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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppWyo » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:09 pm

What I like best about this hire is that no one knew about it or at least no one in the media knew about it. The biggest thing now is will he like it in Boone, will he like us, and will he win enough for us to keep him.

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AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:03 am
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:33 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
That “didn’t recruit” line was a lazy excuse after his post game interview following the Georgia loss. When asked about recruiting he essentially said that it was an off-season discussion. Kirby took that bait and said something like ‘we recruit every day, if you’re not recruiting you’re not winning’. Mullen recruited fine, he just had some significant post game media gaffs starting with the LSU show game. His first 3 classes were actually rated higher than Napier’s first 3 classes and yet Napier is considered a great recruiter. And Mullen didn’t have the football facility to recruit with, it wasn’t finished until he was fired. He recruited well at Florida.
I hope DL is the best we ever had. I’m just curious about how we chose (Parker) candidates and why an obvious choice wouldn’t even have been contacted.
I would not have opposed to Mullen, but to call him an “obvious” choice is a bit much.
Bad wording on my part, simply meant with his background he would be an obvious candidate, didn't mean to state he would be our choice.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by t4pizza » Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:13 pm

appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:53 am
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:33 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
That “didn’t recruit” line was a lazy excuse after his post game interview following the Georgia loss. When asked about recruiting he essentially said that it was an off-season discussion. Kirby took that bait and said something like ‘we recruit every day, if you’re not recruiting you’re not winning’. Mullen recruited fine, he just had some significant post game media gaffs starting with the LSU show game. His first 3 classes were actually rated higher than Napier’s first 3 classes and yet Napier is considered a great recruiter. And Mullen didn’t have the football facility to recruit with, it wasn’t finished until he was fired. He recruited well at Florida.
I hope DL is the best we ever had. I’m just curious about how we chose (Parker) candidates and why an obvious choice wouldn’t even have been contacted.
I don't claim to be an insider, but that is very widely reported by many different Florida sources, and not just the result of a single comment. It seems he either got complacent or started chasing the NFL, because he stopped doing much of anything at Florida.

I thought he was great at Mississippi State.
It became somewhat similar to the thinking at Auburn, there was constant comparison to Kirby at Georgia the way everyone at Auburn was constantly compared to Saban. His classes were good classes, average of 11, the problem was that Kirby kills it in recruiting and his classes are always 1-3. So it wasn't that Mullen was bad at recruiting or didn't like it, he just didn't do as well as Kirby. And nobody really complained about it, until that final loss to Georgia when he screwed up in the post game presser. I think most Gators realized the comparison is unjust and have stopped doing that so much, but we will see if it starts once success returns to Gainesville. They can be a difficult bunch to deal with when the going is good, unless you are one of them.

Anyways, we got our guy and excited to see what he can do.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:26 pm

t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:07 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:03 am
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:33 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
That “didn’t recruit” line was a lazy excuse after his post game interview following the Georgia loss. When asked about recruiting he essentially said that it was an off-season discussion. Kirby took that bait and said something like ‘we recruit every day, if you’re not recruiting you’re not winning’. Mullen recruited fine, he just had some significant post game media gaffs starting with the LSU show game. His first 3 classes were actually rated higher than Napier’s first 3 classes and yet Napier is considered a great recruiter. And Mullen didn’t have the football facility to recruit with, it wasn’t finished until he was fired. He recruited well at Florida.
I hope DL is the best we ever had. I’m just curious about how we chose (Parker) candidates and why an obvious choice wouldn’t even have been contacted.
I would not have opposed to Mullen, but to call him an “obvious” choice is a bit much.
Bad wording on my part, simply meant with his background he would be an obvious candidate, didn't mean to state he would be our choice.
I figured as much. You and I have had plenty of offline conversations to think otherwise.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:03 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:26 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:07 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:03 am
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:33 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
That “didn’t recruit” line was a lazy excuse after his post game interview following the Georgia loss. When asked about recruiting he essentially said that it was an off-season discussion. Kirby took that bait and said something like ‘we recruit every day, if you’re not recruiting you’re not winning’. Mullen recruited fine, he just had some significant post game media gaffs starting with the LSU show game. His first 3 classes were actually rated higher than Napier’s first 3 classes and yet Napier is considered a great recruiter. And Mullen didn’t have the football facility to recruit with, it wasn’t finished until he was fired. He recruited well at Florida.
I hope DL is the best we ever had. I’m just curious about how we chose (Parker) candidates and why an obvious choice wouldn’t even have been contacted.
I would not have opposed to Mullen, but to call him an “obvious” choice is a bit much.
Bad wording on my part, simply meant with his background he would be an obvious candidate, didn't mean to state he would be our choice.
I figured as much. You and I have had plenty of offline conversations to think otherwise.
At least you guys are talking again. That’s the Christmas spirit for ya!

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:27 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:03 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:26 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:07 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:03 am
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That “didn’t recruit” line was a lazy excuse after his post game interview following the Georgia loss. When asked about recruiting he essentially said that it was an off-season discussion. Kirby took that bait and said something like ‘we recruit every day, if you’re not recruiting you’re not winning’. Mullen recruited fine, he just had some significant post game media gaffs starting with the LSU show game. His first 3 classes were actually rated higher than Napier’s first 3 classes and yet Napier is considered a great recruiter. And Mullen didn’t have the football facility to recruit with, it wasn’t finished until he was fired. He recruited well at Florida.
I hope DL is the best we ever had. I’m just curious about how we chose (Parker) candidates and why an obvious choice wouldn’t even have been contacted.
I would not have opposed to Mullen, but to call him an “obvious” choice is a bit much.
Bad wording on my part, simply meant with his background he would be an obvious candidate, didn't mean to state he would be our choice.
I figured as much. You and I have had plenty of offline conversations to think otherwise.
At least you guys are talking again. That’s the Christmas spirit for ya!

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58 pages of discussion about realistic coaching options for 2025 and we have already hired our Head Football Coach. j/k :D
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58 pages of discussion about realistic coaching options for 2025 and we have already hired our Head Football Coach. j/k :D
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DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by DenverOfTheEast » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:11 am

MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The SEC West was insanely too good when he was at Miss St, and Georgia,Tenn wasn't dominate at the time he went to Florida, he had to take Florida.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by Bootsy » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The same could’ve been said about Saban leaving LSU for Alabama. But how did that turn out?
They don’t just do it for the money, fellas. They do it for the glory.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppDawg » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:44 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The same could’ve been said about Saban leaving LSU for Alabama. But how did that turn out?
They don’t just do it for the money, fellas. They do it for the glory.
I believe Saban left LSU for NFL… then went to Bama only after that didn’t work out too well.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by MrCraig » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:56 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The same could’ve been said about Saban leaving LSU for Alabama. But how did that turn out?
They don’t just do it for the money, fellas. They do it for the glory.
Right, but he could’ve been a legend at Miss State instead of another also-ran at Florida. Sounds like glory to me.

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Unread post by BallantyneApp » Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:00 pm

Bootsy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The same could’ve been said about Saban leaving LSU for Alabama. But how did that turn out?
They don’t just do it for the money, fellas. They do it for the glory.
Nah it’s the money.

Florida has more resources than Miss St.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by t4pizza » Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:28 pm

MrCraig wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:56 pm
Bootsy wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:38 pm
MrCraig wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:29 pm
DenverOfTheEast wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:24 am
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:52 am
Re: Dan Mullen, he got fired at Florida because he didn't recruit. He hated recruiting. What is going to change in the NIL/TP world that is going to make him suddenly like to recruit? I'm not saying he wouldn't have been a good candidate, but this is a big red flag.

I wasn't sold on this hire at first, but after talking to some people who actually know what went on in the interview process and what's going on now, I feel better about it. I'm willing to wait and see. I figured we were going 3-9 next year anyway, so maybe it's better.
Dan Mullen average class recruiting ranking at Florida #11 -- he also had Dak Prescott at Miss State and got them ranked #1 in 2014. Florida pulled the plug on Dan too soon, in the middle of the pandemic. He had to clean up Jim McElwain mess also. 3 of 4 years had Florida ranked in the top 12 at end of the season. While he was at Miss St he was going head to head with Saban, Alabama and LSU while both were at their peak.

Billy Napier average recruiting class ranking #15 at Florida.

Where some of you guys come up with these posts is a mind boggle.
I don’t often agree with DOTE, but he’s spot on here. Mullen was fired because Florida boosters are crazy. However, I think Mullen was crazy to leave for Florida. If he’d stayed at Miss State for 10-15 more years and won 8 or more games every year, they’d have written him a blank check and put a statue outside the stadium.
The same could’ve been said about Saban leaving LSU for Alabama. But how did that turn out?
They don’t just do it for the money, fellas. They do it for the glory.
Right, but he could’ve been a legend at Miss State instead of another also-ran at Florida. Sounds like glory to me.
I really thought he would win a title at Florida, and so did most of the fans/alums that I know. He started very well, just didn't end well at all. I still think if they would have given him that 1 bad season, he would have righted the ship.

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Unread post by T-Dog » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:35 am

Mullen had two things against him at the same time at Florida. He was bleeding losses and he was a jerk. It makes a coach fireable especially to a program with SEC resources.

Mullen recruited well at first, but his highly-rated classes had questionable characters guys that bit him and the program. Then after 2020 and losing the LS-Shoe game, he stopped caring and was openly flirting with NFL jobs while refusing to make staff changes.

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So UNLV got Dan Mullen.
I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I think the MWC is under the radar and is disrespected due to East Coast bias. I’m just speculating but reports are they are poised to join the PAC 12 restart. I imagine they have beefed up their budget more than we’re capable.
How does one just “beef up” a budget without additional revenue? This tells me that it’s all fugaze. It’s vapor. It is not real.


App needs an entrepreneur as AD. A proven entrepreneur who knows how to fudge with numbers to experience the type of growth that allows you to compete above your weight class.

It is difficult to find true entrepreneurial spirit in the academic world, though.

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by MrCraig » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:14 am

ericsaid wrote:
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I would really like to know for sure if we contacted him (or his people) about our opening. If we did not (as I strongly suspect) then I would like to know why. Look at the list of criteria that DG listed in the press conference and it is clear that Mullen checks all the boxes and some on a far greater level than our guy. I am not disparaging our coach, hope he is the best ever. I am more concerned about understanding the process and figuring out how a guy like Mullen would not even be contacted.
This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I think the MWC is under the radar and is disrespected due to East Coast bias. I’m just speculating but reports are they are poised to join the PAC 12 restart. I imagine they have beefed up their budget more than we’re capable.
How does one just “beef up” a budget without additional revenue? This tells me that it’s all fugaze. It’s vapor. It is not real.


App needs an entrepreneur as AD. A proven entrepreneur who knows how to fudge with numbers to experience the type of growth that allows you to compete above your weight class.

It is difficult to find true entrepreneurial spirit in the academic world, though.
I mean, if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, since we gave up the gold standard, is money even real? The majority of "wealth" in the world is just ones and zeros on a computer. Is perception reality?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:20 am

MrCraig wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:14 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:05 am
goapps93 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:56 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:29 pm

This may be one reason.

Part of UNLV’s pursuit of Mullen includes an NIL and revenue-share commitment, Nakos reported. The school is gearing up to roll out one of the top budgets in the Mountain West and, later, the Pac-12 once the Rebels make the move
You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I think the MWC is under the radar and is disrespected due to East Coast bias. I’m just speculating but reports are they are poised to join the PAC 12 restart. I imagine they have beefed up their budget more than we’re capable.
How does one just “beef up” a budget without additional revenue? This tells me that it’s all fugaze. It’s vapor. It is not real.


App needs an entrepreneur as AD. A proven entrepreneur who knows how to fudge with numbers to experience the type of growth that allows you to compete above your weight class.

It is difficult to find true entrepreneurial spirit in the academic world, though.
I mean, if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, since we gave up the gold standard, is money even real? The majority of "wealth" in the world is just ones and zeros on a computer. Is perception reality?
Perception is reality, and every single person on planet Earth has their own perception of the world based upon how the information they take in is transformed and organized. Thus, there are close to 9 billion realities.


The point remains, how does one just “beef up” a budget when no official money is coming in to do so? Is this like Louisiana pulling from its General Education Fund to fund football?

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Re: Realistic coaching options for 2025...

Unread post by AppWyo » Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:53 am

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:20 am
MrCraig wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:14 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:05 am
goapps93 wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:56 pm
t4pizza wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:49 pm


You may be right that finances would have kept it from happening, but how does anyone really know that if we never contacted him or his people. I find it hard to believe that there are many (UNLV may be one but who knows) G5 schools that have significantly bigger revenue streams than we do. We are a brand and have great attendance and great donations compared to peers, so how can other G5 have such superior NIL? And we are talking about a UNLV team where the starting qb left after 3 games bc NIL promises were not kept. I am not saying that we didn't get the right guy, I just want to know why we wouldn't have at least shaken the tree on a well known winning coach who might have developed more nfl qb talent (haven't done any comparative research but he has 4) than any current G5 coach/staff. Doesn't make any sense why a call wasn't made to him. If we don't have the money, let him tell us that.
I think the MWC is under the radar and is disrespected due to East Coast bias. I’m just speculating but reports are they are poised to join the PAC 12 restart. I imagine they have beefed up their budget more than we’re capable.
How does one just “beef up” a budget without additional revenue? This tells me that it’s all fugaze. It’s vapor. It is not real.


App needs an entrepreneur as AD. A proven entrepreneur who knows how to fudge with numbers to experience the type of growth that allows you to compete above your weight class.

It is difficult to find true entrepreneurial spirit in the academic world, though.
I mean, if we really want to go down the rabbit hole, since we gave up the gold standard, is money even real? The majority of "wealth" in the world is just ones and zeros on a computer. Is perception reality?
Perception is reality, and every single person on planet Earth has their own perception of the world based upon how the information they take in is transformed and organized. Thus, there are close to 9 billion realities.


The point remains, how does one just “beef up” a budget when no official money is coming in to do so? Is this like Louisiana pulling from its General Education Fund to fund football?
I believe it is called fraud.

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