Appalachian Energy Conference 2025

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

If you can get China on board we can talk.

My suggestion is to not purchase products from countries that you think have a horrible record on things you care about. One consumer is not going to make much of a dent in things but you can go to bed every night standing by your value set.

And China is doing a lot. They are moving very quickly in the EV auto area. They do a lot with electrified trains and that is a huge positive for the environment. They can do more, clearly, and I say none of that as a supporter of China.

Also I am not one to do bad things just because others are doing bad things. My parents taught me to do right regardless of what others are doing. I think that should and can extend to nations as well. We buy a ton of stuff from China. If that market dried up they would change I am sure. At the end of the day China is a very capitalist country. The problem is the western world has a relationship with China like an addict does for a hit of meth.

[AppDub]

Good thing birds can't vote. Wind turbines would be banned.

If birds are really worried they need to spend their time banning house cats that are let out to roam. Blaming wind turbines is THE MAN's way of distracting birds from the real killer of birds.

I'm sure they would ban house cats too if given the chance. THE MAN can't keep them down.

[ASU3432Mi]

Drill baby Drill!!!

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Drill baby Drill!!!

I am sure you are of an age where the really severe effects of climate change will not be a concern for you as you will be dead. That is true for me and I bet all but maybe the youngest of posters on this board.

But I am curious when I see this attitude as to the status of children or grandchildren. I just can't get my head wrapped around the idea of having no real concern for real problems that will be faced by future generations.

[Saint3333]

Maybe we don't have the impact on warming/cooling you think we do.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Maybe we don't have the impact on warming/cooling you think we do.

Nearly every bit of peer-reviewed science supports anthropogenic climate change.

Nutation in earth's orbit and solar output are not supported by evidence.

The earth certainly does go through climate cycles and nutation and solar output play some small part it would seem but it does not explain what we are observing. Earth processes do release climate change gases into the atmosphere but at much lower levels than humans do by burning fossil fuels. The overwhelming body of evidence suggests it is the collective actions of humans doing this to ourselves.

Some of this research goes back close to 200 years and seems to be consistent with the findings as we learn more.

I know I am not going to convince you at this point in time. I do ask you to read about the history and current research of climate science.

[Saint3333]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

[AppWyo]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

Ice age prediction in the 1970's: https://globalwarmingbasics.org/2016/07 ... the-1970s/

Everyone just wants to be right...

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

That statement is Georgia Southern level of ignorance.

AAAS seems pretty reputable. https://www.science.org/content/article ... al-warming

Problem with you taking the over is you are not going to deal with the outcome.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

Ice age prediction in the 1970's: https://globalwarmingbasics.org/2016/07 ... the-1970s/

Everyone just wants to be right...

You did not read this article did you?

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

In today's Greensboro News and Record an article about carbon in the atmosphere.

Page A2 of 25 June 2025 edition. Basically there is not enough land on earth to plant trees to remove the carbon that needs to be remvoed. And if there were enough land it would cost over $10.8 trillion and the market value of the 200 largest oil/coal/fossil fuels is only $7.1 trillion.

[AtlAppMan]

For a good update on Global warming now Climate Change watch Joe Rogan interview with Bernie Sanders recently.

[Saint3333]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

That statement is Georgia Southern level of ignorance.

AAAS seems pretty reputable. https://www.science.org/content/article ... al-warming

Problem with you taking the over is you are not going to deal with the outcome.

Sure I do, my children bare the brunt of failed energy policies as we become Europe.

But thanks for the insult, you'll not see me deflect in that manner.

The climate crew is wrong every time they predict something will happen by XXXX year. That isn't ignorance, that's factual.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

That statement is Georgia Southern level of ignorance.

AAAS seems pretty reputable. https://www.science.org/content/article ... al-warming

Problem with you taking the over is you are not going to deal with the outcome.

Sure I do, my children bare the brunt of failed energy policies as we become Europe.

But thanks for the insult, you'll not see me deflect in that manner.

The climate crew is wrong every time they predict something will happen by XXXX year. That isn't ignorance, that's factual.

Where are you seeing predictions that are incorrect? Every time is a very strong set of words to use but even if I don't take you literally in that what predictions have been proven wrong in some wholesale manner that was just wrong and not a matter of degree.

And if you are wrong you are wrong. That is not an insult unless you want it to be an insult. If you want to stand on a side that has no real proof then take my statement as a matter of pride.

[appstate24]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

That statement is Georgia Southern level of ignorance.

AAAS seems pretty reputable. https://www.science.org/content/article ... al-warming

Problem with you taking the over is you are not going to deal with the outcome.

Sure I do, my children bare the brunt of failed energy policies as we become Europe.

But thanks for the insult, you'll not see me deflect in that manner.

The climate crew is wrong every time they predict something will happen by XXXX year. That isn't ignorance, that's factual.

Yep, similar to Covid the goalpost is constantly moving. Somehow people are still convinced that higher taxes and some other BS programs are going to fix the issues.

[Saint3333]

How many times has the predicted date that the polar ice caps would be gone been pushed back.

This is similar to the control the population narrative of the 1960's, then food production was increased solving the problem.

Energy will be solved as well, just get out of the way and let the market work.

[mike87]

The climate advocates biggest obstacle is the hypocrisy of their political class. Common sense is on their side, albeit at a much-reduced rate than I think they like to admit. The sea-level rising advocates building ocean side mansions and flying to rallies on private jets is a terrible look. But if you don't believe burning fossil fuels is bad, take a few huffs from a diesel exhaust. It can't be good.

Point is all moot though, we will nuke ourselves out of existence way before climate change can get us. Meanwhile, enjoy the warmer weather.

[AppWyo]

Nor you I. Notice I said maybe, you can't do the same.

Predictions by the climate community have been proven wrong for 30+ years. I'm taking the over.

Ice age prediction in the 1970's: https://globalwarmingbasics.org/2016/07 ... the-1970s/

Everyone just wants to be right...

You did not read this article did you?

Yes, I read the article. That is why I said, "Everyone just wants to be right..." I do not post links to articles that I do not read. That would be irresponsible.

[ASU84]

The climate advocates biggest obstacle is the hypocrisy of their political class. Common sense is on their side, albeit at a much-reduced rate than I think they like to admit. The sea-level rising advocates building ocean side mansions and flying to rallies on private jets is a terrible look. But if you don't believe burning fossil fuels is bad, take a few huffs from a diesel exhaust. It can't be good.

Point is all moot though, we will nuke ourselves out of existence way before climate change can get us. Meanwhile, enjoy the warmer weather.

I think not. It was 101 in Lexington, NC today with a heat index of 108. I have no problem sweating in 75 degree weather much less 101.

[mike87]

The climate advocates biggest obstacle is the hypocrisy of their political class. Common sense is on their side, albeit at a much-reduced rate than I think they like to admit. The sea-level rising advocates building ocean side mansions and flying to rallies on private jets is a terrible look. But if you don't believe burning fossil fuels is bad, take a few huffs from a diesel exhaust. It can't be good.

Point is all moot though, we will nuke ourselves out of existence way before climate change can get us. Meanwhile, enjoy the warmer weather.

I think not. It was 101 in Lexington, NC today with a heat index of 108. I have no problem sweating in 75 degree weather much less 101.

Folks in the mountains and at the coast are waiting for a reply about choosing to live in an armpit...but I won't do that.