App St football = POOP

[GreatAppSt]

Chase is going to make a mucho lotta bank on NFL rosters because he stinks so badly.

[teller]

This is a Georgia Southern-level post.

To each their own. I posted my opinion, you posted yours. Guess you're content with being mediocre.

[hapapp]

I guess you're content and ok with mediocrity Beau! To each his own. I thought our football team was known for being dogs, guess we're just wanna-bes that are content with being "okay" at best. Just a bunch of pups.....

No one's satisfied with where things are at the moment, but to suggest Burger would have us at 8-1 right now is ludicrous. I look forward to seeing what he can be, but there's no guarantee he's even the starter next year. There are issues with this team but QB is not one of them.

[AppOrange]

After years of dynasty like play, we are officially poop. How does that make you feel? We have more talent for offensive skill position players, but our defense is an absolute embarrassment. Offensive skill positions are the best EVER minus QB that is, Chase is a chunky, slow QB. If Burger was starting, we may have only lost one so far. How does that make you feel, App Nation? As others have said since our embarrassing bowl loss, our defense, especially the secondary, has been absolutely EXPOSED. 'Til we recruit some dogs for DBs and safeties, we will never be more than mediocre at best. We'll be lucky to see a bowl game this year. To the defensive secondary and coaches/players and QB coaches/players, I hope you're proud of yourself for drinking the koolaid and getting big-heads.

While I agree with a little of your post, I do not agree with your comments about Chase, I feel we are very lucky to have him. He misses some throws (all qb's do, but makes some amazing ones as well. His 2 TO's last night were tough, but getting crushed while passing and a messed up snap is hardly solely if any on him. A few other thoughts on the overall program:

For several weeks I have felt one our main issues was not respecting the team across from us, it was the only way I could justify the UNC/A&M game and the Tex st and first half against GSU and RM debacle. And while I do think every team struggles with that to a certain degree, that is not necessarily the only thing. Maybe we are so much faster than the huge P5 teams that our speed neutralizes their size. When we play SB schools, who are often as fast, maybe a tad slower (but definitely bigger), we don't have an advantage and at times a disadvantage. Add the target as the SB flag barer and everyone's "black-out" game and we are always going to be in a dog fight. This brings me to my point. Someone many years ago had the balls to make a drastic change to how we recruit and change our entire offensive scheme. We had built the program to a place where we could do that, and after a few bumps, it took us to the next level with Natty's and the Mich win. I am tired of hearing about undersized Appalachian guys. Have we not built the brand where we can still find guys who will work hard and be good team mates but also have a little more physical gifts. I'm not saying we compete against the Clemson's of the world, but we have the history, brand, fan support that is far superior to any others in our conference and most of the G5. Diamonds in the rough are fine, but we need some quality size and speed with our 2nd and 3rd teams as well.

As for the coaching, I am not one to call for heads. Not going to do it. I will go only as far to say (and did on this board) that the hire was a little questionable to me in the fact that we were rolling, getting ranked, and we turned it over to someone with no HC experience. I do very much question a lot of the calls lately (going for it on 4th down in bad spots, not passing more when our over-rated O line is stagnant, 2 point conversion's, etc.) As for all the DJ chatter, I will not defend or support as there is too much I don't know, but what I am seeing are defenders in position and not making plays. Is that a result of poor recruiting, not practicing fundamentals enough in practice, I don't know, but I saw so many arm tackles missed for losses or minimal gains last night it makes me sick. One dude had to have had at least 6, all he could do is shake his head after each play. this has been a problem all year for this team and not talked about enough. Scheme good, players there, execution bad.

We are not used to years where our brand is not moving forward. This year, our brand trajectory was going through the roof, UNC/TAMU game, College Gameday/Hail Mary definitely 2 steps forward. Now, we have taken 1 step backwards with no conference title game appearance and a bad record. If we don't make a bowl game, get some extra weeks of practice, have millions watching us (either directly on TV or an through their sports book) that negates the gains from earlier and is very unfortunate.

Finally, yes I use "we" when referring to the team. APP 's passionate fan base is as much a part of the culture and program as any other facet. I don't get up at 5:30 to work out or run the knob, but my wallet, watch and voice give their all and is just as important.

Please have the balls to evaluate and adapt . . .

[appchicago]

This is a Georgia Southern-level post.

To each their own. I posted my opinion, you posted yours. Guess you're content with being mediocre.

Jog on, buddy. Your post is childish, combative, petty, and in some spots just flat wrong.

[Yosef84]

I guess you're content and ok with mediocrity Beau! To each his own. I thought our football team was known for being dogs, guess we're just wanna-bes that are content with being "okay" at best. Just a bunch of pups.....

I'm really tired of these comments, claiming some sort of superiority due to a reactionary attitude and sweeping generalizations. It's called building a straw argument and that's about what it is worth....straw. A less than championship season does not equal "poop." NO PROGRAM wins the championship EVERY year. Accepting this season without insulting our athletes and staff is not the same as "accepting mediocrity." That doesn't seem to be hard to grasp.

I seriously doubt that anyone on the board is "OK" with how this season has gone. If a few losses is enough to make you turn and attack your own team, maybe you should jump on some other bandwagon. There is absolutely zero constructive about your posts and there is no attempt to engage in discussion, so I assume you're just whining.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Tommy Boy, quit playing with your dingy

[AppRT]

We play to the level of our competition. I’m not pinning it 100% on coaching but this has become a bigger issue in the last 2 or 3 years.

[BambooRdApp]

Know a poster has little to no creditability when they go Stuart Smalley on a reply.."know more about football than you will ever kniw"

Stuart Smalley from SNL
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

[AppStFan1]

I’m amazed at the lack of objectivity shown by our fanbase.

Chase can make throws no QB at App has ever made and probably throws the prettiest deep ball as well.

Sure he’s not a runner, but to question his passing skill is a sign you don’t know much about football and looking for a scapegoat so you can stomach a loss. That’s on you not Chase, be better.

Know more about the game than you'd ever know. Also know that in a league as competitive (level parity) as the SBC this season, you're not going to win as a 1 dimensional QB. (unless your defense holds teams to a minimum, i.e. Troy) What's not objective with knowing the conference and what it takes to win?

DEFENSE = is #1 problem. 1 dimensional QB = 2nd prob. Predictable play calling = #3

I agree that a dual threat in this league is tougher to face. It does not take away Chase's arm talent. He can make some big throws for sure. We might have the ideal fit in Burger. He has shown he can run it well and he looks good in warmups and was in the limited time he has had this year. I wonder what could have happened had we had an RPO package in for Burger and put him out there for a series or two just to see how the CCU defense would respond to something they had not seen.

[Yosef1986]

It appears to be numerous factors that have contributed to our 2022 season. Not sure if one out weighs the others. The main take away is finding balance back in the program. As someone stated - maybe in this post - we could be tested more so in the transfer portal this year and P5 grab a few key players. That is an issue as there is definitely something not adding up to the record vs talent we have.

[kornegaylw]

I’m amazed at the lack of objectivity shown by our fanbase.

Chase can make throws no QB at App has ever made and probably throws the prettiest deep ball as well.

Sure he’s not a runner, but to question his passing skill is a sign you don’t know much about football and looking for a scapegoat so you can stomach a loss. That’s on you not Chase, be better.

Know more about the game than you'd ever know. Also know that in a league as competitive (level parity) as the SBC this season, you're not going to win as a 1 dimensional QB. (unless your defense holds teams to a minimum, i.e. Troy) What's not objective with knowing the conference and what it takes to win?

DEFENSE = is #1 problem. 1 dimensional QB = 2nd prob. Predictable play calling = #3

If you know as much about the games as you say you wouldn't have started this topic.

[AppStFan1]

I guess you're content and ok with mediocrity Beau! To each his own. I thought our football team was known for being dogs, guess we're just wanna-bes that are content with being "okay" at best. Just a bunch of pups.....

I'm really tired of these comments, claiming some sort of superiority due to a reactionary attitude and sweeping generalizations. It's called building a straw argument and that's about what it is worth....straw. A less than championship season does not equal "poop." NO PROGRAM wins the championship EVERY year. Accepting this season without insulting our athletes and staff is not the same as "accepting mediocrity." That doesn't seem to be hard to grasp.

I seriously doubt that anyone on the board is "OK" with how this season has gone. If a few losses is enough to make you turn and attack your own team, maybe you should jump on some other bandwagon. There is absolutely zero constructive about your posts and there is no attempt to engage in discussion, so I assume you're just whining.

Gillin won't accept mediocrity and 3 of 4 seasons not even being in the hunt for the title would tell me we are getting to where you either make some changes or you start accepting mediocrity. I'm with you that we can't win it every year but the league is a lot better so now we have to rise up or we will get left behind.

If we lose 2 more games I think Gillin has Shawn make a lot of changes since we would miss out on a bowl game. If that happens, I think Shawn makes a lot of changes and does enter next year on hot-seat. If he wins out and wins bowl game then 9-4 won't look so bad. It will be interesting to see how we finish.

[teller]

Know a poster has little to no creditability when they go Stuart Smalley on a reply.."know more about football than you will ever kniw"

Stuart Smalley from SNL
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

What’s yo name?

[NewApp]

We’re not good, but chase is the only reason we’re even competitive lately.

How about the fumble at the 5 yesterday and the INT returned to the 2 yd line? Lost by 7 and there's 2 field goals or better yet TDs erased because our QB can't make better decisions. But yeah, sure, he's the reason we're competitive. How about the reason we're NOT competitive?

How about "Trailing 35-14 early in the fourth, Chase Brice threw a 42-yard touchdown pass to Tyler Page with 11:02 left and followed a Nick Hampton fumble recovery with a 5-yard touchdown on a quarterback keeper with 3:01 remaining."

?????

[NewApp]

I guess you're content and ok with mediocrity Beau! To each his own. I thought our football team was known for being dogs, guess we're just wanna-bes that are content with being "okay" at best. Just a bunch of pups.....

I'm really tired of these comments, claiming some sort of superiority due to a reactionary attitude and sweeping generalizations. It's called building a straw argument and that's about what it is worth....straw. A less than championship season does not equal "poop." NO PROGRAM wins the championship EVERY year. Accepting this season without insulting our athletes and staff is not the same as "accepting mediocrity." That doesn't seem to be hard to grasp.

I seriously doubt that anyone on the board is "OK" with how this season has gone. If a few losses is enough to make you turn and attack your own team, maybe you should jump on some other bandwagon. There is absolutely zero constructive about your posts and there is no attempt to engage in discussion, so I assume you're just whining.

Who says he is one of our own? He had 35 posts when he started this thread. I think he is an imposter.

[AppStFan1]

I’m amazed at the lack of objectivity shown by our fanbase.

Chase can make throws no QB at App has ever made and probably throws the prettiest deep ball as well.

Sure he’s not a runner, but to question his passing skill is a sign you don’t know much about football and looking for a scapegoat so you can stomach a loss. That’s on you not Chase, be better.

Know more about the game than you'd ever know. Also know that in a league as competitive (level parity) as the SBC this season, you're not going to win as a 1 dimensional QB. (unless your defense holds teams to a minimum, i.e. Troy) What's not objective with knowing the conference and what it takes to win?

DEFENSE = is #1 problem. 1 dimensional QB = 2nd prob. Predictable play calling = #3

If you know as much about the games as you say you wouldn't have started this topic.

Agreed. Nobody knows it all about football and it is evolving so there are things to be learned over next 10 years that could not have been known 30 years ago, etc. There are good and bad coaches though. Just because someone gets paid does not mean they are the best. I mean Chris Moore was a coach at App for a long time because of his father and since Jerry retired he has not sniffed a football field at college level.

To me, a good coach gets the most out of his talent and comes up with great game plans to put players in he best situation. The difference between a good and great head coach is staff hirings. People often over look that. Making the right hires is as important as being good with overall direction by the head coach or his leadership. If you make bad hires it can set you back. Just look at Beamer with SC. If he keeps Satterfield around past this year I bet he is out of a job there by end of 2024.

[Seattleapp]

I am certain that this post and thread will be used against us in our recruiting battles.It probably already is....

Have a little more fight and this type post will never see the light of day. idk though

Yeah because you have no control over the drivel you spout. I would love to see you throw a football. Just throw it.

[Yosef84]

Chase is the best qb we have had since AE and has the best arm talent of any qb I have seen in the black and gold.

Lamb? Thomas? These guys won conference championships and were better all around.

Very simplistic analysis there. We aren't playing in a vacuum and Chase has competed in a much stronger SunBelt than either Lamb or Thomas. I love those guys and won't cast any stones.

[Longrifle28]

We’re not good, but chase is the only reason we’re even competitive lately.

How about the fumble at the 5 yesterday and the INT returned to the 2 yd line? Lost by 7 and there's 2 field goals or better yet TDs erased because our QB can't make better decisions. But yeah, sure, he's the reason we're competitive. How about the reason we're NOT competitive?

How about "Trailing 35-14 early in the fourth, Chase Brice threw a 42-yard touchdown pass to Tyler Page with 11:02 left and followed a Nick Hampton fumble recovery with a 5-yard touchdown on a quarterback keeper with 3:01 remaining."

?????

Dammit NA. For once we are in agreement. The world must be spinning backwards.