App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

[Saint3333]

The same people that pay the contracted price.

There will be “for cause” clauses, etc similar to other contracts. Market price and terms will be established within three years of implementing.

Need to go ahead and rip the bandaid off.

[AppStFan1]

Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?

Perhaps for a coach to tell the player they won't play and just let them know they are being demoted to scout team. I am sure there will be clauses in the contract to allow for a clean break if both parties are fine with it.

If the player does not want to leave then the school would have to pay for the buyout. I would think that schools would put money aside for things like that knowing it will come up.

[AppSt94]

Then players need to be contract employees just like coaches.

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?

Perhaps for a coach to tell the player they won't play and just let them know they are being demoted to scout team. I am sure there will be clauses in the contract to allow for a clean break if both parties are fine with it.

If the player does not want to leave then the school would have to pay for the buyout. I would think that schools would put money aside for things like that knowing it will come up.

That would have to be some very creative language.

[Saint3333]

Lawyers write them everyday.

If you have an employment contract it’s extremely common.

[Bootsy]

Lawyers write them everyday.

If you have an employment contract it’s extremely common.

True, and one of the biggest variables right now is how state law impacts these contracts. Getting the Feds involved is never fun, but maybe it provides for some standardization of contracting language to level set the playing field for all parties.

[proasu89]

Scholarships and scholarly pursuits no longer have any value. Will you all keep giving to Yosef to provide scholarships? I feel like it's a punch in the gut to those who donate to provide scholarships.

It’s a difficult question to answer and one that many long time contributors are struggling with. What happens to the student athletes that are truly pursuing a degree and wouldn’t be enrolled without a scholarship?

[AppStFan1]

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?

Perhaps for a coach to tell the player they won't play and just let them know they are being demoted to scout team. I am sure there will be clauses in the contract to allow for a clean break if both parties are fine with it.

If the player does not want to leave then the school would have to pay for the buyout. I would think that schools would put money aside for things like that knowing it will come up.

That would have to be some very creative language.

If we just do a better job of scouting and don't sign awful players then the problem won't matter. LOL

Seriously though I would imagine for the most part we would have to pay to get out of it but I would think that there will be times where the player might decide to ask for a release just because they want to get on the field.

[AppSt94]

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?

Perhaps for a coach to tell the player they won't play and just let them know they are being demoted to scout team. I am sure there will be clauses in the contract to allow for a clean break if both parties are fine with it.

If the player does not want to leave then the school would have to pay for the buyout. I would think that schools would put money aside for things like that knowing it will come up.

That would have to be some very creative language.

If we just do a better job of scouting and don't sign awful players then the problem won't matter. LOL

Seriously though I would imagine for the most part we would have to pay to get out of it but I would think that there will be times where the player might decide to ask for a release just because they want to get on the field.

Yeah, I’m not putting everyone in to the same situational bucket. Just looking at it from a risk management standpoint. How much money do you want to tie up in futures versus year over? It’s a no brainer in hindsight, but you don’t know who is injury prone and who doesn’t have the fortitude to be a factor. It’s a gamble either way, but schools like App don’t have the funds to absorb misses.

[Saint3333]

We absorb misses every year. Look at the scholarship dollars that go to players that never see the field.

50% of our top recruits don’t pan out.

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... eRecruits/

[goapps93]

We absorb misses every year. Look at the scholarship dollars that go to players that never see the field.

50% of our top recruits don’t pan out.

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... eRecruits/

I don't have a problem paying for a player's education if he sticks around, whether he sees the field or not. But it's not about an education anymore.

[AppSt94]

We absorb misses every year. Look at the scholarship dollars that go to players that never see the field.

50% of our top recruits don’t pan out.

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... eRecruits/

This is true. And hitting on 50% of your class is considered as a good class. Cutting someone loose after a year or two cost you two years of the scholarship cost. It happens. My point is do you sign a freshman to a four year deal that undoubtedly escalates each year? Does it affect motivation? How does the final two years of the contract get paid out if the program feels like they need to move on?

I don’t have the answers, I’m just asking the questions. An example being you sign 20 HS kids to a 4 year deal because nothing else makes sense, with escalating payouts of $10k, $20k, $30k, $40k. Say he doesn’t pan out and we move on after 2 years. Is he owed the balance? Multiply that by 10, (50% failure rate) that’s $700k tied up in wasted money that can’t be used to replace the losses. As much as some people hate the idea of pay for play, how would people feel about paying to not play? It’s an NFL model, but fans don’t pay for that absorbtion in the NFL.

[Pikapp79]

We absorb misses every year. Look at the scholarship dollars that go to players that never see the field.

50% of our top recruits don’t pan out.

https://247sports.com/college/appalachi ... eRecruits/

I don't have a problem paying for a player's education if he sticks around, whether he sees the field or not. But it's not about an education anymore.

Employment contracts to play a sport. If you don’t play don’t pay including scholarship. You can’t have it both ways.

[BambooRdApp]

I think App would have to take a measured approach. Not all players coming out of high school get paid ...maybe none...once the talent gets on campus. You see what you got..like Nate Johnson, etc...then you consider the multi year contract. If someone like Nate turns out to be great, then a buyout happens. Unless someone wins the lottery and gives it all to App, we are not competing on nil every year. However, we can try to be strategic.
Maybe the do, however, I do not believe every Power school is paying every player nil money, are they?

[AppSt94]

I think App would have to take a measured approach. Not all players coming out of high school get paid ...maybe none...once the talent gets on campus. You see what you got..like Nate Johnson, etc...then you consider the multi year contract. If someone like Nate turns out to be great, then a buyout happens. Unless someone wins the lottery and gives it all to App, we are not competing on nil every year. However, we can try to be strategic.
Maybe the do, however, I do not believe every Power school is paying every player nil money, are they?

There would need to be a strategic plan. The reality is that we are going to have a difficult time holding on to guys that deserve more and can get more than we can give. We didn’t have the $250k to keep McLeod. Everett, who we benched, got 50k from Oklahoma. Would folks here think $50k for a center to be justifiable?

[Saint3333]

4 year deals will not be market for 95% of players.

The G5 split is inevitable to the broader point.

[AppSt94]

4 year deals will not be market for 95% of players.

The G5 split is inevitable to the broader point.

4 year deals should not be the market for 95% of all college players.

[Mjohn1988]

I think App would have to take a measured approach. Not all players coming out of high school get paid ...maybe none...once the talent gets on campus. You see what you got..like Nate Johnson, etc...then you consider the multi year contract. If someone like Nate turns out to be great, then a buyout happens. Unless someone wins the lottery and gives it all to App, we are not competing on nil every year. However, we can try to be strategic.
Maybe the do, however, I do not believe every Power school is paying every player nil money, are they?

There would need to be a strategic plan. The reality is that we are going to have a difficult time holding on to guys that deserve more and can get more than we can give. We didn’t have the $250k to keep McLeod. Everett, who we benched, got 50k from Oklahoma. Would folks here think $50k for a center to be justifiable?

Under the current situation players can get what the market will pay. I for one hope the bottom completely falls out of the market. It’s going to be hard but I’m going to do my best not to watch the CFP. I hope it gets fixed because I really loved college football. The university need to remember that they have the brands and without a place to play all the athletic ability in the world has very limited value. Playing for a “brand” is the only thing that creates value. The institution that own the “brands” can decide if they want to try to save college football or swallow the poison pill.

[ASUFan4863]

Aguilar to the portal

[BallantyneApp]

Coaches break their contracts all the time when they leave to take another job, some after their first year.

And the school gets paid the contracted penalty when the contract is broken. Same can be done with players

Sure but the problem that you run into is that would require the player to sign a multi year deal. What happens if a player isn't working out and we the program wants to free up a roster spot. Then who pays that buyout?

Perhaps for a coach to tell the player they won't play and just let them know they are being demoted to scout team. I am sure there will be clauses in the contract to allow for a clean break if both parties are fine with it.

If the player does not want to leave then the school would have to pay for the buyout. I would think that schools would put money aside for things like that knowing it will come up.

That would have to be some very creative language.

Pretty boilerplate really for employment contracts

[mtnjax]

Aguilar to the portal

Not really surprised. We weren’t supposed to
have him back anyway, but with the waiver now I could see him testing waters to see if he could get into a bigger program out west and closer to home