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Maybe DG is is more forward thinking than we realized.

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Re: Maybe DG is is more forward thinking than we realized.

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:13 pm

NewApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:50 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
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Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
So far, I have won just as many games at App as has Bellichek at UNC-CH.
Same as our new coach.

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Unread post by NewApp » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:16 pm

Tru dat Plus both are getting paid more than I am.
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Re: Maybe DG is is more forward thinking than we realized.

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:43 pm

NewApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:50 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
So far, I have won just as many games at App as has Bellichek at UNC-CH.
Indeed. The point is simply that Bill has won in NFL but that does not guarantee to work in college though.

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Unread post by Bootsy » Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:13 pm

Belichick’s OK, but he’s no Tre Lamb.
Right, Eric?

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Unread post by scatman77 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:07 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:41 pm
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We will be working with significantly more funds this summer when we’re able to allocate ~20% of athletics revenue to paying athletes. Will be interesting to see how our department handles that.
Yep, that will be interesting to see how that plays. With that said, we need a sugar daddy to give us $10 million a year for NIL.😂
Actually, if you want to be proactive and aim to compete with UNC, Clemson, etc we would need one to give about 20-25M :lol:
Baby steps😂
May need to sugar daddies for that 😂
Ideally I would like for about 1,000 people to give enough for that so if one person dies we aren't in big trouble. If you have just one sugar daddy and they die then the gravy train stops.
Chancellor Norris' email yesterday stated that the December graduates were now a part of the 150,000+ alumni. Using that figure we ought to have at least half that number joining the Yosef Club.
150,000/2 = 75,000
75,000 x $20 X 12 months = $18,000,000 per year
Using the monthly bank draft for $20 a month is easy on the budget and makes substantial monies available for scholarships.

It blows my mind why our alumni base won't support athletics. I realize athletics is not a high priority for some folks which is why I used the 75,000 alumni number. I'm not a heavy-hitting Yosef Club member but if I can give while retired and on a fixed budget it shouldn't be hard for those younger than me.
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Unread post by MrCraig » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:23 am

Have y'all noticed all the social media posts about the former NFL coaches and players hyping up Loggains?
I think that's a super smart idea. It helps sell Loggains to the fans as a competent and experienced coach, and it shows recruits that he has NFL connections and the coaching ability to hang in the pros.
I'm trying to temper expectations for the first year, but I'm getting more excited the more I read and learn about this guy.

As for the original question, I think NFL experience is a big part of why Loggains was hired instead of some of the names we were throwing out.

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Unread post by fjblair » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:21 am

scatman77 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:07 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:36 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:35 pm

Yep, that will be interesting to see how that plays. With that said, we need a sugar daddy to give us $10 million a year for NIL.😂
Actually, if you want to be proactive and aim to compete with UNC, Clemson, etc we would need one to give about 20-25M :lol:
Baby steps😂
May need to sugar daddies for that 😂
Ideally I would like for about 1,000 people to give enough for that so if one person dies we aren't in big trouble. If you have just one sugar daddy and they die then the gravy train stops.
Chancellor Norris' email yesterday stated that the December graduates were now a part of the 150,000+ alumni. Using that figure we ought to have at least half that number joining the Yosef Club.
150,000/2 = 75,000
75,000 x $20 X 12 months = $18,000,000 per year
Using the monthly bank draft for $20 a month is easy on the budget and makes substantial monies available for scholarships.

It blows my mind why our alumni base won't support athletics. I realize athletics is not a high priority for some folks which is why I used the 75,000 alumni number. I'm not a heavy-hitting Yosef Club member but if I can give while retired and on a fixed budget it shouldn't be hard for those younger than me.
NIL and the portal are going to make it even harder to get support for athletics. I can't imagine it's going to inspire the average alumni/fan to give more money or join booster clubs.
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Unread post by Pikapp79 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:10 pm

fjblair wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:21 am
scatman77 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:07 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:36 pm


Actually, if you want to be proactive and aim to compete with UNC, Clemson, etc we would need one to give about 20-25M :lol:
Baby steps😂
May need to sugar daddies for that 😂
Ideally I would like for about 1,000 people to give enough for that so if one person dies we aren't in big trouble. If you have just one sugar daddy and they die then the gravy train stops.
Chancellor Norris' email yesterday stated that the December graduates were now a part of the 150,000+ alumni. Using that figure we ought to have at least half that number joining the Yosef Club.
150,000/2 = 75,000
75,000 x $20 X 12 months = $18,000,000 per year
Using the monthly bank draft for $20 a month is easy on the budget and makes substantial monies available for scholarships.

It blows my mind why our alumni base won't support athletics. I realize athletics is not a high priority for some folks which is why I used the 75,000 alumni number. I'm not a heavy-hitting Yosef Club member but if I can give while retired and on a fixed budget it shouldn't be hard for those younger than me.
NIL and the portal is going to make it even harder to get support for athletics. I can't imagine it's going to inspire the average alumni/fan to give more money or join booster clubs.
Agree, especially when revenue sharing starts. When the university starts paying players will put an end to my financial support. You either believe in the new model or you do not.

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Unread post by mtnjax » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:20 pm

scatman77 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:07 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:36 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:35 pm

Yep, that will be interesting to see how that plays. With that said, we need a sugar daddy to give us $10 million a year for NIL.😂
Actually, if you want to be proactive and aim to compete with UNC, Clemson, etc we would need one to give about 20-25M :lol:
Baby steps😂
May need to sugar daddies for that 😂
Ideally I would like for about 1,000 people to give enough for that so if one person dies we aren't in big trouble. If you have just one sugar daddy and they die then the gravy train stops.
Chancellor Norris' email yesterday stated that the December graduates were now a part of the 150,000+ alumni. Using that figure we ought to have at least half that number joining the Yosef Club.
150,000/2 = 75,000
75,000 x $20 X 12 months = $18,000,000 per year
Using the monthly bank draft for $20 a month is easy on the budget and makes substantial monies available for scholarships.

It blows my mind why our alumni base won't support athletics. I realize athletics is not a high priority for some folks which is why I used the 75,000 alumni number. I'm not a heavy-hitting Yosef Club member but if I can give while retired and on a fixed budget it shouldn't be hard for those younger than me.
It’s almost like YC needs to actually market a concept like that to the average alumni vs trying to find the big donors. Can’t think of how many times I’ve seen ppl bring up
Clemson’s IPTAY as a model for what App should try to do. But instead, they focus on getting people to join YC and by season tix to get bigger dollars from a smaller number

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Unread post by BambooRdApp » Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:29 pm

mtnjax wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:20 pm
scatman77 wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:18 am
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:07 pm
BambooRdApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:36 pm


Actually, if you want to be proactive and aim to compete with UNC, Clemson, etc we would need one to give about 20-25M :lol:
Baby steps😂
May need to sugar daddies for that 😂
Ideally I would like for about 1,000 people to give enough for that so if one person dies we aren't in big trouble. If you have just one sugar daddy and they die then the gravy train stops.
Chancellor Norris' email yesterday stated that the December graduates were now a part of the 150,000+ alumni. Using that figure we ought to have at least half that number joining the Yosef Club.
150,000/2 = 75,000
75,000 x $20 X 12 months = $18,000,000 per year
Using the monthly bank draft for $20 a month is easy on the budget and makes substantial monies available for scholarships.

It blows my mind why our alumni base won't support athletics. I realize athletics is not a high priority for some folks which is why I used the 75,000 alumni number. I'm not a heavy-hitting Yosef Club member but if I can give while retired and on a fixed budget it shouldn't be hard for those younger than me.
It’s almost like YC needs to actually market a concept like that to the average alumni vs trying to find the big donors. Can’t think of how many times I’ve seen ppl bring up
Clemson’s IPTAY as a model for what App should try to do. But instead, they focus on getting people to join YC and by season tix to get bigger dollars from a smaller number
You can do both at the same time..
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Unread post by ericsaid » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:28 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
He won with Brady? You don’t win a Super Bowl 13-3 because of your quarterback man. Give me a break with this.


Had he been given a shot with Drake Maye at QB, I can guarantee you that the Pats wouldn’t be where they are today. Mac Jones just isn’t good, but they had to take a shot when they drafted him.

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:48 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:28 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
He won with Brady? You don’t win a Super Bowl 13-3 because of your quarterback man. Give me a break with this.


Had he been given a shot with Drake Maye at QB, I can guarantee you that the Pats wouldn’t be where they are today. Mac Jones just isn’t good, but they had to take a shot when they drafted him.
You need more than that but he had really good coordinators and at one time good scouting staff but he let a lot of it go later on. Bill had all the power there and was awful without Brady on his roster. Brady did more than just QB on the field for that organization. He was a leader in many ways that was clearly missed when he left. Brady went on to win a Super Bowl while Bill had a losing record.

Through two stints as head coach without Brady we saw Bill win 45% in Cleveland and a 29-38 record in NE without Brady. Between those two he had a 65-82 overall record for a 44.2% win percentage.

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Unread post by Cro-Magnon App » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:15 pm

I’m no Bellichek fan and I’ve never been a Patriot fan nor a Tar Heel football fan. But you know and I know that Bellichek can flat out coach football - knows it, eats it, sleeps it, lives it. And I believe he will have an immediate impact and they will be in contention for the ACC title next season. Unfortunately. He’ll bring in the right coaches and they will throw the big money at all these players and the players will take it. Money rules their lives.

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Unread post by NewApp » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:41 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:43 pm
NewApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:50 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
So far, I have won just as many games at App as has Bellichek at UNC-CH.
Indeed. The point is simply that Bill has won in NFL but that does not guarantee to work in college though.
He won mostly when he had Brady??????
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Unread post by AppWyo » Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:54 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:28 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
He won with Brady? You don’t win a Super Bowl 13-3 because of your quarterback man. Give me a break with this.


Had he been given a shot with Drake Maye at QB, I can guarantee you that the Pats wouldn’t be where they are today. Mac Jones just isn’t good, but they had to take a shot when they drafted him.
Travis Hunter just won the Heisman Trophy. What I would like to know is why he is wearing a Carolina Blue Suit?

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Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:23 pm

NewApp wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 9:41 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:43 pm
NewApp wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:50 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:43 pm
Pikapp79 wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:25 pm
Carolina went with a proven winner. We hope our guy will win.
He won big with Brady but had a losing record without him. There is no guarantee. We saw Saban struggle in NFL but win in college. Bill has proven he can win in NFL but he has not proven he can win in college yet. DL has just as many CFB wins as a head coach in college as Bill does so far. It will be interesting to see how both of them do.
So far, I have won just as many games at App as has Bellichek at UNC-CH.
Indeed. The point is simply that Bill has won in NFL but that does not guarantee to work in college though.
He won mostly when he had Brady??????
The only times he won were with Brady. He failed badly in Cleveland and once Brady left he had a losing record in New England.

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