We need a good offensive coordinator

[CoachRob]

I’m not sure I buy the idea that DL is a bad play caller.

My issue is with our QB play. In my 25+ years watching App St football, that was the worst QB room we’ve had, relative to our competition. It was a huge red flag we didn’t have a starter named/known until the first snap of the season. For the record, I was hoping our starter was going to be Wilson for Game 1.

I have no idea what we will do at QB now, but DL has to be scrambling. If I were him, I’m taking a long look at the FCS level for a proven winner/starter that we can lure away with our NIL that FCS levels can’t compete with.

I'm going to agree with this. I can not point to a specific moment where DLo did a horrible job in play calling this year. However, I can point to specific moments when certain players didn't execute.

With the loss of a couple key OL early combined with poor QB play, I thought offense was somewhat limited in it's ability and DLo did well with what he had. Especially when Dubinion & Cummings got hurt, play calling became very difficult to what playbook looked like at the start of the year.

So all season Loggains called flawless games and it was 100% on the players for any failures? Doesn’t that also fall on coaching if players aren’t executing? It’s ok to say Loggains was on the job training, saying he did a great job, but the players failed him all season seems like not the best take either when it’s his team

Does any coach call a flawless game? Or any player play a perfect game? If you find either, you have found the National Champion.

I do not find it reasonable to put most blame for the players not executing on the coach in his 1st year. It takes a while to change bad habits. (Not saying previous staff created bad habits, just pointing out changes take time). There needs to be a period of grace before blame can be given.

I can specifically pin point moments where player's did not execute directly leading to a lose. Where are the specific moments where DLo lost us a game with his play calling???

Go back and read through the game threads, there are many examples of objective bad play calls made during the game. Asking for specific ones months afterwards is a difficult ask as we tend to forget things. But I know that during the games, the board would light up when he made bad calls. Not saying the reactions were always appropriate, but it will give you plenty of the examples that you seek.

Yes, I'm sure a bunch of arm chair QBs expressing their subjective opinions in play calling with their displeasure when things didn't go Apps way in the heat of the moment are great examples of "objectively bad play calling" to support ones argument.