So Miss discussion

[Seattleapp]

We out gained them by almost a hundred yards. You can make an argument that the three turnovers were 28 points. It’s on the players. Poor execution, decision making , concentration? We were in a position to take control early and literally gave it away. What happened after Swann went down is another conversation.

Isn’t that coaching?

Dude get a grip. We can go around in circles on this. We all said it was all coaching last year so sure. Some of its coaching.

The difference is this is Loggains first year.

Again nothing personal but I didn’t know we got rid of Clark to break a dude in. I actually agree with the premise but I thought app
Didn’t settle for Mediocrity

Good grief dude. We out gained So.Miss by almost 100 yards. All 3 ints were in the red zone (so took scores off table for us)..The 2nd one (returned for a TD) was a weird play off the turf.
Yes, 5 has got to take care of the ball better, however, we basically dominated the 1st half except the scoreboard...which is key...I get it...
Once 11 came into the game, So. Miss. knew what we had...a true freshman at QB. They had 7 or 8 guys in the box... pressuring a QB that probably had zero reps with the first team offense during the week

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

[BambooRdApp]

Isn’t that coaching?

Dude get a grip. We can go around in circles on this. We all said it was all coaching last year so sure. Some of its coaching.

The difference is this is Loggains first year.

Again nothing personal but I didn’t know we got rid of Clark to break a dude in. I actually agree with the premise but I thought app
Didn’t settle for Mediocrity

Good grief dude. We out gained So.Miss by almost 100 yards. All 3 ints were in the red zone (so took scores off table for us)..The 2nd one (returned for a TD) was a weird play off the turf.
Yes, 5 has got to take care of the ball better, however, we basically dominated the 1st half except the scoreboard...which is key...I get it...
Once 11 came into the game, So. Miss. knew what we had...a true freshman at QB. They had 7 or 8 guys in the box... pressuring a QB that probably had zero reps with the first team offense during the week

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

Okay. Sure it is

[Seattleapp]

Dude get a grip. We can go around in circles on this. We all said it was all coaching last year so sure. Some of its coaching.

The difference is this is Loggains first year.

Again nothing personal but I didn’t know we got rid of Clark to break a dude in. I actually agree with the premise but I thought app
Didn’t settle for Mediocrity

Good grief dude. We out gained So.Miss by almost 100 yards. All 3 ints were in the red zone (so took scores off table for us)..The 2nd one (returned for a TD) was a weird play off the turf.
Yes, 5 has got to take care of the ball better, however, we basically dominated the 1st half except the scoreboard...which is key...I get it...
Once 11 came into the game, So. Miss. knew what we had...a true freshman at QB. They had 7 or 8 guys in the box... pressuring a QB that probably had zero reps with the first team offense during the week

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

Okay. Sure it is

What else is it?

[ASUFan4863]

Again nothing personal but I didn’t know we got rid of Clark to break a dude in. I actually agree with the premise but I thought app
Didn’t settle for Mediocrity

Good grief dude. We out gained So.Miss by almost 100 yards. All 3 ints were in the red zone (so took scores off table for us)..The 2nd one (returned for a TD) was a weird play off the turf.
Yes, 5 has got to take care of the ball better, however, we basically dominated the 1st half except the scoreboard...which is key...I get it...
Once 11 came into the game, So. Miss. knew what we had...a true freshman at QB. They had 7 or 8 guys in the box... pressuring a QB that probably had zero reps with the first team offense during the week

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

Okay. Sure it is

What else is it?

How bout just piss poor execution? The center dribbles the snap to Swann and then Swann just throws an ill advised pass to the defender. Neither one of those guys are coached to do that.

Swann makes the right read to Dubinon but makes a bad throw and the ball bounces right into the hands of a defender to go the other way.

Swann is being pressured (the real story of the night if you ask me) and floats a ball into double coverage for a pick.

None of those plays are because of coaching. It is a mixture of 85% bad execution and 15% bad luck.

[Seattleapp]

Good grief dude. We out gained So.Miss by almost 100 yards. All 3 ints were in the red zone (so took scores off table for us)..The 2nd one (returned for a TD) was a weird play off the turf.
Yes, 5 has got to take care of the ball better, however, we basically dominated the 1st half except the scoreboard...which is key...I get it...
Once 11 came into the game, So. Miss. knew what we had...a true freshman at QB. They had 7 or 8 guys in the box... pressuring a QB that probably had zero reps with the first team offense during the week

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

Okay. Sure it is

What else is it?

How bout just piss poor execution? The center dribbles the snap to Swann and then Swann just throws an ill advised pass to the defender. Neither one of those guys are coached to do that.

Swann makes the right read to Dubinon but makes a bad throw and the ball bounces right into the hands of a defender to go the other way.

Swann is being pressured (the real story of the night if you ask me) and floats a ball into double coverage for a pick.

None of those plays are because of coaching. It is a mixture of 85% bad execution and 15% bad luck.

Completely fair. Don’t disagree at all. Putting a true fresh in over his head when you may win with an experienced 5th year not acceptable. App needs to win now. This isn’t a minor league baseball team

[ASUFan4863]

Again. Thats two weeks in a row we were the “better” team but looked bad. I am behind App forever. But this is problematic. And it’s coaching 100%

Okay. Sure it is

What else is it?

How bout just piss poor execution? The center dribbles the snap to Swann and then Swann just throws an ill advised pass to the defender. Neither one of those guys are coached to do that.

Swann makes the right read to Dubinon but makes a bad throw and the ball bounces right into the hands of a defender to go the other way.

Swann is being pressured (the real story of the night if you ask me) and floats a ball into double coverage for a pick.

None of those plays are because of coaching. It is a mixture of 85% bad execution and 15% bad luck.

Completely fair. Don’t disagree at all. Putting a true fresh in over his head when you may win with an experienced 5th year not acceptable. App needs to win now. This isn’t a minor league baseball team

All summer the battle has been between Swann, Kohl and Gillon. Kohl was hurt so it just makes sense to go to Gillon if you actually believe in him as they do. Whether or not he should have pulled earlier is a valid question.

[Apptiger]

Would’ve liked to see what Wiles could’ve done a little sooner, but I’m sure he’s not playing the first string defense.

This, he actually looked better than the other QBs to me. Granted it was late and probably not against their first team but his timing and accuracy seemed better.
Either way, they were much faster than us, played harder than us and wanted it more than us.

We have to stop beating ourselves.

[AppState03]

I’m not one that is too keen on excuses. The bottom line is that App State football was special at one time. Since 2019, there have been several misfires and only diminishing moments of the magic that App State football once embodied. It’s just sad to watch.

I am not saying the time is now, but if things don’t look better by the end of the season, then I believe that someone needs to call for a vote of non-confidence in the AD, Doug Gillin. He is the top dog and the only puzzle piece in the declining years that has not been switched out. The buck starts and stops with him.

Anyway, these are my thoughts. They are unsolicited but I wanted to throw in my two cents. I knew this season was going to be rough but I hoped I could see something better for the future. Game 2, against Lindenwood, was embarrassing even with a win. I had never heard of that school before and they came into the Rock and made it WAY TOO Close for comfort. The game today against Southern Miss was another embarrassment, but we lost this one. I don’t care about excuses. We outgained them by 100 yds, whatever. The only thing that matters is the number of points on the scoreboard and if a W or L goes into the win/loss column.