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Re: Recruiting, 2014

Unread post by firemoose » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:20 pm

GoApps70 wrote:firemoose - Do you have any idea what the maximum number is that we can sign?
Seem to recall 25, but many colleges sign more it seems. Guess some are brown shirted, but are we in a different area with the NCAA since we will be going from FCS Transitional to FBS Transitional?
The NCAA has a limit of 25 and allows 28 NLI's (go figure) but most schools are finding ways around these. In 2012 Miami signed 33 and Alabama signed 26 with not a gray shirt in sight. This year alone several schools are over 25 already (Tenn has 29 commits and Miami has 27) and none are showing as gray shirts. The big boys have ways around this and the 85 limit.

As this applies to us as a transitional it says basically if you need (insert number here) to reach the magic number of 85 then you can sign (insert number here). You just have to get to 85. After that it's about money and playing with the loopholes. After this year I would expect us to be in the average range of 15-25 each year but I used the 25-30 number because of who we are losing and how many more we need to get to 85. I'm sure the staff is hoping for all recruited players to get us to 85 but if we don't get enough we'll just add a few PWO's to scholarship, like we did for the 2013 class.

I would love to see a full group of graded, recruited players myself. The biggest problem we face again is that it's still a long time until Feb and, as we are going after better players, then there is a better chance that someone higher up the food chain will step in at the last second to poach someone. Then we have to try and do the same thing. Just love the wonderful world of recruiting at the FBS level.

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Re: Recruiting, 2014

Unread post by firemoose » Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:19 pm

I owe everyone on here an apology. I had a trip on Saturday and didn't think I would be able to get back in time for the game so I gave my tickets to a family member. I was able to dig up some info on visitors before I left and added to them when I got back. I told the guys over at 24/7 who I found on twitter and let them add them to a board thread about the game and I added them to a thread on the Rivals board.

I FORGOT TO PUT THEM ON HERE. :oops:

For that I am truly sorry. Not sure where my mind was. I just realized I never posted them in this thread. These are the ones I'm positive were here. There are a couple more that might have been here but I'm backchecking to see. I know only one is a 2014 visitor but I've got to get with Yosef and get the 2015 and 2016 football pages set up. I have the info. I just need the pages linked so I can add to them.

2014 LB Russell Hibbs from Northwestern High School in Rock Hill, SC
2015 OL Michael Dunlevy from Rocky River High School in Mint Hill, NC
2015 LS/DE Tyler Griffiths from Sun Valley High School in Monroe, NC
2015 QB Kelly Bryant from Wren High School in Piedmont, SC
2015 QB Austin Bradley from Orangeburg-Wilkinson High School in Orangeburg, SC
2016 OL/FB Zach Mayo from Mount Pleasent High School in Mount Pleasent, NC

My humblest apologies.

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Re: Recruiting, 2014

Unread post by firemoose » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:52 pm

From his twitter LB Eric Boggs (6′ 2″ 225) of Belton-Honea Path High School in Honea Path, SC has committed to App State. The Rivals and 24/7 two star becomes our 16th commit. This is our 16th commit for now. I have moved him to the commits section.

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Unread post by mtnjax » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:39 am

Nice to see we're boosting the defense but I would like to see some more on the offensive side (assuming we're going to lose some)

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:45 am

Didn't Moose report that we had something like 17 OL currently on the roster who will return next year?
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Unread post by mtnjax » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:05 am

WVAPPeer wrote:Didn't Moose report that we had something like 17 OL currently on the roster who will return next year?
I looking more at skill players. We're now having to replace 3 WR instead of 2 and outside of Jones and McElfresh we have unknowns going into next year

What happened to Starks? He was redshirt last year and I have yet to see him dress this year.

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Unread post by Rick0714 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:59 am

Starks was moved to DB.

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Unread post by firemoose » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:39 am

mtnjax wrote:
WVAPPeer wrote:Didn't Moose report that we had something like 17 OL currently on the roster who will return next year?
I looking more at skill players. We're now having to replace 3 WR instead of 2 and outside of Jones and McElfresh we have unknowns going into next year

What happened to Starks? He was redshirt last year and I have yet to see him dress this year.
Starks has been injured all year, as has Sumler. Sumler is listed in the participation report for Montana so unless he gets a medical he's lost a year but Starks hasn't been in a game. Both have been having nagging injuries. Hopefully a full offseason of rehab will help. As far as the others, just out of the 2013 class 9 of the 16 we signed are shirted, including WR Dante Jones, and Jaquil Capel will also be able to play next year. Both of them are getting practice time so the speed of the game will be a quicker adjustment than for the incoming Freshmen.

As to the 2014 class I expect a couple more WR's and RB's (don't have a RB committed in the class yet but expect that to change soon). Canty is getting interest from Texas A&M now so if they offer he's gone. We've got Eaton coming in for a visit to the WCU game. Hopkins is supposed to go to Hawaii in Jan and they have already offered. We've got a long wait to see but I expect the staff will have at least one backup that hopefully won't commit somewhere else before Hopkins makes his mind up. Worst part with him is he's not going to leave us a lot of time to find a replacement before signing day if he de-commits. Around 3 weeks at best unless something changes. Best guess is we push for another WR and hope for a commit, just in case.

The one good thing about having to get to 85 this year is we have a couple of spots to play with as backups to some of our commits in case they switch. If they don't then we've just got more competition for playing time at a position instead of getting poached at the last minute and having to scramble to fill a spot. That's what we face after this year.

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Unread post by Mike Holloway » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:59 am

mtnjax wrote:What happened to Starks? He was redshirt last year and I have yet to see him dress this year.
Starks was moved from WR to DB in the offseason, then suffered a season-ending knee injury in fall camp. Not sure if the coaches would consider moving him back to offense but it is a possibility. Unfortunately, he will not see the field at all this year.

To firemoose's point about having back-ups for the committed prospects, one name to keep in mind is Henderson Gray. He wanted to commit back in June but his commitment was not accepted, then Canty and Hopkins committed shortly thereafter. Gray has a slot receiver's build (5-10, 180), 4.5 speed and is still uncommitted.

I know Coach Stepp is very high on Dante Jones as well, he'll be a factor after Peacock and Washington graduate.

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Unread post by GoApps70 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:58 pm

Seems like our offense makes stars of the good receivers, so would think a lot of good WR's would jump at coming to App State.
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Unread post by firemoose » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:33 pm

From twitter and intenet reports OL Owen Painter (6′ 5″ 255) of Grayson High School in Loganville, GA has received an offer from App. I have added him to the Main Page and placed a player page with video up for him. We are showing as his first offer with Arkansas St showing interet.

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Unread post by firemoose » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:45 pm

From internet reports TE Hunter Atkinson (6′ 5″ 250) of West Hall High School in Oakwood, GA has received a reported offer from App. I've waited a couple of days to see if anyone else reported the offer. I'll update as I find out some more information. I have placed him on the Main Page and put up a player page with video highlights. The Rivals 2 star and 247 3 star is showing reported offers from Charlotte, Cincinnati, Ga. St, MTSU, WCU, WKU, and YSU.

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Unread post by mtnjax » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:45 am

firemoose wrote:From twitter and intenet reports OL Owen Painter (6′ 5″ 255) of Grayson High School in Loganville, GA has received an offer from App. I have added him to the Main Page and placed a player page with video up for him. We are showing as his first offer with Arkansas St showing interet.
I imagine he might be pretty good if he had to go up against Robert Nkemdiche (#1 HS recruit last year) in practice everyday

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Unread post by firemoose » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:05 am

mtnjax wrote:
firemoose wrote:From twitter and intenet reports OL Owen Painter (6′ 5″ 255) of Grayson High School in Loganville, GA has received an offer from App. I have added him to the Main Page and placed a player page with video up for him. We are showing as his first offer with Arkansas St showing interet.
I imagine he might be pretty good if he had to go up against Robert Nkemdiche (#1 HS recruit last year) in practice everyday
I would have to agree with that. Also wanted to update that I am now seeing he has reported offers from Arkansas St and WKU. As I've said a few times this is normally the time when recruitment picks up for the mid-level FBS O Linemen. Hopefully with the number of scholarships we've got to offer we can pick up a couple more HS players and maybe a JUCO or two to solidify things up and give the incoming guys time to adapt to the college game. It would be a start to making up for the past few years before last year. We already see Collins getting better each week and I believe Gossett, Nunn, and a couple of others we have shirted will be good players for us. Now is the time to build upon that.

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:54 am

Moose, appreciate all the great work you do on the recruiting threads.

Just wondering if you can see if there is anything on Sha'heem Stupart (5'10", 207lb) out of Wade Hampton High in Greenville, SC. My son has played with him the last four years and this kid is a beast of an RB and LB. He is also a great kid with high academics.

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Unread post by firemoose » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:22 pm

TheMoody1 wrote:Moose, appreciate all the great work you do on the recruiting threads.

Just wondering if you can see if there is anything on Sha'heem Stupart (5'10", 207lb) out of Wade Hampton High in Greenville, SC. My son has played with him the last four years and this kid is a beast of an RB and LB. He is also a great kid with high academics.
Thanks. I enjoy working on this for everyone.

As for Stupart, I did some digging and was surprised that he didn't have a profile on either Rivals or 24/7. In fact the only recruiting site that had him listed was Scout. I'm guessing he'll be in the next wave of rankings that will come out in the next couple of weeks. From Scout he doesn't show any offers but is showing interest from 3 Ivy League (Brown, Dartmouth, and Yale) and other FCS schools (CSU, Elon, Furman, and Wofford). I would say teams are waiting for his full senior season film to come in before offers go out. He did camp at Furman so I would expect them to be on his list being a hometown team. I did see a blog post saying that UNCC showed some interest but no offer yet. That would be the first FBS school to show reported interest.

From App's point of view I think he would have a longer shot of getting on the board right now because of his two positions. We're getting loaded at LB provided we keep all our current and expected commits and with Cox and Upshaw at RB and the fact that it's looking like we're very close to picking up at least one if not two more very good RB's in this class, then we're also loading up there as well. Anything can change before Feb and I'm following him on twitter now so I'll keep my eyes and ears open for you.

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:20 am

Thanks for the info Moose. I know Sha'heem will succeed wherever he ends up. His is tough as nails and has the drive to do it. Having seen all of his games in person I know his senior highlights should open some more eyes. I would love to see him in Black and Gold. :D

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Unread post by mtnjax » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:41 pm

listening to Mountaineer talk and DJ and Satt were talking about announcing soon some kids that would be coming in early or something to that effect. Did i hear that right?

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Unread post by firemoose » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:00 pm

mtnjax wrote:listening to Mountaineer talk and DJ and Satt were talking about announcing soon some kids that would be coming in early or something to that effect. Did i hear that right?
Yes that's correct. There are a couple of our commits that have been talking all along about enrolling in January with a couple more also possible. I'm watching all of our commits accounts to see who is still planning on coming early. I haven't said anything yet because nothing is confirmed but I'll be putting up something soon. Just want to make sure.

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Unread post by mtnjax » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:32 pm

firemoose wrote:
mtnjax wrote:listening to Mountaineer talk and DJ and Satt were talking about announcing soon some kids that would be coming in early or something to that effect. Did i hear that right?
Yes that's correct. There are a couple of our commits that have been talking all along about enrolling in January with a couple more also possible. I'm watching all of our commits accounts to see who is still planning on coming early. I haven't said anything yet because nothing is confirmed but I'll be putting up something soon. Just want to make sure.
i imagine our "liquid" guys aren't among those haha

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