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Re: Clark

Unread post by t4pizza » Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:28 pm

It is not lost on me that the guy who hired him, Scott Frost, was also fired by his own after not living up to expectations. I wish them both the best in their rebound jobs, especially Clark.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:41 pm

For those wondering, per the contract, Clark is paid the $500k within 90 days of termination without cause. And there's no mitigation for getting a new job, so Clark is getting that $500k. And that's something Gillin, etc knew when they made the decision.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by AtlAppMan » Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:41 pm

BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:38 pm
AppStateDieHard wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:33 am
Why do we not want to pay Clark? I don’t get it. Even if the new salary technically offset his buyout, that guy is family.
Well in that case if Clark is family, why didn’t he resign when he knew we wanted to go in another direction?

To be clear I’m not saying he should have but every dollar we save is one we can spend on the program.
SC had a contract that entitled him to a buy out if the university ended his employment early. Nobody should say he should have given money back. Both parties did what mutual agreement terms described so leave it alone. Neither party was harmed in the separation. Just like there may be “options” to renew there can be options to early termination.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Bootsy » Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm

Ummm, maybe we should agree that people here feel strongly about Coach Clark and we all wish him the best and everyone here wins if we just move forward?

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Re: Clark

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:11 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:41 pm
BallantyneApp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 12:38 pm
AppStateDieHard wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:33 am
Why do we not want to pay Clark? I don’t get it. Even if the new salary technically offset his buyout, that guy is family.
Well in that case if Clark is family, why didn’t he resign when he knew we wanted to go in another direction?

To be clear I’m not saying he should have but every dollar we save is one we can spend on the program.
SC had a contract that entitled him to a buy out if the university ended his employment early. Nobody should say he should have given money back. Both parties did what mutual agreement terms described so leave it alone. Neither party was harmed in the separation. Just like there may be “options” to renew there can be options to early termination.
Agreed we should follow the terms of the contract. If there is an offset clause then great- I hope ucf pays him over our buyout.

I’m just pointing out it’s as silly to say we should pay Clark’s buyout regardless since he’s “family” as it is to ask him to forgo contract terms since he’s “family”

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Re: Clark

Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:29 pm

#TeamClark -- like I said in a P4 job in sunny Florida,

40-24 Head Coaching record with 3 Bowl wins and a couple of SBC championships and title appearances.

What a guy, what a head coach.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by RaleighApp27609 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:35 pm

DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:29 pm
#TeamClark -- like I said in a P4 job in sunny Florida,

40-24 Head Coaching record with 3 Bowl wins and a couple of SBC championships and title appearances.

What a guy, what a head coach.
Yeah with the second SBC appearance due to a technicality. Yeah three bowl wins, one bowl loss and two seasons with not even making the post season🙄

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:39 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm
Ummm, maybe we should agree that people here feel strongly about Coach Clark and we all wish him the best and everyone here wins if we just move forward?
I don’t believe everyone on here wishes him the best. Some of these posters seem act like he personally hurt them.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Bootsy » Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:59 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:39 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm
Ummm, maybe we should agree that people here feel strongly about Coach Clark and we all wish him the best and everyone here wins if we just move forward?
I don’t believe everyone on here wishes him the best. Some of these posters seem act like he personally hurt them.
Maybe not. But as someone else said on here: it’s Christmastime. Let’s try to get along for the kids’ sake.

Let’s do it for the kids, y’all!

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Re: Clark

Unread post by appbio91 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:28 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:13 pm
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:44 am
hapapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:30 am
Its being very well received on the UCF board.
https://ucf.forums.rivals.com/threads/c ... 513/page-6
We made the right move and I’m happy we did, but funny how people on the outside can look at that resume and see a positive. In fact someone on here posted all the accomplishments and even to me it looked impressive. But, being a fan that witnessed the full picture puts it into perspective.
Yes because you sitting in section 221 can evaluate his ability to be an offensive line coach more than guys who are actually coaching. Clark was and is not some failure as a coach. You didn’t like him as you made known repeatedly. He’s gone and we are
Going in another direction. But he played at app, and gave his all to App. Don’t really get why you feel the need to dump on Clark even
More. Seems like you’d be the happiest dude in town we are moving on, but yet still with the pointless negative Clark posts
You got me confused with somebody else buddy. But it’s social media so I’ll forgive you for going off half cocked. BTW, explain to me how that post was so negative?

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 am

appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:28 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:13 pm
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:44 am
hapapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:30 am
Its being very well received on the UCF board.
https://ucf.forums.rivals.com/threads/c ... 513/page-6
We made the right move and I’m happy we did, but funny how people on the outside can look at that resume and see a positive. In fact someone on here posted all the accomplishments and even to me it looked impressive. But, being a fan that witnessed the full picture puts it into perspective.
Yes because you sitting in section 221 can evaluate his ability to be an offensive line coach more than guys who are actually coaching. Clark was and is not some failure as a coach. You didn’t like him as you made known repeatedly. He’s gone and we are
Going in another direction. But he played at app, and gave his all to App. Don’t really get why you feel the need to dump on Clark even
More. Seems like you’d be the happiest dude in town we are moving on, but yet still with the pointless negative Clark posts
You got me confused with somebody else buddy. But it’s social media so I’ll forgive you for going off half cocked. BTW, explain to me how that post was so negative?
Maybe I misread your meaning bit I took it as everyone on the outside was hoodwinked by Clark but as a fan you saw how he wasn’t good. If that’s not what you meant I apologize

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Re: Clark

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:36 am

DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:29 pm
#TeamClark -- like I said in a P4 job in sunny Florida,

40-24 Head Coaching record with 3 Bowl wins and a couple of SBC championships and title appearances.

What a guy, what a head coach.
Yes we wish him all the best. Most people on here recognize he is a near elite offensive line coach and that’s what he’s doing.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by dougy2 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:40 am

Congratulations Coach!
People say that area is the "happiest place on Earth." If you have children, I can see that.

My happiest place is up Stadium Drive on a Fall afternoon with my friends!!
Wish you all the best at UCF. Unless you're playing App State!!
God bless you and your family!

ASU-'77 & '78.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by appbio91 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:55 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 am
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:28 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:13 pm
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:44 am
hapapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:30 am
Its being very well received on the UCF board.
https://ucf.forums.rivals.com/threads/c ... 513/page-6
We made the right move and I’m happy we did, but funny how people on the outside can look at that resume and see a positive. In fact someone on here posted all the accomplishments and even to me it looked impressive. But, being a fan that witnessed the full picture puts it into perspective.
Yes because you sitting in section 221 can evaluate his ability to be an offensive line coach more than guys who are actually coaching. Clark was and is not some failure as a coach. You didn’t like him as you made known repeatedly. He’s gone and we are
Going in another direction. But he played at app, and gave his all to App. Don’t really get why you feel the need to dump on Clark even
More. Seems like you’d be the happiest dude in town we are moving on, but yet still with the pointless negative Clark posts
You got me confused with somebody else buddy. But it’s social media so I’ll forgive you for going off half cocked. BTW, explain to me how that post was so negative?
Maybe I misread your meaning bit I took it as everyone on the outside was hoodwinked by Clark but as a fan you saw how he wasn’t good. If that’s not what you meant I apologize
I’m not App91 if that helps. Think Clark is not only a great guy but a great Coach and I hope he is successful wherever he goes. But agree with the decision to go another direction.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Seattleapp » Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:51 pm

appbio91 wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:55 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:05 am
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:28 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 1:13 pm
appbio91 wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 10:44 am


We made the right move and I’m happy we did, but funny how people on the outside can look at that resume and see a positive. In fact someone on here posted all the accomplishments and even to me it looked impressive. But, being a fan that witnessed the full picture puts it into perspective.
Yes because you sitting in section 221 can evaluate his ability to be an offensive line coach more than guys who are actually coaching. Clark was and is not some failure as a coach. You didn’t like him as you made known repeatedly. He’s gone and we are
Going in another direction. But he played at app, and gave his all to App. Don’t really get why you feel the need to dump on Clark even
More. Seems like you’d be the happiest dude in town we are moving on, but yet still with the pointless negative Clark posts
You got me confused with somebody else buddy. But it’s social media so I’ll forgive you for going off half cocked. BTW, explain to me how that post was so negative?
Maybe I misread your meaning bit I took it as everyone on the outside was hoodwinked by Clark but as a fan you saw how he wasn’t good. If that’s not what you meant I apologize
I’m not App91 if that helps. Think Clark is not only a great guy but a great Coach and I hope he is successful wherever he goes. But agree with the decision to go another direction.
Damn similar names !!! Haha Merry Christmas to yall!

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Mikeyosef1 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:06 am

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:39 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm
Ummm, maybe we should agree that people here feel strongly about Coach Clark and we all wish him the best and everyone here wins if we just move forward?
I don’t believe everyone on here wishes him the best. Some of these posters seem act like he personally hurt them.
Why would anyone not wish him well? I've not heard anyone talk about him negatively as a person, quite the contrary, it seems folks universally say he's a good guy. I believe the person most butt hurt by our bad performance this year is probably Clark. Forget about his concern for his job; he bleeds black and gold. It didn't work out for him here, but it wasn't for lack of effort. He was just not ready to lead as our head coach. We can argue about why it didn't work out for him but we can't argue where his heart was in all this.

I wish him very well in his new role at UCF. Everyone on this board should do the same.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:57 am

Mikeyosef1 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:06 am
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:39 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:59 pm
Ummm, maybe we should agree that people here feel strongly about Coach Clark and we all wish him the best and everyone here wins if we just move forward?
I don’t believe everyone on here wishes him the best. Some of these posters seem act like he personally hurt them.
Why would anyone not wish him well? I've not heard anyone talk about him negatively as a person, quite the contrary, it seems folks universally say he's a good guy. I believe the person most butt hurt by our bad performance this year is probably Clark. Forget about his concern for his job; he bleeds black and gold. It didn't work out for him here, but it wasn't for lack of effort. He was just not ready to lead as our head coach. We can argue about why it didn't work out for him but we can't argue where his heart was in all this.

I wish him very well in his new role at UCF. Everyone on this board should do the same.
Agree here. It is fair to acknowledge if DL is doing something that we were not having done previously or if you want to pontificate on why things did not work with Clark but no reason to just bash him. I think we should all wish him well. I will admit I won't be checking on UCF weekly to keep tabs on him but I will check here and there to see what bowl they go to, if he has anyone drafted, and if he leaves.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:11 am

AppWyo wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:36 am
Many people on Yosef's Cabin comment on everything. It must be that Appalachian education.
I will comment on anything, but that doesn't mean I know anything.

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Re: Clark

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:27 pm

AppfaninCAALand wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:11 am
AppWyo wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:36 am
Many people on Yosef's Cabin comment on everything. It must be that Appalachian education.
I will comment on anything, but that doesn't mean I know anything.
We are opinionated. 🤪

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Re: Clark

Unread post by AppWyo » Wed Dec 25, 2024 11:19 pm

Pikapp79 wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 7:27 pm
AppfaninCAALand wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:11 am
AppWyo wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:36 am
Many people on Yosef's Cabin comment on everything. It must be that Appalachian education.
I will comment on anything, but that doesn't mean I know anything.
We are opinionated. 🤪
You know enough to have an opinion.

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