Wyoming - at least two of our losses were extremely close.

But yes, I could see them improving once their young players start to grow up.

[diehardapp18]

I'm a big Taylor fan and supporter but I will agree on one thing: he needs to start looking to his checkdowns more. Saturday especially it seemed like almost every pass he was locked in on one guy, and he was gonna throw it there no matter how many defenders were covering him or how open someone else was. I remember one third down in particular Cox snuck out of the backfield, Lamb could have dumped it to him for probably a big gain and a first down but instead he went deep and tried to make a much more difficult pass instead. This is a common mistake of young QB's though. I remember Cam Newton did this some in his first two seasons with the Panthers but he's really fixed that as of late. I expect Lamb to do the same. Just needs to go through his progressions more.

[AppSt94]

This is absolute definition of an armchair quarterback thread. Well played guys.

Wouldn't that be the purpose of a message board; for people to post their observations and their opinions?

What's funny is how quickly everyone is off Lamb even though these are all the same people who loved him after he replaced the starter last year. It was raining sideways Saturday, Tom Brady doesn't throw the ball well in those conditions. It just cracks me up that no one is ever ever happy with the quarterback position.

I agree, there is a vicious cycle among many on this board, and I suspect on many boards across the country that people like to point out the flaws of the QB after a loss or a closer than expected win. Last year after the Michigan game, people wanted Lamb to start because he gave us the best chance to win. Now he wins and we are nitpicking a teenager's game performance in horrible weather conditions.

[Apptiger]

Apptiger, The team is light years ahead of the first half of last year, no doubt. I actually thought we might give Clemson a better game...and we did play relatively well until the turnover bug bit us. As I see it and compare teams, right now I think APP finishes in the top 2 of the conference. We have some really good players in some positions. We cant help our strength of schedule and have done as expected, except give Clemson a better challenge. It has been a good tune up for the conference gauntlet coming.

What was the name of that beer that only you drank 30 years ago, cant remember it to save my life. Did you do that to keep the rest of us from bumming?

I used to switch it up some but your probably thinking of Tuborg Gold (poor man's Heineken). Danish import and stronger than your average Bud. Bought the first ones because they were cheap and I was broke. Not bad but had to be ice cold. And yes, someone asked for a beer one night, I offered and he said " I ain't drinking that "stuff". I knew right a way I had found the magic formula.

Is it Saturday yet?

[CVAPP]

I agree, there is a vicious cycle among many on this board, and I suspect on many boards across the country that people like to point out the flaws of the QB after a loss or a closer than expected win. Last year after the Michigan game, people wanted Lamb to start because he gave us the best chance to win. Now he wins and we are nitpicking a teenager's game performance in horrible weather conditions.

This. Some fans are never satisfied and it's not just around here.