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[AppStFan1]

Read my posts on the other threads.....

DOTE comes across very harsh on here, even toxic sometimes, but he had a very close relationship with Clark and I understand it now a little better.

There is generally a lot of passion behind his posts...He definitely went off the deep end after Wyoming last year, but most of the time at least some of what he says has validity. You just have to find it.

His comments about DL right now are pointless and don't matter because there is no fact to it. If there are issues that DL has I will join him in being critical. He does have a point in some of what he says for sure. The two things he has said that I found the most crazy are defending Laney and not admitting that Shawn was taking the program down hill in our on field product. I mean for goodness sakes Laney is the one who said many times that we could never be I-A and would always be a small time regional brand/program. There are some now who say we can't be a champion again or at least not be a SBC contender regularly and people never will with a negative attitude. I am one who says tell me the roadblocks and now let's find a way to get around them. Some people just want to settle and be a big fish in a small pond or have accept mediocrity.

The comment about being a contender on a regular basis isn’t negative. It’s a real possibility in today’s landscape. The only thing that seems consistent is the roster turnover every year. It’s hard to expect consistency year in and year out any more with 40% + turnover. I’m rooting for CDL and he has my support. But my concerns for the trajectory of this program and its ability to stay at or near the top are still the same ones that I had for the last staff. We will see.

It has always been really hard to do but there are schools who will do it in this environment. Those schools are the ones who make good hires, fully embrace the changes, and do a good job of evaluating players even more if they don't have huge money. Schools like UNC will just throw money at problems but that is no guarantee and will just have mad boosters who will feel their money is wasted. I don't think any of us expect to win the SBC every single year but you just don't want to see a gradual decline in the product. There will be better seasons than others but you just don't want to feel like you have gone from a contender to a bottom of the basement team with no real sign of getting better either.

Let’s circle back to this in say 4 or 5 years and see what it looks like. I’m not looking to be right, just interested to see what the overall winning percentages of the top 10 or so G5s look like.

As to the last comment, I understand the sentiment but not meeting “expectations” isn’t the same as the basement.

This shift is still going to be like any past eras where there are good and bad hires made. For example, UNC is setting up their department like schools need to do but there is no guarantee that Bill is going to win big because everyone else is doing it. We will see if he does it well or not. I think UNC could get equal or better results that Bill will get with less money. People just want to throw money at issues but it does not guarantee to fix it. If money fixed everything then our government would be perfect and we would have no domestic issues.

I was talking about in general for a team like us. We were not in basement but we have to be proactive and make sure that we do not wait until we are to adjust.

[canes_mj]

"TeamClark" posts were never about the program, I'm insulted of how ignorant you would have to believe the posters are here to type those words.

2025 is year one of a process, buckle up.

Be insulted all you want, #TeamClark was under appreciated when those post began, I was always, along with a few on here, agreed and understood the hardships that Clark had to go through as a coach, and the man went 40-24, 3-1 in Bowl games ,4 ranked wins, not too shabby body of work, underachieved this year for sure.

Case in point #1 -

Clark didn't get a Spring practice his first year as head coach due to a Bill Gates Pandemic.

Coach DL will have a spring season. Good for him.

You know, you make a lot of good points. More people might have civil conversations with you if you weren't so abrasive and arrogant. I'm just offering some constructive criticism.

It's not as fun being any other way -- we can have private message pow wow's if you'd like, kinda like me being a message board therapist....

I like to see Appy be successful, I hate to see Appy loose their roots, it's always been the little engine that could, they have an awesome fan base that's sometimes a bit delusional.

I hate to see good people like Clark and Moore get treated unfairly by their own people and own school,
it's gotten to where outsiders come in and make a mint off of each you and leave and not care how they left it.

No one caught this? Best troll post yet. I had to smile smile smile.

"Appy"
"the little engine that could"....say stepping stone without saying it
"they"
"their"

read the last sentence......"outsiders come in and make a mint off of each you and leave and not care how they left it".....don't think that's a reference to the football team.

Well done DOTE; tip of the cap

[spacemonkey]

That would be a 28 point lead at half. Sorry!!!!!

Could be 24.

Then he would come to the middle of the field and yell "are you not entertained" and "Do any of you know a kicker to recruit"

[t4pizza]

Why does our fanbase care so much about barbecue man

If we have to explain that to you......

[DenverOfTheEast]

MY #1 GOAL IS TO FIND OUT DEEP DOWN OFF THE RECORD WHAT SHAWN ELLOITT THINKS OF HIM AND THIS HIRE FOR HIS ALMA MATER.

that will tell us all we need to know.

So doing my research -- Apparently they aren't sad to see DLO go.

#1 His staff hires will paint a BIG picture of the future. I want to see how many experienced South Carolina coaches come to Boone, NOT GA's and analyst types.

Who’s the “they”?

USC staff

[AppStFan1]

MY #1 GOAL IS TO FIND OUT DEEP DOWN OFF THE RECORD WHAT SHAWN ELLOITT THINKS OF HIM AND THIS HIRE FOR HIS ALMA MATER.

that will tell us all we need to know.

So doing my research -- Apparently they aren't sad to see DLO go.

#1 His staff hires will paint a BIG picture of the future. I want to see how many experienced South Carolina coaches come to Boone, NOT GA's and analyst types.

Who’s the “they”?

USC staff

Which staff? Haven't seen anyone say it. Even if you are friends with someone there I don't see the purpose in trying to push a negative narrative on our new head coach. We need him to succeed. I also doubt Clark would want you to do that.

[ericsaid]

MY #1 GOAL IS TO FIND OUT DEEP DOWN OFF THE RECORD WHAT SHAWN ELLOITT THINKS OF HIM AND THIS HIRE FOR HIS ALMA MATER.

that will tell us all we need to know.

So doing my research -- Apparently they aren't sad to see DLO go.

#1 His staff hires will paint a BIG picture of the future. I want to see how many experienced South Carolina coaches come to Boone, NOT GA's and analyst types.

Who’s the “they”?

USC staff

Which staff? Haven't seen anyone say it. Even if you are friends with someone there I don't see the purpose in trying to push a negative narrative on our new head coach. We need him to succeed. I also doubt Clark would want you to do that.

So you want to push propaganda by painting this as a positive, even if it isn’t, because we need him to succeed? Everyone wants him to succeed. Many of us just think that his track record shows that he won’t.

[ericsaid]

The last two-thirds of the interview were good. The first couple of questions had a strange tone from AJ, like a woman scorned.

DL sounds busy and he comes off as a grinder!

He mentioned adopting his scheme to the personnel available, which is great to hear. I would cation however that SC fans claim he didn't use Sellers strengths until the second half of the season. I didn't watch enough of their games to debate them (nor want to as they aren't the most rational group).

Calling SC fans irrational while cheering the hire of a man they wanted gone.

Troy paid the price for doing this same thing last year. Maybe it’s a one off and totally unrelated but it doesn’t really matter.

It’s all going to come down to how he adjusts to the comparatively lower talent level, and how he can elevate it to compete with those at the highest level. If Boise can do it, there is no reason that App can’t.

[AppStFan1]

So doing my research -- Apparently they aren't sad to see DLO go.

#1 His staff hires will paint a BIG picture of the future. I want to see how many experienced South Carolina coaches come to Boone, NOT GA's and analyst types.

Who’s the “they”?

USC staff

Which staff? Haven't seen anyone say it. Even if you are friends with someone there I don't see the purpose in trying to push a negative narrative on our new head coach. We need him to succeed. I also doubt Clark would want you to do that.

So you want to push propaganda by painting this as a positive, even if it isn’t, because we need him to succeed? Everyone wants him to succeed. Many of us just think that his track record shows that he won’t.

I think we need to give him a chance and hope that he succeeds. If he starts failing we all should call for change.

I don't want to push any propaganda. I just don't think anonymous comments like that do any good right now. Trust me, if he does not do well I will join in being critical.

[AppSt94]

A five year contract calls for patience.

[AppStFan1]

The last two-thirds of the interview were good. The first couple of questions had a strange tone from AJ, like a woman scorned.

DL sounds busy and he comes off as a grinder!

He mentioned adopting his scheme to the personnel available, which is great to hear. I would cation however that SC fans claim he didn't use Sellers strengths until the second half of the season. I didn't watch enough of their games to debate them (nor want to as they aren't the most rational group).

Calling SC fans irrational while cheering the hire of a man they wanted gone.

Troy paid the price for doing this same thing last year. Maybe it’s a one off and totally unrelated but it doesn’t really matter.

It’s all going to come down to how he adjusts to the comparatively lower talent level, and how he can elevate it to compete with those at the highest level. If Boise can do it, there is no reason that App can’t.

Their fans I know personally are not cheering him leaving. There are always going to be fans who downplay a departure in general because they want to minimize a loss. We will find out if he is a loss for them and gain for us in the near future.

[HurricaneYosef]

A five year contract calls for patience.

5 year contracts are pretty standard for head coaching hires

[AppSt94]

A five year contract calls for patience.

5 year contracts are pretty standard for head coaching hires

True, but the buyout makes it difficult to move on if things go sideways. Although Eric seems to be the only one rooting for failure. Maybe he can pay it.

[BambooRdApp]

Tre Lamb for president!!

[mike87]

Tre Lamb for president!!

Tre should be our new AD. He can override the play calls for football, help Kerns call the defensive alignments and probably signal in the pitches come baseball season.

[Bootsy]

“App didn’t hire the person I wanted as head coach, so I’m going to be a brat about it.”

Thanks for (yet again) making it all about you, Eric Marcia Brady.