Stadium experience Director

[NewApp]

Appstate news did you read my post? I made it clear i wasn’t calling anyone asshole. I know the track has been roughly finished but last i saw in here the infield for field events was not finished nor a grandstand for spectators was not.

I did. And I know you're not that dense. You knew exactly what you were doing. That's like me saying "really, we all are just sorry for you" when we all know that's a lie.

Again, get educated before being a negative Nancy about everything. Things will be ok. I understand you're a crochety old man, but take some deep breaths and just relax.

You, too.

[APPdiesel]

What did the west tower take - 2 seasons? 25 seems like a long shot, but 26 should be pretty reasonable (barring major supply chain issues or something crazy like a global pandemic)

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

[appdaze]

I am just like you guys. Just not bitching about the same things you guys are,. No more petty than you. No more sensitive than you. No more angry than you. No more crotchety than you. No more negative than you guys (wait til we lose a football game). Or barely beat an opponent we should have pummeled,. Wait till the coach calls the "wrong" play. Wait til a ref makes a call in favor of the other team. Wait till the contractor doesn't build something exactly the way we wanted or doesn't finish in time. Wait until we don't fire a coach we thought should have been., Wait until we hire someone we don't want. etc etc etc

I was in favor of moving up to I-A (FBS) but not at the expense of cutting non-rev sports. Track was our perennially best winning sport. Non rev producing though. Soccer was king back in asu66' day. Competed on a national stage with Vaughn Christian and Hank Steinbrecher (sp) (who coached asu66).. Baseball beat some of the big boys from time to time. Cremins took us to the NCAA Basketball tourney after having sucked for years and kinda of newly out of NAIA. Baseball, even in NAIA days picked off some of the big boys...with no athletic scholarships.
Point is, we can do this again. But we don't show many signs of it. Football is booming, but the other sports, not so much. Our football facilities are top notch. But we want bigger and better. Not a bad thing but maybe too zealous. maybe.

Please don't get this thread nuked too. Your antics are seriously getting old. Please get whatever professional help will assist your life. Maybe your posts can just be deleted or something. No one wants to hear your off-the-wall rants that just get perfectly good threads nuked.

[Tru2ASU]

If I am betting in Vegas, my bet on the season it will be actually ready is 2027 season.

That may be too soon but 4 years seems doable. Would rather us be patient and get it right this go round. Need to make sure we have the contingency funds and engineering correct! Can’t re-do something after it’s already up!

Correct on all points. Already seeing issues with Grandview. If East is done by 2025 if they start this fall, I would refuse to sit on that side.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

It would be a real shame if we didn't redo everything over there. It's a great thing we decided to do the west side as that's the side you can really see from the road and entering the stadium.

If our stadium was rotated 180 degrees, it would be one of the worst in the G5 looking at it from the road.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

Correct on all points. Already seeing issues with Grandview. If East is done by 2025 if they start this fall, I would refuse to sit on that side.

Just curious, what kind of issues? That's a bit concerning.

[NewApp]

I am just like you guys. Just not bitching about the same things you guys are,. No more petty than you. No more sensitive than you. No more angry than you. No more crotchety than you. No more negative than you guys (wait til we lose a football game). Or barely beat an opponent we should have pummeled,. Wait till the coach calls the "wrong" play. Wait til a ref makes a call in favor of the other team. Wait till the contractor doesn't build something exactly the way we wanted or doesn't finish in time. Wait until we don't fire a coach we thought should have been., Wait until we hire someone we don't want. etc etc etc

I was in favor of moving up to I-A (FBS) but not at the expense of cutting non-rev sports. Track was our perennially best winning sport. Non rev producing though. Soccer was king back in asu66' day. Competed on a national stage with Vaughn Christian and Hank Steinbrecher (sp) (who coached asu66).. Baseball beat some of the big boys from time to time. Cremins took us to the NCAA Basketball tourney after having sucked for years and kinda of newly out of NAIA. Baseball, even in NAIA days picked off some of the big boys...with no athletic scholarships.
Point is, we can do this again. But we don't show many signs of it. Football is booming, but the other sports, not so much. Our football facilities are top notch. But we want bigger and better. Not a bad thing but maybe too zealous. maybe.

Please don't get this thread nuked too. Your antics are seriously getting old. Please get whatever professional help will assist your life. Maybe your posts can just be deleted or something. No one wants to hear your off-the-wall rants that just get perfectly good threads nuked.

1. Did you read the whole what you call a rant?
2. Let's go together to get help, because you out grouch me.
3. And if the mods want to delete my posts. I have no prob with that.
4. I see nothing wrong with my long post. It just tells where I am coming from in wanting a balanced athletic and academic program. We have proven ourselves in football both in performance and facilities. Maybe I'm the only one feeling that way. if so so be it.

[appgrad95&97]

Does anyone have a guess what a full redo of the East side with premium seats would cost? Twice what the NEZ cost?

[mike87]

What did the west tower take - 2 seasons? 25 seems like a long shot, but 26 should be pretty reasonable (barring major supply chain issues or something crazy like a global pandemic)

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

Widening seats is kinda hitting home. You're not wrong though, I'd like to see as much upgrade in the cheap seats as in the tower. It's more fun in the cheap seats and need to take care of the people who make the stadium rock.

[APPdiesel]

Lol stats don’t lie and we’re all getting bigger as a society. But if you sit on the west side you know full well how we increased capacity about 15 years ago…we pulled up the old seat numbers and scrunched them closer together. Dirty pool by the football administration at the time to the detriment of the fans who buy tickets.

[spacemonkey]

I would pay up for a seatback and Arms that clearly define where my seat is. But, I would like to stay with the common folks. I like being with the rowdy loud crowd vs the box seats with business and handshaking being done.

I go to a sporting event for the sport...not the social scene. Although, our group is fun to hang with before the game and after.

[appgrad95&97]

That's the thing, there's no to a "fix" to that stadium that doesn't involve tearing the East side down, moving it three or so yards closer to the field and building it back much steeper and rounded behind the endzones. That would take time and cost tons.

[JTApps1]

We need to tear down both sides and move them closer to the field to give more space for concessions, restrooms, and concourse space. Rebuild both sides to match and connect in the SEZ. I'd like a double deck style on all three sides to tie it all together.

[NewApp]

We need to tear down both sides and move them closer to the field to give more space for concessions, restrooms, and concourse space. Rebuild both sides to match and connect in the SEZ. I'd like a double deck style on all three sides to tie it all together.

That sounds like a complete redo of the whole stadium. Tickets, beer, and student athletic fees would sky rocket...or so it would seem. How much more than 130 bucks would it cost for us to see us kick ECU's butt then?

[BeauFoster]

What did the west tower take - 2 seasons? 25 seems like a long shot, but 26 should be pretty reasonable (barring major supply chain issues or something crazy like a global pandemic)

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

East side-not that I have seen, at least not the actual stands.

There are longer term (post East Tower) plans to renovate the entire west side, which is in just as bad of shape as the lower east deck. That renovation would, as it is currently scoped, mimic the look of the east side, with a true upper deck, a second level concourse under said deck, and renovations to the west tower to add bathrooms and concessions for that concourse. The east tower should have these same features included, making the game day experience much much better for everyone on that side (reducing lines).

I know people dislike the aluminum. But I maintain that with butts in seats, you don’t see any metal (except stairs). With the ramps gone, and the initial project aims to address those god-awful things, plus the outer facade of the new tower, KBS is gonna look 1000x better-full or not. It will still have a bit of a piecemeal feel to it, but there are long term plans to address that. We built what we built with the time and money available. I can fault Cobb for a whole lot, but not that. He did what he could do to provide seats for people that wanted them.

My guess is that we will eventually see seats on the hill, and may see a deck above them, if demand dictates it. That is only my guess, I haven’t seen anything about it.

[BambooRdApp]

I would pay up for a seatback and Arms that clearly define where my seat is. But, I would like to stay with the common folks. I like being with the rowdy loud crowd vs the box seats with business and handshaking being done.

I go to a sporting event for the sport...not the social scene. Although, our group is fun to hang with before the game and after.

You must have not sat in the NEZ

[hapapp]

Need to sell a lot more beer and mixed drinks, wine and cheese to the N Endzone crowd first before we can afford it.

Has to be fully funded before it will be built.

We were once (a few months ago) told told it was. LOL

It was and still is.

When's construction going to start?

Today DG said that the track fieldhouse, the outdoor tennis courts, the indoor tennis facility, and the softball field must be finished before we begin construction on the new indoor practice facility and the east side addition. He made it seem that it would at least be a couple of years before we start work on the football side of things.

[Tru2ASU]

Has to be fully funded before it will be built.

We were once (a few months ago) told told it was. LOL

It was and still is.

When's construction going to start?

Today DG said that the track fieldhouse, the outdoor tennis courts, the indoor tennis facility, and the softball field must be finished before we begin construction on the new indoor practice facility and the east side addition. He made it seem that it would at least be a couple of years before we start work on the football side of things.

You are looking at more of a 2025 start date, than finish. Take stuff with a grain of salt what is said at fundraisers and these on the road tours.

[JTApps1]

What did the west tower take - 2 seasons? 25 seems like a long shot, but 26 should be pretty reasonable (barring major supply chain issues or something crazy like a global pandemic)

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

East side-not that I have seen, at least not the actual stands.

There are longer term (post East Tower) plans to renovate the entire west side, which is in just as bad of shape as the lower east deck. That renovation would, as it is currently scoped, mimic the look of the east side, with a true upper deck, a second level concourse under said deck, and renovations to the west tower to add bathrooms and concessions for that concourse. The east tower should have these same features included, making the game day experience much much better for everyone on that side (reducing lines).

I know people dislike the aluminum. But I maintain that with butts in seats, you don’t see any metal (except stairs). With the ramps gone, and the initial project aims to address those god-awful things, plus the outer facade of the new tower, KBS is gonna look 1000x better-full or not. It will still have a bit of a piecemeal feel to it, but there are long term plans to address that. We built what we built with the time and money available. I can fault Cobb for a whole lot, but not that. He did what he could do to provide seats for people that wanted them.

My guess is that we will eventually see seats on the hill, and may see a deck above them, if demand dictates it. That is only my guess, I haven’t seen anything about it.

I don't mind aluminum either IF it is done right. Something as simple as using painted seat backs or individual seats would make it look a ton better. We also need to get rid of the chain link fencing and replace with a nicer barrier.

[AppSt94]

What did the west tower take - 2 seasons? 25 seems like a long shot, but 26 should be pretty reasonable (barring major supply chain issues or something crazy like a global pandemic)

Does the east tower plan include any updates to east side seating or are they going to tack a multi million dollar state of the art structure onto a Lego set? Lower section is crumbling, upper section is cheap high school bleachers.

It would be a perfect time to install individual chair backs (at least between the 30s). Idk if the State of NC code is changing similarly, but UF is having to widen seats and widen aisles to meet code. Between that and other voluntary changes the Swamp is set to reduce capacity from 88k to 75k.

Widening the seats would be nice. It would cut down on capacity as you alluded too and would force some people out of sections and into lower donation sections. Chairbacks between the 30s would be nice. I wonder what that cost would be for those patrons because you know they will add to the price tag to offset the lost revenue with a lower capacity.

What would you like to see them do with the bleachers on the top level? I’m not sure what they could do in place of the aluminum bleachers. I’m sure the new brick facade will make a difference from the outside at least.