App St football = POOP

[bigdaddyg]

I wish I could go back about 4-5 months ago and dig out my post which asked what would happen if we went 8-4 (or worse) this year. Some of the rational and reasonable people here said that it would most likely be a meltdown. They were right. How many programs actually stay at 10 wins a year other than maybe Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia? Forget the level or national superiority. Hard to do. Even the traditionally top dogs dip a little every now and then.

[appst89]

I wish I could go back about 4-5 months ago and dig out my post which asked what would happen if we went 8-4 (or worse) this year. Some of the rational and reasonable people here said that it would most likely be a meltdown. They were right. How many programs actually stay at 10 wins a year other than maybe Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia? Forget the level or national superiority. Hard to do. Even the traditionally top dogs dip a little every now and then.

I think context is important when evaluating that. 8-4 with solid play and signs of improvement would not have generated anywhere near the meltdown that is happening now. We haven’t seen solid play, we haven’t seen solid coaching decisions and we’ve seen regression in some areas.

The meltdown has much more to do with the three year downward trend we are on than it does with finishing 8-4, although I think 8-4 would be an absolute miracle at this point.

[AppState89]

This is one stupid A$$ post!!! This must be the first football game you have ever watched. Chase is one of the best QBs ever to play at App!!!! Not sure you know what you are talking about.

[GSUwasGump’sFallbackSchool]

I wish I could go back about 4-5 months ago and dig out my post which asked what would happen if we went 8-4 (or worse) this year. Some of the rational and reasonable people here said that it would most likely be a meltdown. They were right. How many programs actually stay at 10 wins a year other than maybe Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia? Forget the level or national superiority. Hard to do. Even the traditionally top dogs dip a little every now and then.

I think context is important when evaluating that. 8-4 with solid play and signs of improvement would not have generated anywhere near the meltdown that is happening now. We haven’t seen solid play, we haven’t seen solid coaching decisions and we’ve seen regression in some areas.

The meltdown has much more to do with the three year downward trend we are on than it does with finishing 8-4, although I think 8-4 would be an absolute miracle at this point.

Right, if 8-4 was losing the 2 P5s and then 2 to tougher conference opponents then the meltdown wouldn’t be near the same as it is now. Losing after being up 28-3, getting blown out by Texas State, and coaching constantly costing us in these games. It’s not like we lack talent even with all that we lost

[MrCraig]

I wish I could go back about 4-5 months ago and dig out my post which asked what would happen if we went 8-4 (or worse) this year. Some of the rational and reasonable people here said that it would most likely be a meltdown. They were right. How many programs actually stay at 10 wins a year other than maybe Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia? Forget the level or national superiority. Hard to do. Even the traditionally top dogs dip a little every now and then.

I think context is important when evaluating that. 8-4 with solid play and signs of improvement would not have generated anywhere near the meltdown that is happening now. We haven’t seen solid play, we haven’t seen solid coaching decisions and we’ve seen regression in some areas.

The meltdown has much more to do with the three year downward trend we are on than it does with finishing 8-4, although I think 8-4 would be an absolute miracle at this point.

8-4 with losses to UNC, Texas A&M, Coastal, and Marshall is a lot different than 8-4 with losses to JMU and Texas State. 4 losses to clearly better teams doesn’t sting nearly as much as 4 losses to teams App could’ve EASILY beaten with just a few different, basic decisions.

[Mjohn1988]

I am rewatching the game onESPN and I have to say the defense seemed to be in good position and just missed a lot of tackles. I feel better about the defensive coaching staff after rewatching. We are definitely slow in the defensive backfield but the defense had lots of chances to get off the field if they wrapped up on some of those 3rd and longs. Mccall made some great plays as well. We got beat. They played a good game and we did not execute. I don't know the answer but we are not way off.

Lots of mistakes and still had a chance to win near the end on the road.

I think the tackling issue could simply be a lack of ability. I’m not sure we have the athletes. Or our strength and conditioning program isn’t getting it done. Same thing on the O line, we can’t get any push. And on the D line we don’t have anybody who can simply overpower an opponent. You can’t just bull rush a guy ever play but you should be able to get 2 or 3 a game. I’ve said it in other seasons and several times this season, we don’t look physical enough to win. I think we need to take a hard look at our strength and conditioning program and simply get bigger, faster, stronger. We owe this to the guys we recruit. They need to realize this isn’t high school ball. No matter what kind of an athlete you are coming into the program you will need to get bigger, stronger and faster to compete in the new Sunbelt.

[bigdaddyg]

I am rewatching the game onESPN and I have to say the defense seemed to be in good position and just missed a lot of tackles. I feel better about the defensive coaching staff after rewatching. We are definitely slow in the defensive backfield but the defense had lots of chances to get off the field if they wrapped up on some of those 3rd and longs. Mccall made some great plays as well. We got beat. They played a good game and we did not execute. I don't know the answer but we are not way off.

Lots of mistakes and still had a chance to win near the end on the road.

I think the tackling issue could simply be a lack of ability. I’m not sure we have the athletes. Or our strength and conditioning program isn’t getting it done. Same thing on the O line, we can’t get any push. And on the D line we don’t have anybody who can simply overpower an opponent. You can’t just bull rush a guy ever play but you should be able to get 2 or 3 a game. I’ve said it in other seasons and several times this season, we don’t look physical enough to win. I think we need to take a hard look at our strength and conditioning program and simply get bigger, faster, stronger. We owe this to the guys we recruit. They need to realize this isn’t high school ball. No matter what kind of an athlete you are coming into the program you will need to get bigger, stronger and faster to compete in the new Sunbelt.

I believe a lot of what you say is very valid. I had looked at our roster before the season started and had even inquired about the size of our expected starters and main backups on defense. From my perspective the defensive linemen are undersized. Over the years I've felt that the average G5 team offensive linemen are either smaller or are fat and slower. We have had those 260lb faster d linemen who could get around those guys. Now the better teams have improved lines and have brought in older players through the portal. It's a combination of a better conference that has better coaches and improved rosters. We aren't playing Idaho, and crappy UL Monroe and crappy Texas State and crappy Georgia State. The bar has been raised and our 205lb linebackers and 240lb defensive ends coupled with slower d backs ain't gonna get it. Tackling in general has dropped off. How many times do you see a guy simply trying to push a ball carrier to the ground instead of wrapping him up? Or he throws a shoulder into the guy and misses? Instead of wrapping up the ball carrier gets extra yards before going out of bounds or to the ground- those extra yards add up.

[teller]

This is one stupid A$$ post!!! This must be the first football game you have ever watched. Chase is one of the best QBs ever to play at App!!!! Not sure you know what you are talking about.

Well, Mr. Robert Martin, if you were born in ‘89 as your name suggests, you’re too young to know about Armanti and also naive to know that Chase is not one of the best. College football and all football, at elite levels, requires something called athletes. Chase can throw but is slow as molasses, which results in inabilities to extend plays, stretch the pocket, and escape pressure. Sure his turnovers are a result of bad line play, but if he was a true athlete/baller, and not so damn chunky and slow he probably wouldn’t have been forced into either turnover. But you all just keep on hating on me calling out the problems while our program goes down the . I’m just an idiot who doesn’t know sh*t and never watched or played football. While you’re hating, you should probably go find a db/secondary coach that knows wtf they’re doing……

[UncleClark174]

Tommy Boy, quit playing with your dingy

Haha - This thread needed this. Relax folks.

[kornegaylw]

Wtf is this thread.


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[bigdaddyg]

Hmmm

Currently Chase is tied for 3rd nationally with 24 passing TD's. He is 17th in passer rating. He has 5 PICs in 267 throws.

[tm37766]

This is one stupid A$$ post!!! This must be the first football game you have ever watched. Chase is one of the best QBs ever to play at App!!!! Not sure you know what you are talking about.

Well, Mr. Robert Martin, if you were born in ‘89 as your name suggests, you’re too young to know about Armanti and also naive to know that Chase is not one of the best. College football and all football, at elite levels, requires something called athletes. Chase can throw but is slow as molasses, which results in inabilities to extend plays, stretch the pocket, and escape pressure. Sure his turnovers are a result of bad line play, but if he was a true athlete/baller, and not so damn chunky and slow he probably wouldn’t have been forced into either turnover. But you all just keep on hating on me calling out the problems while our program goes down the . I’m just an idiot who doesn’t know sh*t and never watched or played football. While you’re hating, you should probably go find a db/secondary coach that knows wtf they’re doing……

Maybe Mr. Martin graduated from App in 1989. Your assumption is silly. Furthermore, how would he be too young even if born in 1989 to know about Armanti? You don’t think teenagers in 2007 knew about AE?

With all due respect, your posts are kind of douchy. Just an opinion though, and most opinions stink of course.

[kornegaylw]

I am rewatching the game onESPN and I have to say the defense seemed to be in good position and just missed a lot of tackles. I feel better about the defensive coaching staff after rewatching. We are definitely slow in the defensive backfield but the defense had lots of chances to get off the field if they wrapped up on some of those 3rd and longs. Mccall made some great plays as well. We got beat. They played a good game and we did not execute. I don't know the answer but we are not way off.

Lots of mistakes and still had a chance to win near the end on the road.

THANK YOU!!

I've been saying this all year!

Go watch the way Ross, Parker, Bird, Cobb, and McLeod communicate pre-snap now as compared to the beginning of the year. They are getting it. Most of those guys will be back next year plus we have Arnolt, Sullivan and Haihler who are beasts amd getting significant playing time.

Those guys are see their arm tackles on film every coaching session until they body their man up. They will be better. Rome wasn't built in a day

[AppinVA]

Tommy Boy, quit playing with your dingy

Haha - This thread needed this. Relax folks.

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[WVAPPeer]

Most of us understand that there are some who would absolutely nutjobs with 4 losses, regardless of who the 4 losses were ---

Hey Teller - have you ever seen Tom Brady play QB? - Peyton Manning perhaps? - Johnny U? Joe Montana? - I'll stop there because you must likely will have some negative response ---

[App_in_Maiden]

This is one stupid A$$ post!!! This must be the first football game you have ever watched. Chase is one of the best QBs ever to play at App!!!! Not sure you know what you are talking about.

Well, Mr. Robert Martin, if you were born in ‘89 as your name suggests, you’re too young to know about Armanti and also naive to know that Chase is not one of the best.

What a dumb post. I was born in 88 and know who Armanti is….want to know why? Because I was 18 and started at App in 06 which, shocker, is when Armanti started. Even though what you have been saying has been absolute crap, this is the cherry on top.

[TheAppalachianState]

This is one stupid A$$ post!!! This must be the first football game you have ever watched. Chase is one of the best QBs ever to play at App!!!! Not sure you know what you are talking about.

Well, Mr. Robert Martin, if you were born in ‘89 as your name suggests, you’re too young to know about Armanti and also naive to know that Chase is not one of the best.

What a dumb post. I was born in 88 and know who Armanti is….want to know why? Because I was 18 and started at App in 06 which, shocker, is when Armanti started. Even though what you have been saying has been absolute crap, this is the cherry on top.

Armanti could also run. Chase I think is the best deep passer I’ve ever seen at App. OL needs work, and so do our strats

[WASU 93]

I am rewatching the game onESPN and I have to say the defense seemed to be in good position and just missed a lot of tackles. I feel better about the defensive coaching staff after rewatching. We are definitely slow in the defensive backfield but the defense had lots of chances to get off the field if they wrapped up on some of those 3rd and longs. Mccall made some great plays as well. We got beat. They played a good game and we did not execute. I don't know the answer but we are not way off.

Lots of mistakes and still had a chance to win near the end on the road.

THANK YOU!!

I've been saying this all year!

Go watch the way Ross, Parker, Bird, Cobb, and McLeod communicate pre-snap now as compared to the beginning of the year. They are getting it. Most of those guys will be back next year plus we have Arnolt, Sullivan and Haihler who are beasts amd getting significant playing time.

Those guys are see their arm tackles on film every coaching session until they body their man up. They will be better. Rome wasn't built in a day

i watched Arnolt a lot the other night at the game. The reason I started watching him was his closing speed to a play on the sideline (it reminded me of what we had in Demarco Jackson last year). He was in for a lot of second half snaps and held his own.

I also watched Cobb miss a couple of tackles in a row. Then, he came off the field dangling his arm and went to the locker room to get it iced. He was giving it his all, but just couldn't wrap up due to his injury.

That's why I won't stop going to games. These guys want to win. If we can enjoy the success, I'm going to support our guys regardless of the win/loss.

[Pikapp79]

We’ve become a mediocre team. Hopefully not a mediocre program. Next year will tell the story.

[Saint3333]

Hmmm

Currently Chase is tied for 3rd nationally with 24 passing TD's. He is 17th in passer rating. He has 5 PICs in 267 throws.

Which makes our team results very disappointing.