Looking Ahead- Lindenwood

[AppDub]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

[fjblair]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

I agree, and I very much like Shawn Clark.

[hapapp]

Can we judge this team on its own merits without having to reference everything to last year? Yesterday's bizarre performance is not leading any sane person to suggest that we need to have the previous staff back. It seems irrelevant and, frankly impossible to know, how last year's team would have fared yesterday. I don't care how last year's team would have performed, I'm interested in how this year's team performs.

[Pikapp79]

I know it's early but I'm starting to worry about Coach. The players seem more interested in seeking the limelight then they are in playing good fundamental football. Way too many personal foul's, not protecting the ball, and trying to thread the football where it doesn't belong. They're playing for themselves, not the team.

We no longer have the App football traditions we're used to, neither the Coach or the players.

I'm hoping Jerry Moore will help the Coach understand what App's about.

What App football is about is dead and gone. Good players will leave for more money and rebuild every offseason. Rinse and repeat.

[JTApps1]

I know it's early but I'm starting to worry about Coach. The players seem more interested in seeking the limelight then they are in playing good fundamental football. Way too many personal foul's, not protecting the ball, and trying to thread the football where it doesn't belong. They're playing for themselves, not the team.

We no longer have the App football traditions we're used to, neither the Coach or the players.

I'm hoping Jerry Moore will help the Coach understand what App's about.

These same complaints were made under Moore, Satterfield, and Clark. I remember Armanti catching a lot of flack for his flip into the end zone against Richmond.

[Black Saturday]

As disappointing and concerning as the game was, I’m glad we decided to stink in Week 2 rather than in Week 1. The effort yesterday would get us embarrassed against Southern Miss. I’m glad the game didn’t have another 5 minutes or we would have been in trouble. 4th and long was no problem for our opponent. A lot of work to do this week and we’d better cut out the turnovers or we are in for a long season. 1-0. Conference time. Go App!

We are favored by 1.5

I think our defense will keep us in all of our games this year.

[bcoach]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

[yosef69]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

I mean wtf are you talking about.

If Clark wasn’t ready don’t sign the offer. Simple as that

[bcoach]

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

I mean wtf are you talking about.

If Clark wasn’t ready don’t sign the offer. Simple as that

SMH

[Bigdaddyg1]

Just want to ask. If we had gone say, 10-2 last year, maybe won the CCG and our bowl game would our best players have returned to “run it back” or would they have bolted for the cash? No chance of the first one. Are we ever going to have that guy who stayed 4-5 yrs, achieved greatness and bled black and gold? Nope probably not

[311neers]

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

I mean wtf are you talking about.

If Clark wasn’t ready don’t sign the offer. Simple as that

The comment wasn’t that deep. I was talking about Sloan and the defense…

I do find it interesting though since someone else brought it up, that we can’t talk about Clark 9 months after he was canned but we were blaming Drinkwitz and to an extent Satterfield in 2024 for our struggles, 5 years after he left. Weird.

[WVAPPeer]

The one thing in my mind regarding Coach Clark that I will always consider #1 is beating Texas A&M and having GameDay come to Boone --- something I NEVER thought I would see -

[311neers]

The one thing in my mind regarding Coach Clark that I will always consider #1 is beating Texas A&M and having GameDay come to Boone --- something I NEVER thought I would see -

Jimbo Fisher owes Clark and co. some of his buyout money.

[yosef69]

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

I mean wtf are you talking about.

If Clark wasn’t ready don’t sign the offer. Simple as that

The comment wasn’t that deep. I was talking about Sloan and the defense…

I do find it interesting though since someone else brought it up, that we can’t talk about Clark 9 months after he was canned but we were blaming Drinkwitz and to an extent Satterfield in 2024 for our struggles, 5 years after he left. Weird.

Nah man I was responding to a different poster. Blaming Gillin for making Clark the coach. Like he forced Clark and Clark had no say in the matter

[Bigdaddyg1]

I’m sure the list of college coordinators who interview for head coaching positions and say no thanks I’m not ready would be extremely short. Clark didn’t get the job done based on his boss’s expectations not based on the expectations of crazy fans who post on message boards.

[Saint3333]

Revisionist history isn’t going to pass here.

Clark didn’t get the job done based on HIS expectations.

For people that supposedly want everyone to move on you’re attempting to gaslight a portion of the posters here. Let’s not start that again.

[Pikapp79]

Wish Clark all the best. Glad it’s somewhere else.

[Black Saturday]

Wish Clark all the best. Glad it’s somewhere else.

Glad i don't have to watch the incessant spitting anymore.

[AppDub]

That was bad. But we lose that game last year in my opinion.

What’s the point of that statement?

The point is that some just can't let go of their hatred for a guy who loves this school but just was not ready.

I see it differently. There wasn't any hatred in that post, just a lack of confidence in the last regime to pull out a win in a weird game like yesterday. Just because you think one leadership group is better equipped to deal with certain situations, doesn't inject hating the other one into the equation. I loved Clark as a person and appreciated our interactions, but still agree with the original poster that we probably would have lost this game last year.

If you love a guy or just like the guy, you don't take every opportunity to slap him. If people really need to continue to degrade the situation then why not blame the right guy. Why not blame the guy who set him up to fail. The guy who hired an Oline coach to be a head coach well before he was ready. Did he need to go? yes he did. Should he have been put in that position to begin with? Hell no. That dead horse has been beat up, ground up, and incinerated. If folks love, like, or respect him at all, then why can't they just drop it. I know the answer and so do you. This is in no way directed at you AppDub. It is just a general statement to all the folks who just can't leave it alone. It just isn't necessary in any conversation unless people are trying to make that dig over and over. There is also no way in the world to claim who would win a game that was never played.

Absolutely agree with you slamming a guy is not the way to handle things. My point was that 311neers wasn't slamming our old coach, simply stating he felt the outcome would have been different last year. No offense taken. Appreciate your well thought out response.

[App91]

The drops and fumbles are very concerning. But I’m becoming concerned with our QBs timing, the throws continue to be half a second slow as he goes through his reads.

Our secondary will get exploited by above average QBs.

What reads? He locks on 1st option, half the time 3rd option is wide open on opposite side of the field. Agree with throws being late, too high, behind etc. accuracy is an issue. even completed balls are tough as they dont allow for many YAC

He does have an issue with locking on which he didn’t have against Charlotte. This is another reason I believe that these plays being run were not the same plays repped over and over again in practice. The entire offense seemed out of sync to me and that’s why I’m hoping that DL was just running base everything, resulting in the miscues.


Dubinion needs to be carrying the ball with two hands in traffic though. That much is clear. I assume that would give him more power to run behind his pads too.

We did notice it a bit against UNCC, not as much as Saturday. Did see coaches working with 7 during a time out on holding with 2 hands.