Sorry but if he has another mediocre year he most definitely deserves to be fired.
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You could look at it that way and I would have 10 years ago. 30+ plus years of driving up the mountain for games has been fun. Now in the era of NIL, portal and mediocre performance it’s becoming borderline no fun. One guys opinion but I doubt I’m the only one.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:59 amWhoever the coach is, I will be a season ticket holder as long as I can afford it.
Cancelling season tickets reaks of fair weather fan-ism
To each his own.
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It’s still fun, for now. But getting blown out at home by a bad team can’t happen again. Or else no one will show up. Students make up 50+% of the attendance. Lose them and we’re back to the 2010-2015 interest.Pikapp79 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:00 amYou could look at it that way and I would have 10 years ago. 30+ plus years of driving up the mountain for games has been fun. Now in the era of NIL, portal and mediocre performance it’s becoming borderline no fun. One guys opinion but I doubt I’m the only one.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:59 amWhoever the coach is, I will be a season ticket holder as long as I can afford it.
Cancelling season tickets reaks of fair weather fan-ism
To each his own.
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6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
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Clemson wasn’t a blip, they were just that good. App was very close to being a 10-2 team or better in 2023.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:34 pmHow many “blips” can you have before it’s a pattern?ericsaid wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:27 pmMy opinion is that Gillin should’ve looked at the schedule and opposed this game being played on a Thursday. A Saturday evening away game, followed by a Thursday home game in a conference opener against a team with a new coaching staff.
Meanwhile USA had a Division 2 quality FCS opponent that they inexplicably scheduled on a Thursday giving them a full 7 days, and more than likely longer than that to prep for App. It isn’t an excuse but I will withhold judgment on what the outcome of this game means until after Liberty.
If App comes out and looks like App, it’s a blip. Clemson is really good, unexpectedly. South Alabama may be good but there were a lot of extra factors at play against USA that won’t come into play the rest of the year.
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Careful what you wish for. ECU fired Ruffin, hired who they thought would be an upgrade in Scottie Montgomery, ran their athletics program into the ground and football went 3-9 for three or four straight years and they are still climbing out of that hole.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:22 am6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
If App fires Clark and hires the wrong replacement, you all haven’t seen anything yet.
The only option, in my opinion, is Ponce or Tre Lamb. I’d like to see what Ponce could do running a program considering his demeanor, his ability to scout talent out of the dirt, and his now commitment to App. I don’t know at what point you become an “App guy” but he’s been around longer than any student and player would be so that shouldn’t be an issue.
Tre Lamb is obvious. He played App to 28 points, had a close game in 2023, and should have beaten a good NDSU team this year with a team that was utter garbage just a year ago. He is the young, driven, forward thinking mind you need for a program like App. He is also relatively new to the point that it would take three years before a P4 program trusted him to take over.
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If South Alabama keeps playing the way they are, we may see them in the Sun Belt Championship game.311neers wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:04 amIt’s still fun, for now. But getting blown out at home by a bad team can’t happen again. Or else no one will show up. Students make up 50+% of the attendance. Lose them and we’re back to the 2010-2015 interest.Pikapp79 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:00 amYou could look at it that way and I would have 10 years ago. 30+ plus years of driving up the mountain for games has been fun. Now in the era of NIL, portal and mediocre performance it’s becoming borderline no fun. One guys opinion but I doubt I’m the only one.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:59 amWhoever the coach is, I will be a season ticket holder as long as I can afford it.
Cancelling season tickets reaks of fair weather fan-ism
To each his own.
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So, you want to hire a guy who has not been able to to run the ball the last two years..not being a smarta$$... genuinely askingericsaid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:41 amCareful what you wish for. ECU fired Ruffin, hired who they thought would be an upgrade in Scottie Montgomery, ran their athletics program into the ground and football went 3-9 for three or four straight years and they are still climbing out of that hole.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:22 am6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
If App fires Clark and hires the wrong replacement, you all haven’t seen anything yet.
The only option, in my opinion, is Ponce or Tre Lamb. I’d like to see what Ponce could do running a program considering his demeanor, his ability to scout talent out of the dirt, and his now commitment to App. I don’t know at what point you become an “App guy” but he’s been around longer than any student and player would be so that shouldn’t be an issue.
Tre Lamb is obvious. He played App to 28 points, had a close game in 2023, and should have beaten a good NDSU team this year with a team that was utter garbage just a year ago. He is the young, driven, forward thinking mind you need for a program like App. He is also relatively new to the point that it would take three years before a P4 program trusted him to take over.
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I didn't express any wishes. I dare say, in the event we are looking for a new coach, there is likely someone out there that no one here has even thought of or is aware of at the moment. To suggest it has to be one of two people is absurd.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:41 amCareful what you wish for. ECU fired Ruffin, hired who they thought would be an upgrade in Scottie Montgomery, ran their athletics program into the ground and football went 3-9 for three or four straight years and they are still climbing out of that hole.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:22 am6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
If App fires Clark and hires the wrong replacement, you all haven’t seen anything yet.
The only option, in my opinion, is Ponce or Tre Lamb. I’d like to see what Ponce could do running a program considering his demeanor, his ability to scout talent out of the dirt, and his now commitment to App. I don’t know at what point you become an “App guy” but he’s been around longer than any student and player would be so that shouldn’t be an issue.
Tre Lamb is obvious. He played App to 28 points, had a close game in 2023, and should have beaten a good NDSU team this year with a team that was utter garbage just a year ago. He is the young, driven, forward thinking mind you need for a program like App. He is also relatively new to the point that it would take three years before a P4 program trusted him to take over.
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Why do some of you keep saying that Alabama state isn’t any good or not very good? My eyeballs say they are pretty damn good.
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I don’t follow HBCU FCS that closely. Tell me more about Alabama State.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:00 pmWhy do some of you keep saying that Alabama state isn’t any good or not very good? My eyeballs say they are pretty damn good.
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My bad. South BamaAppinVA wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:18 pmI don’t follow HBCU FCS that closely. Tell me more about Alabama State.Bigdaddyg1 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:00 pmWhy do some of you keep saying that Alabama state isn’t any good or not very good? My eyeballs say they are pretty damn good.
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Lamb would be a lazy and terrible choice. We don’t need a guy learning on the job even if he is a fan favorite. Now go and prove yourself at a lower level program and the scenario may be different.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:41 amCareful what you wish for. ECU fired Ruffin, hired who they thought would be an upgrade in Scottie Montgomery, ran their athletics program into the ground and football went 3-9 for three or four straight years and they are still climbing out of that hole.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:22 am6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
If App fires Clark and hires the wrong replacement, you all haven’t seen anything yet.
The only option, in my opinion, is Ponce or Tre Lamb. I’d like to see what Ponce could do running a program considering his demeanor, his ability to scout talent out of the dirt, and his now commitment to App. I don’t know at what point you become an “App guy” but he’s been around longer than any student and player would be so that shouldn’t be an issue.
Tre Lamb is obvious. He played App to 28 points, had a close game in 2023, and should have beaten a good NDSU team this year with a team that was utter garbage just a year ago. He is the young, driven, forward thinking mind you need for a program like App. He is also relatively new to the point that it would take three years before a P4 program trusted him to take over.
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ericsaid wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:41 amCareful what you wish for. ECU fired Ruffin, hired who they thought would be an upgrade in Scottie Montgomery, ran their athletics program into the ground and football went 3-9 for three or four straight years and they are still climbing out of that hole.hapapp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:22 am6-6 is mediocre, 9 and 10 win seasons is not mediocre by definition. That’s not meant to be a statement of support of the season’s progress but rather a look at the body of work. It may be beneath previous standards but I wouldn’t describe the entirety of his tenure as mediocre.
If App fires Clark and hires the wrong replacement, you all haven’t seen anything yet.
The only option, in my opinion, is Ponce or Tre Lamb. I’d like to see what Ponce could do running a program considering his demeanor, his ability to scout talent out of the dirt, and his now commitment to App. I don’t know at what point you become an “App guy” but he’s been around longer than any student and player would be so that shouldn’t be an issue.
Tre Lamb is obvious. He played App to 28 points, had a close game in 2023, and should have beaten a good NDSU team this year with a team that was utter garbage just a year ago. He is the young, driven, forward thinking mind you need for a program like App. He is also relatively new to the point that it would take three years before a P4 program trusted him to take over.
Lamb would be a lazy and terrible choice. We don’t need a guy learning on the job even if he is a fan favorite. Now go and prove yourself at a lower level program and the scenario may be different.
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All teams are dealing with nil and portal...if that is what is the decision maker for someone..it is what it is..Pikapp79 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:00 amYou could look at it that way and I would have 10 years ago. 30+ plus years of driving up the mountain for games has been fun. Now in the era of NIL, portal and mediocre performance it’s becoming borderline no fun. One guys opinion but I doubt I’m the only one.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:59 amWhoever the coach is, I will be a season ticket holder as long as I can afford it.
Cancelling season tickets reaks of fair weather fan-ism
To each his own.
I look at it from a university alumni perspective...will support until I cannot afford to do so .
It is a choice whether a one year fan or a 50 year fan ..
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I don’t think anyone gives unconditional support to any coach…. But some are more patient.
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6-6 mediocre, other 3 season were good/greatRaleighApp27609 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:58 amSorry but if he has another mediocre year he most definitely deserves to be fired.
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UNC average at best this year, 2 SC teams played much better UNC teams to overtime games...also went in to College Station and got a big win, even if was not the best A&M team, still a signature win.