App St football = POOP

[Stonewall]

This may be off the subject, but just wanted to speak on what I have seen this season. First of all App St football is not poop. Having said that, we have a QB with a world class arm and honestly just a terrific player. We don't utilize Chase as we should...seems like we only start airing it out when we get down as we did against Coastal. It's like we are running half an offense. Our offense has been predicated on a mobile qb in years past with a true RPO threat. We don't have that with Chase. But our coaches have not adapted our offense to fit Chase's true talents. We bring everybody in...run 2 tights...and try to run up the gut or around the edge and the problems with that are we are not running the ball well consistantly and our offensive line is built to be a mobile unit....they simply are not that line thats gonna guarantee to get that 1 or 2 yards on fourth and short. Which brings me to the point with SC. He has got to make better decisions on fourth down. Why we are going for it on fourth and short on our side of the 50 is mind boggling especially when it wasn't even the 4th qtr and we're only down 1 possession. I hate to say it but that loss was at least partially on that poor decision. I do like SC and hope he can right the ship. We have 3 games left...would be great to win all 3...but ...GaSouthern gonna be tough but its winnable...@ Marshall...i think its a 50/50 game...we'll see what happens. Theres still a lot to play for...a winning record in the conference and a bowl...winning out would be an amazing turnaround and I believe we have the talent to do it.

Can't argue with that

[teller]

Just bumpin this back up. I believed this 2024 team had/hasthe talent, but it is not been effectively utilized by coaching staff.

[bcoach]

Just bumpin this back up. I believed this 2024 team had/hasthe talent, but it is not been effectively utilized by coaching staff.

If that is true we need to get them over to the stadium, give them uniforms, and put them in.

[Bootsy]

Reading back through these posts has been interesting. Some aged well, others...not so much.

[PhillyApp1]

The truth is evident to see.... week after week

The next 3 weeks will be brutal, even if we win.

Dec. 3 can't come fast enough

My hope is in " Next Staff Up"

Good wishes to the current staff BUT it's time

[app97]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

[311neers]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

[t4pizza]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

[AppStFan1]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

[AppinVA]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L1iH7vhoUxo

[t4pizza]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

[AppStFan1]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

I can see this being 50/50 but not a fan of it. Players can earn NIL at a JUCO. It would just have to be NIL and not pay for play because JUCOs don't make money like that. Joey would re-write a lot of records, including break the record for the most picks in school history at this point as well.

If we could bring Joey back I think he would need to come at a discount but if we have a coaching change we would have to see what the new coach wants at QB before agreeing to anything,

[T-Dog]

This thread title reminds me of when I was a kid and my family was taking one of several breaks we took from our home church where we'd visit 5 churchs in 5 weeks and then go back once the hurt feelings subsided.

So, one week, we partook in one of the bigger local church's youth group, and the youth pastor was pastoring us youths. Somewhere near the end, he said not being saved was like stepping in a big pile of poo. Except he had a southern twang and said it like "pooouuu." I can't really do it justice, but it was hilarious. We all giggled, and this upset him. "There's nothing funny about poooouuu." he kept on saying to more snickers and giggles. Eventually, he realized he needed to stop saying poooouuu and made us all pray for like 5 minutes straight.

Anytime I see poop or poo I immediately think of poooouuu.

[ASUTodd]

Imagine not being favored to win against the mighty UNCC 49ers in BOA next August. That very well could be the case.

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Including the record for interceptions. Joey is awesome when he realizes he can tuck the ball and run, throw it out of bounds, or has enough time to make his reads (he takes his time sometimes). Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

[bcoach]

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Including the record for interceptions. Joey is awesome when he realizes he can tuck the ball and run, throw it out of bounds, or has enough time to make his reads (he takes his time sometimes). Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

We need a new QB. Passing records mean absolutly nothing when you lose the games. The only record I am interested in is win loss.

[ASUTodd]

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Including the record for interceptions. Joey is awesome when he realizes he can tuck the ball and run, throw it out of bounds, or has enough time to make his reads (he takes his time sometimes). Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

We need a new QB. Passing records mean absolutly nothing when you lose the games. The only record I am interested in is win loss.

I agree with you. I'm not sure 2 more years of Joey would be good....unless we find a coach that can focus him and help him learn.

[Bootsy]

A lot of talent gone next year.
Joey, Kaedin, Marshall, Horn, Harrington, list goes on. Almost seems like we need a fresh start.
Will have to find a qb in the portal to be competitive. I wouldn’t mind finding a coach who could bring their QB with him.

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless.

When did Clark say this? If it’s true (and please understand that I’m not discounting what you’re saying), that’s one of the most idiotic things that could ever come from a coach’s mouth. Talk about tipping your hand to opposing teams…

[ASUTodd]

Maybe "not so fast" on Joey. Vandy QB filed lawsuit against NCAA and if he prevails, Joey will get extra years. Something to keep an eye on for sure.

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

When did Clark say this? If it’s true (and please understand that I’m not discounting what you’re saying), that’s one of the most idiotic things that could ever come from a coach’s mouth.

It was in one of the pressers he did. Unless I totally misunderstood what he was saying. I don't remember if it was a post game presser,mountaineer talk, or pregame. I'll see if I can find it.

[AppStFan1]

I thought Joey showed up to college in 2021? Vandy QB is over the 2020 season I thought?

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

When did Clark say this? If it’s true (and please understand that I’m not discounting what you’re saying), that’s one of the most idiotic things that could ever come from a coach’s mouth.

It was in one of the pressers he did. Unless I totally misunderstood what he was saying. I don't remember if it was a post game presser,mountaineer talk, or pregame. I'll see if I can find it.

That is a huge issue, if true. I would advise Joey to not even waste his time trying the NFL after the season if he is that hard headed. SMH.

[bcoach]

I haven't read the actual lawsuit but based on articles that I have read, it seems like the issue is the NCAA limiting Jr. College players to less than 4 years of NCAA eligibility. I don't think it has anything to do with covid waivers (could be wrong though). It actually makes sense and could have legs. The NCAA has no authority over Jr. College athletes whatsoever, so why should they be able to limit how many years they could play in the NCAA after they leave Jr. College. I would have said no way this would fly several years ago, but nowadays it may just work. Part of the allegation is that the limitation on Jr. College players eligibility prohibits their ability to collect NIL. Again, I haven't actually read the complaint, but I think it could have legs. If so, Joey would have 2 more years of eligibility, he would rewrite every passing record in App history if that were the case.

Clark has even said that Joey goes to the line with who he is throwing to already picked out and is going to throw to that person regardless. He's got a big arm and a lot of guts.....but his decision making this year has been abysmal at times.

When did Clark say this? If it’s true (and please understand that I’m not discounting what you’re saying), that’s one of the most idiotic things that could ever come from a coach’s mouth.

It was in one of the pressers he did. Unless I totally misunderstood what he was saying. I don't remember if it was a post game presser,mountaineer talk, or pregame. I'll see if I can find it.

That is a huge issue, if true. I would advise Joey to not even waste his time trying the NFL after the season if he is that hard headed. SMH.

I don't think you will need to advise him on that.