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NIL and future of NCAACF

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by t4pizza » Wed May 21, 2025 10:17 am

I wonder aloud how the schools all signing an agreement to make rules and enforce them is any different from a monopolistic argument than the NCAA that did the same exact thing. Unless this organization allows for some type of collective bargaining from the players, it is still going to violate anti trust laws. While the House agreement (if it gets completely approved) can deal with current and former players it can not remove rights of future players that aren't included and have no say in the settlement. This agreement would simply create a private organization to do the same exact thing that the NCAA did, although it would allow pay for play at a capped level. How does that not violate anti trust laws? Curious to see how this plays out.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Wed May 21, 2025 11:07 am

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, always will be a bad idea.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed May 21, 2025 11:36 am

What a time to be alive if you are a lawyer.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed May 21, 2025 12:09 pm

It seems it is always a good time to be a lawyer... my brother seems to think so..🤣🤣🤣
Today I Give My All For Appalachian State!!
#FreeMillerHillForMoMoney!!

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Wed May 21, 2025 1:20 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 11:36 am
What a time to be alive if you are a lawyer.
The reason we need so many lawers is because of lawyers :D

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Wed May 21, 2025 1:20 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed May 21, 2025 11:36 am
What a time to be alive if you are a lawyer.
The reason we need so many lawers is because of lawyers :D

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Sun Jun 01, 2025 3:24 pm

The insurance companies have gotten into the NIL deals now. Play to certain standards/stats and you get paid. It’s sports gambling with a twist.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppWyo » Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:07 am

Any system new system that is agreed upon will benefit the haves and punish the have nots. It will be in the guise of leveling the playing field for everyone, but will level the field in favor of the haves.

The argument that you should not have automatic qualifiers but have the best teams in the tournament is total BS. Any playoff format should allow every conference an equal shot. This is the easiest way to stabilize the conferences.

When there were 5 autonomous and 5 non-autonomous conferences had they taken the top two from the autonomous conferences and the top one from the non-autonomous conferences then they would have had one at large bid for Notre Dame, because everyone knows that Notre Dame could lose all of its games in a season and still be one of the top 16 teams in the country, because of their talent and tradition. Everyone would be happy and everyone would make money. The PAC would not have crumbled and Oklahoma and Texas would not be in the SEC.

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Unread post by Bootsy » Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:49 am

Glad that the House settlement has been approved by the judge:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... settlement

Given that the P4’s have put this together, I hope the new College Sports Commission is effective in bringing some sanity into the current NIL madness. And it looks like they’ll have some heavy hitters on staff:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... commission

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Unread post by appdaze » Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:59 am

Yup, just wild. NIL made it a semi pro league because the entities themselves weren't paying the players. Now I have to say that college is officially a professional league. It says that these payments are on top of scholarships and other benefits. I believe it is time to do away with football and basketball scholarships and replace them with contracted yearly salaries.

I already wasn't giving to NILs, but I sure as heck won't donate to any athletic fund that goes to pay mercenary athletes.

It's time for football to break away from schools and just be sponsored by the school for the use of Name, image, and likeness on equipment and charge foe the usage of facilities.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:45 am

appdaze wrote:
Sat Jun 07, 2025 9:59 am
Yup, just wild. NIL made it a semi pro league because the entities themselves weren't paying the players. Now I have to say that college is officially a professional league. It says that these payments are on top of scholarships and other benefits. I believe it is time to do away with football and basketball scholarships and replace them with contracted yearly salaries.

I already wasn't giving to NILs, but I sure as heck won't donate to any athletic fund that goes to pay mercenary athletes.

It's time for football to break away from schools and just be sponsored by the school for the use of Name, image, and likeness on equipment and charge foe the usage of facilities.
100%

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:48 pm

“ Student athletes “

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by KentHogan » Sat Jun 07, 2025 1:01 pm

Feels more and more like this will be my last season caring about any of these so-called college athletics.

I’ll just watch high school on Fridays and the Panthers on Sunday. At least in the NFL, every team has the same cap.

Such a shame, and all because kids who got a free education were supposedly victimized.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:58 pm

This question has been asked numerous times but I don’t think I’ve ever seen an answer. Where is the money going to come from for App. to pay athletes? Does App. actually generate a profit from sports programs ?

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Jun 08, 2025 6:43 am

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:58 pm
This question has been asked numerous times but I don’t think I’ve ever seen an answer. Where is the money going to come from for App. to pay athletes? Does App. actually generate a profit from sports programs ?
It’s just another line item on the ledger. The money is going to come from other buckets that are already on the ledger.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Bigdaddyg1 » Sun Jun 08, 2025 7:16 am

Is there such a thing as being academically ineligible anymore? If that no longer exists what’s the point in actually awarding and paying an athletic scholarship? Why not simply just sign 85ish football players, let them find their own places to live, pay them their salaries from the “scholarship fund” and if any choose to attend college let them either pay for it, apply for loans or try for regular academic scholarships. How much is paid out each year at App for football scholarships? Is it over $1m? Treat players like employees and let them apply.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Jun 08, 2025 7:51 am

A reallocation of existing funds plus whatever cut we get if the gambling tax.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by AppState222 » Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:52 am

Just so people understand what reallocating existing funds means, potentially: cutting sports, cutting staff, reducing scholarships from teams that arent football and basketball, reducing budgets (both for teams and operationally), putting construction projects on hold, among other things that I'm not thinking of because I'm not Doug Gillian.

And then trying to add new sources of money- raising ticket prices, hoping playfly can increase our sponsorship values, doing something to increase our donor base, hope that Keith Gill gets his head out of his ass and negotiates a better media deal at the next opportunity, and yes, the gambling tax.

This is good for some athletes to get paid, but also potentially really bad for other athletes and some athletic departments.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by Stonewall » Sun Jun 08, 2025 12:07 pm

That’s about the size of it my friend.

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Re: NIL and future of NCAACF

Unread post by bcoach » Sun Jun 08, 2025 1:38 pm

Was a bad idea, is a bad idea, always will be a bad idea.

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