Realistic coaching options for 2025...

[ASUFan4863]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

[yosef69]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

The dude has 100s of app fans blocked on twitter. Miracle on the mtn, countless ass whoopings. He hates us. He will have 30 million in the bank. No shot, I’d put 10k on it.

[ASUFan4863]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

The dude has 100s of app fans blocked on twitter. Miracle on the mtn, countless ass whoopings. He hates us. He will have 30 million in the bank. No shot, I’d put 10k on it.

Fair enough lol. Maybe we are both so desperate it works.

[BeauFoster]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

He has been mentioned numerous times. My opinion is that I will cancel all donations I make to App if he’s brought in

[DenverOfTheEast]

hey #TeamClark I cannot defend that comment regarding the effort, I have went as far as I can go.

Clark needed to have more say in his non conference schedule in order to coach long term and clearly he has no say in that - it partly cost Jim Fox his job and will partly cost Shawn Clark his job(he should let Kerns do his non conference scheduling honestly)

I honestly don't see any growth in Clark as a Head Coach, not sure he has gotten better in his position -
The team is failing in personnel decisions(recruiting) - failing in tackling - failing in running the ball - failing in motivating = 3 poor starts - failing in making plays on 3rd downs - failing in being the CEO of the program - Portal guys don't work at App State - it's not the foundation of the program.

Satt won with HS kids growing up at App within the program and obviously Drink inherited those kids, Clark had them for first 2 seasons, but the game has changed and traditional coaches like Clark are not use to that are NOT good with portal kids, it's just the way it is.

Need to find a guy like Curt Cignetti --- that won at different smaller places and worked his way up the ladder, look what he's doing now at Indiana, not sure its sustainable but he's kicking the sh*t out of teams so far. A P5 OC's and DC's candidates make too much money unless they are bottom of the P5 programs.

Gillin needs to go as well, here is why. Everts never wanted Clark, Gillin listened to the players, it was good for 2 seasons, BUT incomes the Portal and NIL and Gillin refused to help the program behind the scenes in areas that needed it in the new landscape. Plus Gillin listens to Ricks and Sofield way to much - that whole incest situation needs to be removed.

Outsider as the Head Coach
New voice as the head of athletics
New Chancellor

The whole place needs a new energy!!

Entitlement has crept in from the fan base as well.

I predicted in 2015 (verbally told Randy Jackson) that after the excitement of FBS wears off App would turn into a purgatory of football like a MAC school or Marshall did, and look where we are.

Can someone please tell me what specifically are the complaints with the schedule? I don’t get it. Yes thev4 day turnaround isn’t ideal but Doug can’t control that we are the marquee brand (for now) in the sunbelt and ESPN is going to pick us for games. Another year or 2 of this and we won’t have to worry about being picked for Thursday night national tv games.

I simply do not accept your defeatism on Apps future. There is a place in college football for App to not be blown out by south Alabama.

We are a growing university in a growing state with a top 5 g5 fanbase. There is zero reason to resign ourselves to a Mac future

It is the placement of where you put these games on the calendar and who you have following those games....

yesterday pregame ESPN article from 2 seasons ago said after the Texas A M in and college game day and hail marry to beat Troy the team was mentally exhausted.

last season fly to Wyoming come home, fly to Monroe

this year play Clemson and ECU back to back and now short week for USA

See my point the "placement' of these games....

being a growing university has nothing to do with it - App State is not on a NFL cushy 787 jet traveling these places either.

DG only has control over non conference games and this is done years in advance. He can't tell ESPN or the sunbelt when to schedule conference games. Wyoming was a good series nearly everyone applauded, same with Boise State. We have to play someone when we get back. I'm sure he tried to schedule an easy home game after each, but sometimes it doesn't work out. at clemson and at ecu are almost universally applauded series, and clemson is literally the only buy game we have scheduled (although after that and last night these might be easier to schedule).

its a shame that ESPN values our brand so much, but theres not an athletic department in the G5 that can afford to turn down ESPN.

I know what DG has control over -- and his placement of the games has failed his soon to be fired Head Coach

2024
Clemson shoulda been Game 1
ETSU game 2
ECU shoulda been game 3 and try to get it on a Friday night

No control over USA - I understand that.

2022 -
UNC at Home then back to back games at Texas A M straight into Troy game... -- that is really poor.

Instead of opening up with softballs like 1-AA teams they should be before the Sun Belt games begin after the tough non conf games.

[DenverOfTheEast]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

Yo don't get fired and paid 26 million dollars and then come to Boone to coach... be realistic - he wouldn't be motivated and App needs someone hungry and energetic. going to be a rebuild project.

[BambooRdApp]

If App St. evers hires Billy "Furman Sucks" Napier, my NEZ seats will become available on the open market the day after it is announced... although I am grateful to him for the INT

[fjblair]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

That would make no sense for him, and he would never be accepted by the App State fan base.

[Mjohn1988]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

That would make no sense for him, and he would never be accepted by the App State fan base.

The vast majority of the App State fan base couldn’t tell you who Napier is. He proved that he knows how to elevate a G5 program. That work for me.

[EastHallApp]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

I brought him up, and several people got mad about it. (Though several also liked the post.)

Since people have strong feelings, and I don't want to assume here, let put out the question to those who really dislike him: What are your issues with him? Is it something personal? You don't think he's a good coach? Or just that he was a rival at Furman and ULL?

[falcoapp]

Just because you have heard of Billy Napier and he has some marginal success at UL does not make him a top contender. Countless other OCs/DCs that you have never heard have would make better candidates.

[BallantyneApp]

95% chance he wouldn’t come regardless due to having $26mm in the bank.

Even if he’s interested we’d have to commit several million to his system, which is to hire like 75 staffers.

[fjblair]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

That would make no sense for him, and he would never be accepted by the App State fan base.

The vast majority of the App State fan base couldn’t tell you who Napier is. He proved that he knows how to elevate a G5 program. That work for me.

The ones that donate the money know.

[EastHallApp]

95% chance he wouldn’t come regardless due to having $26mm in the bank.

Even if he’s interested we’d have to commit several million to his system, which is to hire like 75 staffers.

As someone who would have Napier near the top of my list, that last point seems like a much bigger concern/likely stumbling block for me than the fact that he played at an old SoCon rival or blocked some App fans on Twitter.

[BallantyneApp]

I don’t care to go through each page of each thread but has Napier been recommended? He is getting a bad rap at UF right now but he has proven to build a program in the G5 through the OL and defense.

That would make no sense for him, and he would never be accepted by the App State fan base.

The vast majority of the App State fan base couldn’t tell you who Napier is. He proved that he knows how to elevate a G5 program. That work for me.

The ones that donate the money know.

What is there on our side t hold a grudge against Napier? He played for Furman who offered him a scholarship. He built a team to beat app which was kind of his job. I mean if he doesn’t like us he’s not going to pick up the phone but I don’t see why we should hold a grudge

[EastHallApp]

Just because you have heard of Billy Napier and he has some marginal success at UL does not make him a top contender. Countless other OCs/DCs that you have never heard have would make better candidates.

If three straight 10+ win seasons and two straight top 20 national finishes is marginal success, then sign me up for marginal success.

[appgrad95&97]

Why Napier and not Mullen? Both fired by Florida. Does anyone think Napier is a better coach? Mullen has had 3 (I think) years away from coaching. I'm just curious why?

[WASU 93]

hey #TeamClark I cannot defend that comment regarding the effort, I have went as far as I can go.

Clark needed to have more say in his non conference schedule in order to coach long term and clearly he has no say in that - it partly cost Jim Fox his job and will partly cost Shawn Clark his job(he should let Kerns do his non conference scheduling honestly)

I honestly don't see any growth in Clark as a Head Coach, not sure he has gotten better in his position -
The team is failing in personnel decisions(recruiting) - failing in tackling - failing in running the ball - failing in motivating = 3 poor starts - failing in making plays on 3rd downs - failing in being the CEO of the program - Portal guys don't work at App State - it's not the foundation of the program.

Satt won with HS kids growing up at App within the program and obviously Drink inherited those kids, Clark had them for first 2 seasons, but the game has changed and traditional coaches like Clark are not use to that are NOT good with portal kids, it's just the way it is.

Need to find a guy like Curt Cignetti --- that won at different smaller places and worked his way up the ladder, look what he's doing now at Indiana, not sure its sustainable but he's kicking the sh*t out of teams so far. A P5 OC's and DC's candidates make too much money unless they are bottom of the P5 programs.

Gillin needs to go as well, here is why. Everts never wanted Clark, Gillin listened to the players, it was good for 2 seasons, BUT incomes the Portal and NIL and Gillin refused to help the program behind the scenes in areas that needed it in the new landscape. Plus Gillin listens to Ricks and Sofield way to much - that whole incest situation needs to be removed.

Outsider as the Head Coach
New voice as the head of athletics
New Chancellor

The whole place needs a new energy!!

Entitlement has crept in from the fan base as well.

I predicted in 2015 (verbally told Randy Jackson) that after the excitement of FBS wears off App would turn into a purgatory of football like a MAC school or Marshall did, and look where we are.

Can someone please tell me what specifically are the complaints with the schedule? I don’t get it. Yes thev4 day turnaround isn’t ideal but Doug can’t control that we are the marquee brand (for now) in the sunbelt and ESPN is going to pick us for games. Another year or 2 of this and we won’t have to worry about being picked for Thursday night national tv games.

I simply do not accept your defeatism on Apps future. There is a place in college football for App to not be blown out by south Alabama.

We are a growing university in a growing state with a top 5 g5 fanbase. There is zero reason to resign ourselves to a Mac future

It is the placement of where you put these games on the calendar and who you have following those games....

yesterday pregame ESPN article from 2 seasons ago said after the Texas A M in and college game day and hail marry to beat Troy the team was mentally exhausted.

last season fly to Wyoming come home, fly to Monroe

this year play Clemson and ECU back to back and now short week for USA

See my point the "placement' of these games....

being a growing university has nothing to do with it - App State is not on a NFL cushy 787 jet traveling these places either.

DG only has control over non conference games and this is done years in advance. He can't tell ESPN or the sunbelt when to schedule conference games. Wyoming was a good series nearly everyone applauded, same with Boise State. We have to play someone when we get back. I'm sure he tried to schedule an easy home game after each, but sometimes it doesn't work out. at clemson and at ecu are almost universally applauded series, and clemson is literally the only buy game we have scheduled (although after that and last night these might be easier to schedule).

its a shame that ESPN values our brand so much, but theres not an athletic department in the G5 that can afford to turn down ESPN.

I know what DG has control over -- and his placement of the games has failed his soon to be fired Head Coach

2024
Clemson shoulda been Game 1
ETSU game 2
ECU shoulda been game 3 and try to get it on a Friday night

No control over USA - I understand that.

2022 -
UNC at Home then back to back games at Texas A M straight into Troy game... -- that is really poor.

Instead of opening up with softballs like 1-AA teams they should be before the Sun Belt games begin after the tough non conf games.

So, DG is going to get Clemson to move the UGA game to play us in Week 1.

You can’t say anyone anytime and then have caveats. And, playing Clemson week 1 wouldn’t have been worse.

If anything, he should have lobbied to not play USA on a short week, but you want ESPN exposure in Boone. (You just can’t lay an egg of the biggest proportions possible)

[Mjohn1988]

Can someone please tell me what specifically are the complaints with the schedule? I don’t get it. Yes thev4 day turnaround isn’t ideal but Doug can’t control that we are the marquee brand (for now) in the sunbelt and ESPN is going to pick us for games. Another year or 2 of this and we won’t have to worry about being picked for Thursday night national tv games.

I simply do not accept your defeatism on Apps future. There is a place in college football for App to not be blown out by south Alabama.

We are a growing university in a growing state with a top 5 g5 fanbase. There is zero reason to resign ourselves to a Mac future

It is the placement of where you put these games on the calendar and who you have following those games....

yesterday pregame ESPN article from 2 seasons ago said after the Texas A M in and college game day and hail marry to beat Troy the team was mentally exhausted.

last season fly to Wyoming come home, fly to Monroe

this year play Clemson and ECU back to back and now short week for USA

See my point the "placement' of these games....

being a growing university has nothing to do with it - App State is not on a NFL cushy 787 jet traveling these places either.

DG only has control over non conference games and this is done years in advance. He can't tell ESPN or the sunbelt when to schedule conference games. Wyoming was a good series nearly everyone applauded, same with Boise State. We have to play someone when we get back. I'm sure he tried to schedule an easy home game after each, but sometimes it doesn't work out. at clemson and at ecu are almost universally applauded series, and clemson is literally the only buy game we have scheduled (although after that and last night these might be easier to schedule).

its a shame that ESPN values our brand so much, but theres not an athletic department in the G5 that can afford to turn down ESPN.

I know what DG has control over -- and his placement of the games has failed his soon to be fired Head Coach

2024
Clemson shoulda been Game 1
ETSU game 2
ECU shoulda been game 3 and try to get it on a Friday night

No control over USA - I understand that.

2022 -
UNC at Home then back to back games at Texas A M straight into Troy game... -- that is really poor.

Instead of opening up with softballs like 1-AA teams they should be before the Sun Belt games begin after the tough non conf games.

So, DG is going to get Clemson to move the UGA game to play us in Week 1.

You can’t say anyone anytime and then have caveats. And, playing Clemson week 1 wouldn’t have been worse.

If anything, he should have lobbied to not play USA on a short week, but you want ESPN exposure in Boone. (You just can’t lay an egg of the biggest proportions possible)

If we can’t compete with USA on a short week we have much bigger problems than our schedule. We won’t have to worry about Thursday night games for much longer. Those go to the high profile G5 teams.

[MrCraig]

Why Napier and not Mullen? Both fired by Florida. Does anyone think Napier is a better coach? Mullen has had 3 (I think) years away from coaching. I'm just curious why?

I can tell you that Mullen is in no hurry to get back into coaching. He has had offers the past few years and turned them all down to work for ESPN.
Mullen is definitely the better coach. I don't think either one of them will want to come to Boone.
Best bet is to find the best OC that wants to be a HC in the country and go get them.