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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by App91 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:43 am

asutrnr81 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
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AppinVA wrote:The Sun Belt needs to address this through a fine or official reprimand of Georgia State athletics.

For doing what exactly should he have a fine or reprimand?
For refusing to meet with the press after the game. It might only be Tommy, Steve and the kid from The Appalachian, but they are there to do the same job a reporter from the N&O is when he/she covers UNC-CHeat, or when someone from ESPN.com covers a game. Just because nobody from the AJC in his great media market chose to drive to Boone (maybe they did, but I didn't look for a story there), and just because his players were out hustled and he was out coached, doesn't mean he can skip out on his obligations. I'm sure CC heard from all three outlets and App Sports Information early this week. Or he, at least, should have.
I think this is a big deal. There should be a response from the SunBelt. He should not be allowed to get away with this. It is his obligation and RESPONSIBILITY to address the media after the game. ...as for the Harrow deal...that was interesting.

Was CC at the game? I did not see him before during or after and I stayed until our kids had finished their interviews with DJ. I can't remember name but the former asst. AD from App that went with Charlie was there, visible and talking to lots of people after the game.
Help me understand why it is a RESPONSIBILITY for someone to talk with the media. I do not get that and think that media people over-value themselves. Disagree completely. If i don't want to talk, i aint tailking. I agree with the merit of the talking when you win but not lose arguement. But the idea that a coach or player has to talk with a scribe is preposterous. Marshawn Lynch says hello.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by app87 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:30 am

asutrnr81 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:The Sun Belt needs to address this through a fine or official reprimand of Georgia State athletics.

For doing what exactly should he have a fine or reprimand?
For refusing to meet with the press after the game. It might only be Tommy, Steve and the kid from The Appalachian, but they are there to do the same job a reporter from the N&O is when he/she covers UNC-CHeat, or when someone from ESPN.com covers a game. Just because nobody from the AJC in his great media market chose to drive to Boone (maybe they did, but I didn't look for a story there), and just because his players were out hustled and he was out coached, doesn't mean he can skip out on his obligations. I'm sure CC heard from all three outlets and App Sports Information early this week. Or he, at least, should have.
I think this is a big deal. There should be a response from the SunBelt. He should not be allowed to get away with this. It is his obligation and RESPONSIBILITY to address the media after the game. ...as for the Harrow deal...that was interesting.

Was CC at the game? I did not see him before during or after and I stayed until our kids had finished their interviews with DJ. I can't remember name but the former asst. AD from App that went with Charlie was there, visible and talking to lots of people after the game.

Looked for him but did not see him either.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:40 am

App91 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:The Sun Belt needs to address this through a fine or official reprimand of Georgia State athletics.

For doing what exactly should he have a fine or reprimand?
For refusing to meet with the press after the game. It might only be Tommy, Steve and the kid from The Appalachian, but they are there to do the same job a reporter from the N&O is when he/she covers UNC-CHeat, or when someone from ESPN.com covers a game. Just because nobody from the AJC in his great media market chose to drive to Boone (maybe they did, but I didn't look for a story there), and just because his players were out hustled and he was out coached, doesn't mean he can skip out on his obligations. I'm sure CC heard from all three outlets and App Sports Information early this week. Or he, at least, should have.
I think this is a big deal. There should be a response from the SunBelt. He should not be allowed to get away with this. It is his obligation and RESPONSIBILITY to address the media after the game. ...as for the Harrow deal...that was interesting.

Was CC at the game? I did not see him before during or after and I stayed until our kids had finished their interviews with DJ. I can't remember name but the former asst. AD from App that went with Charlie was there, visible and talking to lots of people after the game.
Help me understand why it is a RESPONSIBILITY for someone to talk with the media. I do not get that and think that media people over-value themselves. Disagree completely. If i don't want to talk, i aint tailking. I agree with the merit of the talking when you win but not lose arguement. But the idea that a coach or player has to talk with a scribe is preposterous. Marshawn Lynch says hello.
Generally speaking, it's not a moral responsibility, but a contractual one. That's why Marshawn Lynch got fined for not talking to the media.

I don't know whether Sun Belt coaches are required by the league to meet with the media, though.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:42 am

T-Dog wrote:Here's an interesting aside to the game. Ryan Harrow was suspended for G-State's game Monday at Arkansas State by the school for accumulating six technicals so far this year. He got his sixth last Thursday. However Hunter was informed by Cobb hours before Saturday's game of the suspension. But since it was so close to tip off, they decided to wait until Monday.

FYI, App coaches and players have a combined zero technicals so far this year.
Harrow has always seemed like kind of an unusual kid, at least in the world of college athletics. Has been rumored to have emotional issues at every stop.

I've actually been glad to see him doing well on the smaller stage at GSU, but I guess he's still having some issues.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:03 pm

App91 wrote:
asutrnr81 wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:The Sun Belt needs to address this through a fine or official reprimand of Georgia State athletics.

For doing what exactly should he have a fine or reprimand?
For refusing to meet with the press after the game. It might only be Tommy, Steve and the kid from The Appalachian, but they are there to do the same job a reporter from the N&O is when he/she covers UNC-CHeat, or when someone from ESPN.com covers a game. Just because nobody from the AJC in his great media market chose to drive to Boone (maybe they did, but I didn't look for a story there), and just because his players were out hustled and he was out coached, doesn't mean he can skip out on his obligations. I'm sure CC heard from all three outlets and App Sports Information early this week. Or he, at least, should have.
I think this is a big deal. There should be a response from the SunBelt. He should not be allowed to get away with this. It is his obligation and RESPONSIBILITY to address the media after the game. ...as for the Harrow deal...that was interesting.

Was CC at the game? I did not see him before during or after and I stayed until our kids had finished their interviews with DJ. I can't remember name but the former asst. AD from App that went with Charlie was there, visible and talking to lots of people after the game.
Help me understand why it is a RESPONSIBILITY for someone to talk with the media. I do not get that and think that media people over-value themselves. Disagree completely. If i don't want to talk, i aint tailking. I agree with the merit of the talking when you win but not lose arguement. But the idea that a coach or player has to talk with a scribe is preposterous. Marshawn Lynch says hello.
One reason you talk to the media is when it comes time for postseason media awards, you want your player (and you) to have a fair shot at three votes for player and coach of the year. Safe to say, he ain't getting them from the Boone contingent, now.

You also don't piss off anyone who buys ink in 50 gallon drums and paper by the ton.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:26 pm

asu66 wrote:Mountaineers topple Panthers 74-69
Eaves leads App State with career-high 27 points

Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:52 pm
Tommy Bowman/Winston-Salem Journal

BOONE - On the surface, Appalachian State wasn’t facing an easy assignment Saturday in its attempt to end a four-game losing streak. But the Mountaineers dug deep and were opportunistic — knocking off Georgia State 74-69 at Holmes Center.

It was a significant victory for the Mountaineers — against the team picked to win the Sun Belt Conference after going 17-1 in league play last season, and against a team with an all-star trio of guards in Ryan Harrow, R.J. Hunter and Kevin Ware. And it came in front of the biggest home crowd of the season, a gathering of 2,622 that seemed to appreciate what they saw from a program trying to get its footing under a new coach and in a new league.

“They showed toughness for all 10 rounds today,” Jim Fox, the Mountaineers’ coach, said of his players. “They didn’t let adversity affect them today. They battled back and deserved this.”
The Mountaineers (5-10 overall, 2-4 Sun Belt) trailed by as many as 13 points. They hit just 37 percent of their shots —compared to Georgia State’s 58 — but found ways to win.

Tommy Spagnolo, the Mountaineers’ lone senior, supplied the go-ahead points with an emphatic dunk on a feed from Frank Eaves with 21 seconds left.

Eaves, a junior who played all 40 minutes and scored a career-high 27 points, said that he anticipated Georgia State expecting him to take a perimeter shot on that critical possession, and that a head fake provided an opening for a drive, which drew another defender and helped free Spagnolo.

“Tommy had been finishing excellent, so I had to get him the ball,” Eaves said.
Spagnolo said: “Frank did a great job drawing the defense, dumped it down and that’s an easy finish.”
Spagnolo’s finish was a no-doubter.

“Nobody stands for what App basketball should be about more than Tommy,” Fox said. “He’s tough. He just wills you to win.”

Georgia State (11-7, 4-3) had final opportunities but failed. Hunter missed a 3-point attempt with 6 seconds left. Then, after Spagnolo hit two free throws to boost the lead to 72-69, the Panthers had one last chance.

Fox said that he considered fouling, but credited his assistants for their scouting report and felt secure what Georgia State might try to do. He positioned defenders accordingly, and guessed right.
As it was, Ware’s inbounds attempt toward midcourt skipped through the legs of intended receiver Markus Crider and into the hands of Spagnolo.

“We got a little lucky there at the end, the guy went through the 5 hole, so we’ll take it,” Fox said. “We’ve earned some luck.”

Ron Hunter, the Panthers’ coach, didn’t want to comment after the game.
The Mountaineers offset the glaring gap in shooting percentage with 15 more field-goal attempts than the Panthers, largely as result of 17 offensive rebounds.

“You look at us, and we can be a little challenged offensively,” Fox said. “But when you get those second shots, it helps us and it’s deflating to the defense.”

Eaves and Chris Burgess gave the Mountaineers needed outside presence. They combined to go 12 of 23 from 3-point range against Georgia State’s zone defenses.

“We made 12 3s because they forced us to take 3s,” Fox said. “But we made them.”

Eaves was 8 of 14 from 3-point range. He had never made more than three in a college game.
“Honestly, I don’t think I’ve shot that well since I’ve been here,” Eaves said. “In high school, 3-point shooting was what I was known for.… We finally knocked down our shots like I knew we could.”
And, Fox said, the Mountaineers’ 16 assists for 22 field goals was “huge.”

The Panthers shot a remarkable 78 percent in the first half, but cooled to 36 percent in the second and scored on just four of their last 14 possessions.

Harrow led the Panthers with 21 points. Hunter added 16. Crider had 12 points and 10 rebounds, and Ware totaled five assists.

Spagnolo, who hit 12 of 13 free throws, scored 22 points. Burgess totaled 14 points and five assists, and Jake Babic had five assists.

“This is a great jump start,” Spagnolo said. “We’re headed back on the road now and this gives us great energy and great confidence.”

tbowman@wsjournal.com

GEORGIA STATE — Crider 5-7 2-2 12, Washington 0-2 2-4 2, Green 2-4 2-2 7, Hunter 5-10 5-6 16, Harrow 9-14 3-3 21, Ware 1-2 0-2 2, Dennis 1-1 0-0 2, Brown 1-2 0-2 3, Session 2-3 0-2 4. Totals 26-45 14-23 69.

APPALACHIAN STATE — Obacha 1-2 1-4 3, Spagnolo 5-11 12-13 22, Clarke 0-1 0-0 0, Burgess 4-9 2-2 14, Eaves 8-19 3-4 27, Goesling 0-0 0-0 0, Kinney 2-4 0-0 4, Kostic 1-3 0-0 2, Babic 0-5 0-1 0, Lawson 1-6 0-0 2. Totals 22-60 18-24 74.

Halftime — Georgia State 40-30. 3-Point Goals — Georgia State 3-9 (Brown 1-2, Green 1-3, Hunter 1-3, Harrow 0-1), Appalachian 12-29 (Eaves 8-14, Burgess 4-9, Clarke 0-1, Kostic 0-2, Babic 0-3). Fouled Out — None. Rebounds — Georgia State 30 (Crider 10), Appalachian 36 (Eaves, Spagnolo 6). Assists — Georgia State 8 (Ware 5), Appalachian 16 (Babic, Burgess 5). Total Fouls — Georgia State 24, Appalachian 20. Technical — Ware. A — 2,622.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:30 pm

AppinVA wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Here's an interesting aside to the game. Ryan Harrow was suspended for G-State's game Monday at Arkansas State by the school for accumulating six technicals so far this year. He got his sixth last Thursday. However Hunter was informed by Cobb hours before Saturday's game of the suspension. But since it was so close to tip off, they decided to wait until Monday.

FYI, App coaches and players have a combined zero technicals so far this year.
Sounds like ol' CC really wanted this one. :lol:
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

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asu66 wrote:Mountaineers topple Panthers 74-69
Eaves leads App State with career-high 27 points

Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:52 pm
Tommy Bowman/Winston-Salem Journal

BOONE - On the surface, Appalachian State wasn’t facing an easy assignment Saturday in its attempt to end a four-game losing streak. But the Mountaineers dug deep and were opportunistic — knocking off Georgia State 74-69 at Holmes Center.

It was a significant victory for the Mountaineers — against the team picked to win the Sun Belt Conference after going 17-1 in league play last season, and against a team with an all-star trio of guards in Ryan Harrow, R.J. Hunter and Kevin Ware. And it came in front of the biggest home crowd of the season, a gathering of 2,622 that seemed to appreciate what they saw from a program trying to get its footing under a new coach and in a new league.

“They showed toughness for all 10 rounds today,” Jim Fox, the Mountaineers’ coach, said of his players. “They didn’t let adversity affect them today. They battled back and deserved this.”
The Mountaineers (5-10 overall, 2-4 Sun Belt) trailed by as many as 13 points. They hit just 37 percent of their shots —compared to Georgia State’s 58 — but found ways to win.

Tommy Spagnolo, the Mountaineers’ lone senior, supplied the go-ahead points with an emphatic dunk on a feed from Frank Eaves with 21 seconds left.

Eaves, a junior who played all 40 minutes and scored a career-high 27 points, said that he anticipated Georgia State expecting him to take a perimeter shot on that critical possession, and that a head fake provided an opening for a drive, which drew another defender and helped free Spagnolo.

“Tommy had been finishing excellent, so I had to get him the ball,” Eaves said.
Spagnolo said: “Frank did a great job drawing the defense, dumped it down and that’s an easy finish.”
Spagnolo’s finish was a no-doubter.

“Nobody stands for what App basketball should be about more than Tommy,” Fox said. “He’s tough. He just wills you to win.”

Georgia State (11-7, 4-3) had final opportunities but failed. Hunter missed a 3-point attempt with 6 seconds left. Then, after Spagnolo hit two free throws to boost the lead to 72-69, the Panthers had one last chance.

Fox said that he considered fouling, but credited his assistants for their scouting report and felt secure what Georgia State might try to do. He positioned defenders accordingly, and guessed right.
As it was, Ware’s inbounds attempt toward midcourt skipped through the legs of intended receiver Markus Crider and into the hands of Spagnolo.

“We got a little lucky there at the end, the guy went through the 5 hole, so we’ll take it,” Fox said. “We’ve earned some luck.”

Ron Hunter, the Panthers’ coach, didn’t want to comment after the game.
The Mountaineers offset the glaring gap in shooting percentage with 15 more field-goal attempts than the Panthers, largely as result of 17 offensive rebounds.

“You look at us, and we can be a little challenged offensively,” Fox said. “But when you get those second shots, it helps us and it’s deflating to the defense.”

Eaves and Chris Burgess gave the Mountaineers needed outside presence. They combined to go 12 of 23 from 3-point range against Georgia State’s zone defenses.

“We made 12 3s because they forced us to take 3s,” Fox said. “But we made them.”

Eaves was 8 of 14 from 3-point range. He had never made more than three in a college game.
“Honestly, I don’t think I’ve shot that well since I’ve been here,” Eaves said. “In high school, 3-point shooting was what I was known for.… We finally knocked down our shots like I knew we could.”
And, Fox said, the Mountaineers’ 16 assists for 22 field goals was “huge.”

The Panthers shot a remarkable 78 percent in the first half, but cooled to 36 percent in the second and scored on just four of their last 14 possessions.

Harrow led the Panthers with 21 points. Hunter added 16. Crider had 12 points and 10 rebounds, and Ware totaled five assists.

Spagnolo, who hit 12 of 13 free throws, scored 22 points. Burgess totaled 14 points and five assists, and Jake Babic had five assists.

“This is a great jump start,” Spagnolo said. “We’re headed back on the road now and this gives us great energy and great confidence.”

tbowman@wsjournal.com

GEORGIA STATE — Crider 5-7 2-2 12, Washington 0-2 2-4 2, Green 2-4 2-2 7, Hunter 5-10 5-6 16, Harrow 9-14 3-3 21, Ware 1-2 0-2 2, Dennis 1-1 0-0 2, Brown 1-2 0-2 3, Session 2-3 0-2 4. Totals 26-45 14-23 69.

APPALACHIAN STATE — Obacha 1-2 1-4 3, Spagnolo 5-11 12-13 22, Clarke 0-1 0-0 0, Burgess 4-9 2-2 14, Eaves 8-19 3-4 27, Goesling 0-0 0-0 0, Kinney 2-4 0-0 4, Kostic 1-3 0-0 2, Babic 0-5 0-1 0, Lawson 1-6 0-0 2. Totals 22-60 18-24 74.

Halftime — Georgia State 40-30. 3-Point Goals — Georgia State 3-9 (Brown 1-2, Green 1-3, Hunter 1-3, Harrow 0-1), Appalachian 12-29 (Eaves 8-14, Burgess 4-9, Clarke 0-1, Kostic 0-2, Babic 0-3). Fouled Out — None. Rebounds — Georgia State 30 (Crider 10), Appalachian 36 (Eaves, Spagnolo 6). Assists — Georgia State 8 (Ware 5), Appalachian 16 (Babic, Burgess 5). Total Fouls — Georgia State 24, Appalachian 20. Technical — Ware. A — 2,622.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:37 pm

NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Here's an interesting aside to the game. Ryan Harrow was suspended for G-State's game Monday at Arkansas State by the school for accumulating six technicals so far this year. He got his sixth last Thursday. However Hunter was informed by Cobb hours before Saturday's game of the suspension. But since it was so close to tip off, they decided to wait until Monday.

FYI, App coaches and players have a combined zero technicals so far this year.
Sounds like ol' CC really wanted this one. :lol:
It's heresy on here to diss Charlie Cobb, doncha know?.
Wrong again, but you keep believing that. Much like you believe the Lameley years were the good ol days.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by NewApp » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:41 pm

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NewApp wrote:
asu66 wrote:Mountaineers topple Panthers 74-69
Eaves leads App State with career-high 27 points

Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:52 pm
Tommy Bowman/Winston-Salem Journal

BOONE - On the surface, Appalachian State wasn’t facing an easy assignment Saturday in its attempt to end a four-game losing streak. But the Mountaineers dug deep and were opportunistic — knocking off Georgia State 74-69 at Holmes Center.

It was a significant victory for the Mountaineers — against the team picked to win the Sun Belt Conference after going 17-1 in league play last season, and against a team with an all-star trio of guards in Ryan Harrow, R.J. Hunter and Kevin Ware. And it came in front of the biggest home crowd of the season, a gathering of 2,622 that seemed to appreciate what they saw from a program trying to get its footing under a new coach and in a new league.

“They showed toughness for all 10 rounds today,” Jim Fox, the Mountaineers’ coach, said of his players. “They didn’t let adversity affect them today. They battled back and deserved this.”
The Mountaineers (5-10 overall, 2-4 Sun Belt) trailed by as many as 13 points. They hit just 37 percent of their shots —compared to Georgia State’s 58 — but found ways to win.

Tommy Spagnolo, the Mountaineers’ lone senior, supplied the go-ahead points with an emphatic dunk on a feed from Frank Eaves with 21 seconds left.

Eaves, a junior who played all 40 minutes and scored a career-high 27 points, said that he anticipated Georgia State expecting him to take a perimeter shot on that critical possession, and that a head fake provided an opening for a drive, which drew another defender and helped free Spagnolo.

“Tommy had been finishing excellent, so I had to get him the ball,” Eaves said.
Spagnolo said: “Frank did a great job drawing the defense, dumped it down and that’s an easy finish.”
Spagnolo’s finish was a no-doubter.

“Nobody stands for what App basketball should be about more than Tommy,” Fox said. “He’s tough. He just wills you to win.”

Georgia State (11-7, 4-3) had final opportunities but failed. Hunter missed a 3-point attempt with 6 seconds left. Then, after Spagnolo hit two free throws to boost the lead to 72-69, the Panthers had one last chance.

Fox said that he considered fouling, but credited his assistants for their scouting report and felt secure what Georgia State might try to do. He positioned defenders accordingly, and guessed right.
As it was, Ware’s inbounds attempt toward midcourt skipped through the legs of intended receiver Markus Crider and into the hands of Spagnolo.

“We got a little lucky there at the end, the guy went through the 5 hole, so we’ll take it,” Fox said. “We’ve earned some luck.”

Ron Hunter, the Panthers’ coach, didn’t want to comment after the game.
The Mountaineers offset the glaring gap in shooting percentage with 15 more field-goal attempts than the Panthers, largely as result of 17 offensive rebounds.

“You look at us, and we can be a little challenged offensively,” Fox said. “But when you get those second shots, it helps us and it’s deflating to the defense.”

Eaves and Chris Burgess gave the Mountaineers needed outside presence. They combined to go 12 of 23 from 3-point range against Georgia State’s zone defenses.

“We made 12 3s because they forced us to take 3s,” Fox said. “But we made them.”

Eaves was 8 of 14 from 3-point range. He had never made more than three in a college game.
“Honestly, I don’t think I’ve shot that well since I’ve been here,” Eaves said. “In high school, 3-point shooting was what I was known for.… We finally knocked down our shots like I knew we could.”
And, Fox said, the Mountaineers’ 16 assists for 22 field goals was “huge.”

The Panthers shot a remarkable 78 percent in the first half, but cooled to 36 percent in the second and scored on just four of their last 14 possessions.

Harrow led the Panthers with 21 points. Hunter added 16. Crider had 12 points and 10 rebounds, and Ware totaled five assists.

Spagnolo, who hit 12 of 13 free throws, scored 22 points. Burgess totaled 14 points and five assists, and Jake Babic had five assists.

“This is a great jump start,” Spagnolo said. “We’re headed back on the road now and this gives us great energy and great confidence.”

tbowman@wsjournal.com

GEORGIA STATE — Crider 5-7 2-2 12, Washington 0-2 2-4 2, Green 2-4 2-2 7, Hunter 5-10 5-6 16, Harrow 9-14 3-3 21, Ware 1-2 0-2 2, Dennis 1-1 0-0 2, Brown 1-2 0-2 3, Session 2-3 0-2 4. Totals 26-45 14-23 69.

APPALACHIAN STATE — Obacha 1-2 1-4 3, Spagnolo 5-11 12-13 22, Clarke 0-1 0-0 0, Burgess 4-9 2-2 14, Eaves 8-19 3-4 27, Goesling 0-0 0-0 0, Kinney 2-4 0-0 4, Kostic 1-3 0-0 2, Babic 0-5 0-1 0, Lawson 1-6 0-0 2. Totals 22-60 18-24 74.

Halftime — Georgia State 40-30. 3-Point Goals — Georgia State 3-9 (Brown 1-2, Green 1-3, Hunter 1-3, Harrow 0-1), Appalachian 12-29 (Eaves 8-14, Burgess 4-9, Clarke 0-1, Kostic 0-2, Babic 0-3). Fouled Out — None. Rebounds — Georgia State 30 (Crider 10), Appalachian 36 (Eaves, Spagnolo 6). Assists — Georgia State 8 (Ware 5), Appalachian 16 (Babic, Burgess 5). Total Fouls — Georgia State 24, Appalachian 20. Technical — Ware. A — 2,622.

Reminder, one MMB member insists that we use links to Tommy's articles rather than cutting and pasting. Personally, I prefer cutting and pasting.
Of course you do. No reason to show the writer, nor the business that gives said writer a paycheck, some love.
So why didn't you point that out to Chuck, (asu66), as you have done to many others on here, Richmond App?
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:44 pm

Easy. As the song goes, I'm not as good as I once was.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

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AppinVA wrote:Easy. As the song goes, I'm not as good as I once was.
Me either, but the version I recall says, "But I'm as good once as I ever was."
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:56 pm

Here's how it works, guys.

Every newspaper charts page views. Every sports editor worth his or her salt pays attention. If, say Tommy Bowman's stories about App get a ton of page views, then the sports editor at the Journal is likely to assign more stories about App. We cut our own throats by not linking to the source.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

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AppGrad78 wrote:Here's how it works, guys. Every newspaper charts page views. Every sports editor worth his or her salt pays attention. If, say Tommy Bowman's stories about App get a ton of page views, then the sports editor at the Journal is more likely to assign more stories about App. We cut our own throats by not linking to the source.
What about linking as well as cut and pasting a paragraph or two? Does that negate the hits on the link for Tommy?
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:07 am

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AppGrad78 wrote:Here's how it works, guys. Every newspaper charts page views. Every sports editor worth his or her salt pays attention. If, say Tommy Bowman's stories about App get a ton of page views, then the sports editor at the Journal is more likely to assign more stories about App. We cut our own throats by not linking to the source.
What about linking as well as cut and pasting a paragraph or two? Does that negate the hits on the link for Tommy?
Good question. Bloggers do it all the time. I guess it depends on how much of the story is posted and how much incentive the reader has to follow the link. I'd say as long as you don't remove the incentive, it's OK. I occasionally do it that way, but you want to be careful that you' haven't eliminated the reason to visit the website.

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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:08 am

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AppinVA wrote:Easy. As the song goes, I'm not as good as I once was.
Me either, but the version I recall says, "But I'm as good once as I ever was."
That once was likely...once upon a time. Don't think I don't know what you're hinting around at, and be assured, I wish I would have pointed Chuck's cut-and-paste out on Sunday morning.

I guess things are no longer Easy as Sunday Morning, either.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:09 am

AppGrad78 wrote:
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AppGrad78 wrote:Here's how it works, guys. Every newspaper charts page views. Every sports editor worth his or her salt pays attention. If, say Tommy Bowman's stories about App get a ton of page views, then the sports editor at the Journal is more likely to assign more stories about App. We cut our own throats by not linking to the source.
What about linking as well as cut and pasting a paragraph or two? Does that negate the hits on the link for Tommy?
Good question. Bloggers do it all the time. I guess it depends on how much of the story is posted and how much incentive the reader has to follow the link. I'd say as long as you don't remove the incentive, it's OK. I occasionally do it that way, but you want to be careful that you' haven't eliminated the reason to visit the website.
Two or three graphs and a link is optimal.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by NewApp » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:04 am

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T-Dog wrote:Here's an interesting aside to the game. Ryan Harrow was suspended for G-State's game Monday at Arkansas State by the school for accumulating six technicals so far this year. He got his sixth last Thursday. However Hunter was informed by Cobb hours before Saturday's game of the suspension. But since it was so close to tip off, they decided to wait until Monday.

FYI, App coaches and players have a combined zero technicals so far this year.
Sounds like ol' CC really wanted this one. :lol:
It's heresy on here to diss Charlie Cobb, doncha know?.
Wrong again, but you keep believing that. Much like you believe the Lameley years were the good ol days.
Please show me where I have said specifically the days when Roachel Laney's term as AD were the "good ol' days."

On the other hand, I must say all the years I have been following App (pre 1963 to the present) have been the good old days in some way or other as I have always found something good about EVERY era and every Mountaineer sport.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by AppinVA » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:18 am

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AppinVA wrote:
NewApp wrote:
AppinVA wrote:
T-Dog wrote:Here's an interesting aside to the game. Ryan Harrow was suspended for G-State's game Monday at Arkansas State by the school for accumulating six technicals so far this year. He got his sixth last Thursday. However Hunter was informed by Cobb hours before Saturday's game of the suspension. But since it was so close to tip off, they decided to wait until Monday.

FYI, App coaches and players have a combined zero technicals so far this year.
Sounds like ol' CC really wanted this one. :lol:
It's heresy on here to diss Charlie Cobb, doncha know?.
Wrong again, but you keep believing that. Much like you believe the Lameley years were the good ol days.
Please show me where I have said specifically the days when Roachel Laney's term as AD were the "good ol' days."

On the other hand, I must say all the years I have been following App (pre 1963 to the present) have been the good old days in some way or other as I have always found something good about EVERY era and every Mountaineer sport.
Please show me where I said its heresy to diss Charlie Cobb.

I'm not going back to the old Delphi board and pay to get into the archives, and you are smart enough to not come out and say that exact phrase in verbatim. It's more of a body of work thing.
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Re: Tommy Bowman (WSJ) Mountaineers topple Ga State

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:37 am

AppGrad78 wrote:Here's how it works, guys.

Every newspaper charts page views. Every sports editor worth his or her salt pays attention. If, say Tommy Bowman's stories about App get a ton of page views, then the sports editor at the Journal is likely to assign more stories about App. We cut our own throats by not linking to the source.
That's the main reason for providing a link.

A secondary one is so that we all don't have to scroll through individual posts that take up 1.5 entire screens every time someone quotes the OP.

Also, I know that with premium content (i.e., ESPN Insider, Scout/Rivals/247 premium articles), there are copyright rules against sharing full or nearly full article text. Not sure if that applies to newspapers (which typically allow nonsubscribers a few free article views per month), but it's something else to consider.

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