Shawn Elliot OC?

[DenverOfTheEast]

I’ll trust my sources over yours.

Brown was in the lead until Thursday.

Is this to me??, I been saying all Brown had an offer,, geezus

I was the one the posted Galloway and Dowell were interviewed... can anyone on here publicly say nice job DOTE, I meant 6/7 say it in private messages so I guess that will have to do.

[DenverOfTheEast]

OK yes Dowell was our #1 target all week, the only one we went after, blah blah blah....

I got some Lake front property in Avery County for sell.. you guys are so gullible.

At what point is enough enough with this snake? He is clearly not a fan of app state.

I been TeamClark forever and
I did NOT start the Fire Gillin thread.

So how am I the snake?


You are pissed about your new coach hire and mad at me, just admit it.

If DG made 1 offer that's someone in admin leaking that so they don't make themselves look bad, means that got told NO in preliminary talks with Brown, Woods etc. DG knows he can tell his posse we got our first offer, I actually posted that yesterday also. Everything I predict is coming true during this week.

[T-Dog]

I heard we were selling lakefront property in Avery County.

https://www.linvillelandharbor.com/listings/

[Saint3333]

“Your coach” is all anyone needs to know about DOTE.

[appvette]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

[Saint3333]

In-laws are all Gamecocks and none of them are heartbroken with their loss. They are however the NCSU of SC and struggle with reality and rationalize everything through that lens.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

OK yes Dowell was our #1 target all week, the only one we went after, blah blah blah....

I got some Lake front property in Avery County for sell.. you guys are so gullible.

At what point is enough enough with this snake? He is clearly not a fan of app state.

I been TeamClark forever and
I did NOT start the Fire Gillin thread.

So how am I the snake?


You are pissed about your new coach hire and mad at me, just admit it.

If DG made 1 offer that's someone in admin leaking that so they don't make themselves look bad, means that got told NO in preliminary talks with Brown, Woods etc. DG knows he can tell his posse we got our first offer, I actually posted that yesterday also. Everything I predict is coming true during this week.

I think most have an issue that you are Team Clark no matter the state or direction the program is heading with him at the Helm. And make it sound like App is doomed because we let go of a former App guy. If we are doomed it’s because the cupboard is bare and winning mentality has left the program. Past 3 years: 16-17 the against FBS competition. 1 bowl game. 0-3 against Coastal. 1-2 against Marshall. 1-2 against Georgia Southern. Smoked by S Alabama at home. It was time to make a change. You may have some connections, but people don’t appreciate you for that because you take backhanded swipes about the program being doomed for getting rid of Clark, when if anything, he would be the catalyst for the alleged doom.

[DenverOfTheEast]

OK yes Dowell was our #1 target all week, the only one we went after, blah blah blah....

I got some Lake front property in Avery County for sell.. you guys are so gullible.

At what point is enough enough with this snake? He is clearly not a fan of app state.

I been TeamClark forever and
I did NOT start the Fire Gillin thread.

So how am I the snake?


You are pissed about your new coach hire and mad at me, just admit it.

If DG made 1 offer that's someone in admin leaking that so they don't make themselves look bad, means that got told NO in preliminary talks with Brown, Woods etc. DG knows he can tell his posse we got our first offer, I actually posted that yesterday also. Everything I predict is coming true during this week.

I think most have an issue that you are Team Clark no matter the state or direction the program is heading with him at the Helm. And make it sound like App is doomed because we let go of a former App guy. If we are doomed it’s because the cupboard is bare and winning mentality has left the program. Past 3 years: 16-17 the against FBS competition. 1 bowl game. 0-3 against Coastal. 1-2 against Marshall. 1-2 against Georgia Southern. Smoked by S Alabama at home. It was time to make a change. You may have some connections, but people don’t appreciate you for that because you take backhanded swipes about the program being doomed for getting rid of Clark, when if anything, he would be the catalyst for the alleged doom.

No No No, I started a post after the USA loss and expressed time for a change -- go back and look, it was the beginning of the end for me. This unit wasn't recovering from that.

[Saint3333]

Imagine a world that DOTE is crying victim.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

OK yes Dowell was our #1 target all week, the only one we went after, blah blah blah....

I got some Lake front property in Avery County for sell.. you guys are so gullible.

At what point is enough enough with this snake? He is clearly not a fan of app state.

I been TeamClark forever and
I did NOT start the Fire Gillin thread.

So how am I the snake?


You are pissed about your new coach hire and mad at me, just admit it.

If DG made 1 offer that's someone in admin leaking that so they don't make themselves look bad, means that got told NO in preliminary talks with Brown, Woods etc. DG knows he can tell his posse we got our first offer, I actually posted that yesterday also. Everything I predict is coming true during this week.

I think most have an issue that you are Team Clark no matter the state or direction the program is heading with him at the Helm. And make it sound like App is doomed because we let go of a former App guy. If we are doomed it’s because the cupboard is bare and winning mentality has left the program. Past 3 years: 16-17 the against FBS competition. 1 bowl game. 0-3 against Coastal. 1-2 against Marshall. 1-2 against Georgia Southern. Smoked by S Alabama at home. It was time to make a change. You may have some connections, but people don’t appreciate you for that because you take backhanded swipes about the program being doomed for getting rid of Clark, when if anything, he would be the catalyst for the alleged doom.

No No No, I started a post after the USA loss and expressed time for a change -- go back and look, it was the beginning of the end for me. This unit wasn't recovering from that.

So you’re a waffler, cool.

[ericsaid]

We made one offer. He accepted.

You don’t make an offer that you know won’t be accepted.

What does that mean ?

That App may have wanted other candidates but didn't offer because they knew the offer wouldn't be accepted. So the idea that this was App's one offer, top of the board, top shelf, can be sold to fans even if it's a lie. This screams "donor pick" to me.

[ericsaid]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

[Seattleapp]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

Have you found a home to rent in Tulsa yet

[Saint3333]

DL was getting fired from SC..., someone's been reading too much SC message board material. People think we've got some loons here, that place ran out of tin foil a long time ago.

[ericsaid]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

Have you found a home to rent in Tulsa yet

When you can't argue the point, you attack the person making the point. Make the case as to why Kenny Loggins was a better hire than Tre Lamb? Why Kenny Loggins was so good, you don't even call Tre Lamb to get him to come over the mountain?

Many people here, and elsewhere, said "he will be there in a few years. We will wait and see". I can imagine many decision makers thought the same thing. If that's the case, it shows how out of touch with observing potential talent they are. If this turns out how I expect it to - similar to Troy in 2024 - you will come back to this, and a tear will escape your eye.

You can think it's a ridiculous take all that you want but Gillin's political capital is almost used up here. If this hire fails, Gillin will be, and should be, gone.

[ericsaid]

DL was getting fired from SC..., someone's been reading too much SC message board material. People think we've got some loons here, that place ran out of tin foil a long time ago.

And "Lamb just hasn't won enough" and "will be around in a few years".

Right. Don't trust anything you or anyone else says in regards to how this process went down. Not that is means anything, but I would be glad to be proven wrong here. If this hire fails, the mystique is gone, and App is just another FBS transition darling has been.

That is the risk. Look at Marshall. Look at their stands and fan "excitement" level. That is the risk. Gillin just bet his mortgage on this working out.

[yosef69]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

Have you found a home to rent in Tulsa yet

He just can’t see the vision because he is 33 and Loggains is 44. He and Tre lamb are both 33. Don’t you know?

[AppStFan1]

Many of their fans want Mike Shula promoted to OC

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

I heard Lamb was among names of interest early but some issues popped up that Gillin wanted to avoid. Not sure if true and surely if so Tulsa was not worried about it. It could be that Gillin decided to get someone with NFL experience because college is becoming more like the NFL.

We need to give Loggains a chance. If we are a circus in 2-3 years then I will be among those calling for change but I think we have to give him a chance and support him. He won't succeed if we all turn on him now and don't provide support.

[ASU843]

Imagine a world that DOTE is crying victim.

Take it easy man. DOTE knows everything and is right about everything. We should be grateful that he is sharing his wisdom with all of us!

[hapapp]

They want Mike Shula? Most are Panthers fans, right? The Panthers finally have the offense I had hoped to see with Cam there, it only took six years after he left.

I wouldn’t want Shula within 120 miles of Boone. The fact they want him in at USC is hilarious.

USC fans are coping with their OC loss by saying the reason for their mid-season improvement is Shula started calling the plays. From that lens, it makes sense.

App just made the same mistake Troy made. Troy brought in a guy that Notre Dame fans wanted fired. App just brought in a guy that was demoted from his primary responsibility. Wouldn't even schedule an interview with Tre Lamb who was right over the mountain and who ended up getting hired by Tulsa.

What. A. Joke.

In 2 years, if this looks as bad as it seems it's going to look, Gillin has to go. He got lucky with inheriting Satterfield, and then he picked a guy who just didn't scew up in Drinkwitz. Then he hired Clark and now this guy who has never been around winning football teams as a coordinator. The one time he began doing alright, he was demoted from his primary responsibility.

WTF is happening to App football right now?

Have you found a home to rent in Tulsa yet

When you can't argue the point, you attack the person making the point. Make the case as to why Kenny Loggins was a better hire than Tre Lamb? Why Kenny Loggins was so good, you don't even call Tre Lamb to get him to come over the mountain?

Many people here, and elsewhere, said "he will be there in a few years. We will wait and see". I can imagine many decision makers thought the same thing. If that's the case, it shows how out of touch with observing potential talent they are. If this turns out how I expect it to - similar to Troy in 2024 - you will come back to this, and a tear will escape your eye.

You can think it's a ridiculous take all that you want but Gillin's political capital is almost used up here. If this hire fails, Gillin will be, and should be, gone.

I'm sorry, but stop acting like a child who didn't get his way. You've stated your support for Lamb and disdain for Loggains. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but how many times are you going repeat the same argument. I would suggest we wait and see what happens before we assume the worst. You can stomp your feet all you want but that's not going to change a thing at this point.