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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by 311neers » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:06 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
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Tate and Huntley are giving it all they got.
Tate is 4-17 from the floor.
I didn’t say they were giving it all correctly. They were at least fighting and playing hard. If only Kerns showed more fight with a game plan and game management.

When the game plan is literally “Myles shoot the ball”, we get games like this.
I would like to know if kerns has just told Tate to shoot as much as he can to win the game for us. That’s an honest question I’ve been wondering about
But he ran Marsh off for doing that?

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by BUTCH1991 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:09 pm

Maybe next year

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by Seattleapp » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm

311neers wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:06 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:05 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:01 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:53 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:46 pm
Tate and Huntley are giving it all they got.
Tate is 4-17 from the floor.
I didn’t say they were giving it all correctly. They were at least fighting and playing hard. If only Kerns showed more fight with a game plan and game management.

When the game plan is literally “Myles shoot the ball”, we get games like this.
I would like to know if kerns has just told Tate to shoot as much as he can to win the game for us. That’s an honest question I’ve been wondering about
But he ran Marsh off for doing that?
Ironic huh?

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:21 am

The zone hurt us. Their guards were taking the zone beyond 3 point line. The move to have Tate to flash to FT line (that was open) was the right move versus him floating around 6 feet beyond 3 pt line. He just missed some shots. It is really not Huntley game to flash to FT line, quick turn and shoot. If we see them in tourney.and they play zone, I would rather see that option as they were not allowing Tate to drive as they would double team him on the perimeter in their zone.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by KentHogan » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:32 am

Certainly not finishing strong.

Too many scoring droughts, too many missed free throws, too many missed easy shots.

At some point, App has to fix the free throw issue, it’s embarrassing.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:32 am

We really struggle if we don't have both Hundley and Tate on their game. Its hard to win when you only have two players that can make significant contributions. The inconsistency of play has become too much to overcome down the stretch. The team continues to give effort though.

Tournament play is a different setting and we've seen this team put together a stretch of good games. Have to rest our hat on that hope.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:06 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:05 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:01 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:53 pm


Tate is 4-17 from the floor.
I didn’t say they were giving it all correctly. They were at least fighting and playing hard. If only Kerns showed more fight with a game plan and game management.

When the game plan is literally “Myles shoot the ball”, we get games like this.
I would like to know if kerns has just told Tate to shoot as much as he can to win the game for us. That’s an honest question I’ve been wondering about
But he ran Marsh off for doing that?
Ironic huh?
Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by JTApps1 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:29 am

I think we're seeing fatigue set in. Three games in six days with an OT game and long road trip aren't helping, but that's the kind of thing they have to figure out if they want to win next week. Tate is our only guard consistently scoring right now, but even he has had been off the last two games. We need the extra time off after Friday to rest up and refocus.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:06 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:05 pm
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:01 pm


I didn’t say they were giving it all correctly. They were at least fighting and playing hard. If only Kerns showed more fight with a game plan and game management.

When the game plan is literally “Myles shoot the ball”, we get games like this.
I would like to know if kerns has just told Tate to shoot as much as he can to win the game for us. That’s an honest question I’ve been wondering about
But he ran Marsh off for doing that?
Ironic huh?
Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.
Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:28 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm
311neers wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:06 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:05 pm


I would like to know if kerns has just told Tate to shoot as much as he can to win the game for us. That’s an honest question I’ve been wondering about
But he ran Marsh off for doing that?
Ironic huh?
Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.
Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.
I know what Kerns told me directly, soooo……..

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:46 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:28 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm
311neers wrote:
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But he ran Marsh off for doing that?
Ironic huh?
Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.
Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.
I know what Kerns told me directly, soooo……..
If I’m not mistaken, this direct 20 second conversation was in reference to the Wake Forest game.

We were a better team with Marsh. Kerns’ ego got the best of him.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:54 am

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:28 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:16 pm

Ironic huh?
Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.
Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.
I know what Kerns told me directly, soooo……..
If I’m not mistaken, this direct 20 second conversation was in reference to the Wake Forest game.

We were a better team with Marsh. Kerns’ ego got the best of him.
Were you there when I was talking to Kerns? I would say that you weren’t since no one else was engaged in our discussion.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by ASUFan4863 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:18 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:54 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:28 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:46 am


Those aren’t the same situations. Marsh didn’t want to do what he was asked. And he was a Freshman, not a Senior.
Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.
I know what Kerns told me directly, soooo……..
If I’m not mistaken, this direct 20 second conversation was in reference to the Wake Forest game.

We were a better team with Marsh. Kerns’ ego got the best of him.
Were you there when I was talking to Kerns? I would say that you weren’t since no one else was engaged in our discussion.
I was not there but you have told the story enough times that everyone knows when it happened. Your question and Kerns’ answer were involving the NIT matchup against Wake. This does not mean that Kerns did or did not run Marsh off.

If anything, it actually is more evidence that he did, which in fact he did. Carry on brother.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:21 pm

Give me an ultimatum and you are gone. There is no “ I” in team. He wasn’t the first and likely not the last given the times we live in.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by AppSt94 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:46 pm

ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 12:18 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:54 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:46 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:28 am
ASUFan4863 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:36 am


Marsh is averaging 19 & 4 at Asheville. Perhaps he was being asked the wrong thing? We sure could have used another scoring guard this year! Was it a situation of Kerns not wanting to fit Marsh into the system correctly or Marsh not wanting to fit in correctly? Some of us know the truth.
I know what Kerns told me directly, soooo……..
If I’m not mistaken, this direct 20 second conversation was in reference to the Wake Forest game.

We were a better team with Marsh. Kerns’ ego got the best of him.
Were you there when I was talking to Kerns? I would say that you weren’t since no one else was engaged in our discussion.
I was not there but you have told the story enough times that everyone knows when it happened. Your question and Kerns’ answer were involving the NIT matchup against Wake. This does not mean that Kerns did or did not run Marsh off.

If anything, it actually is more evidence that he did, which in fact he did. Carry on brother.
The bottom line is that Marsh would not do what he was asked to do. A coach cannot allow that to happen and hold a team together. It’s quite clear that you are pro player and love to pile on the coaches when they hurt your feelings by not doing what you think needs to be done to be successful. If you knew as much as you think that you do then you would know and understand why he is gone.

In a nutshell, “Tell me that you have never played or coached without telling us you have never played or coached.” Enjoy your misery. Back on IGNORE you go.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by CharlotteApp05 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:52 pm

I will just say where I am is complicated.....Never thought we would see a winning season this season after all that we lost. Very proud of the group we assembled and Kerns ability to get them to play together and win this many games.

I am very pro Kerns, I am also pro players. Where I am struggling is what I also see is fatigue. We are better than this and some guys aren't playing the minutes they were playing during our most successful part of the season.

My solution (part of this I have said for 3 years) is to slide Huntley to the 3. We don't have really anyone there now! I would use Marcus much more at the 4 and go big.

Guards: Tate, Connors, Dodd supporting those 2
Big men: Beaubrun, Wilson and Marcus
SF: Huntley, with Threadgill and maybe Muttelieb getting some very small minutes.

Then we can go 9 deep, but keeping Huntely and Tate the center of the rotation and keeping everyone else more fresh.

We are very fortunate to have such size...Imagine the mismatches we could present.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by hapapp » Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:01 pm

In his six years as App's coach, Kerns' teams are 22-21 in February. If you exclude last year's 8-1 record in February, his teams are 14-20 and usually finish losing three out of the last four games. The year we won the SBC Tourney, we finished losing four of our last five (which perhaps should give us some hope this season). We are 13-4 in February the last two seasons but in his previous four seasons to that we never finished above .500 in the month and were 9-17 overall.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by Stonewall » Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:07 pm

Shooting looks tired , from the guys that can shoot or have shown the ability. A lot of minutes. Long bus rides to Statesboro now turn around tomorrow and head to Huntington . We probably end up sixth giving us a week off. If we can get our legs back we can win a game or two. More than that will be tough given the format. I’m headed to Pensacola midweek to maximize seafood opportunities and support the team.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by appfanjj » Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:27 pm

Dodd and Connors haven't really done much consistently as far as scoring goes and you can't depend on Tate and Huntley to carry the load alone.

Biggest disappointment is Harcum packing for Murray State. Think he would have made a huge difference for us this year. Consistent scoring threat and a good FT shooter. I can see Abson and Spillers bolting for the cash but to lose a guy to Murray State? Not sure how that happens.

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Re: MBB at Georgia Southern, Tuesday Feb. 25th 7pm

Unread post by AppinVA » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:03 pm

appfanjj wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:27 pm
Dodd and Connors haven't really done much consistently as far as scoring goes and you can't depend on Tate and Huntley to carry the load alone.

Biggest disappointment is Harcum packing for Murray State. Think he would have made a huge difference for us this year. Consistent scoring threat and a good FT shooter. I can see Abson and Spillers bolting for the cash but to lose a guy to Murray State? Not sure how that happens.
Better than the last time we lost a guy to Murray State.
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