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[Saint3333]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

*pushes up glasses* Actually! According to ESPN analytics, with less than 4 yards to go, and less than 55 yards to the opponent's endzone, going for it would be the better decision and increase your win probability. Add into that the fact that GA State has the second worst run defense in the conference, App should have gone for it on both occasions that they had the ball on 4th and 1 on their own 46 yard line.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/330 ... mendations

And yet no one that actually holds the job does this, due to the intangibles not the least of which is momentum shifts.

Also not true. More NFL coaches are going for it on 4th down than ever before. And, many of the best coaches in the league are the ones who go for it more often.
https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats ... 2021-nfl-s

Ok you're comparing NFL and college which is vastly different. The execution risk at that level and college is night and day. Completion percentages, consistent results, etc.

Maybe Alabama should follow that, but I like the old school thought of punting and making the other team drive further.

[AppinATL]

Whole new team. Someone delete the first 5 pages of this thread.

Nah, leave it up. You need to remember where you’ve come from so you don’t go back.

The problem is, these hotheads don’t ever learn. There are some new faces but mistly its the same cast of bad actors. They’ll be hollering again the next time somebody doesn’t live up to their unrealistic expectations. Because thats what they love to do. Call out kids and coaches, pull their hair out. And when we play great and win, they disappear and the “winning” threads are deserted. SMH

[ukappfan]

The first quarter we played god awful. No one can question that. The announcers mentioned we made some changes on the oline and that is when things started to open up. They also started bringing more pressure on d and the lb and cb actually started to make tackles. It was a good turn around. Now let’s hope we can continue.

[WataugaMan]

I’m going to watch it again and love every minute.

After that, Troy and S. Alabama play tonight. From the looks of it the winner of that game will probably take the West. Believe I'll pull for S. Alabama, don't want to play Troy again if we win the East, unless if it's played at The Rock.

Should be good game. We would win the tiebreaker if Troy wins west and we win east if same number of losses. I am going to pull for Troy only for that reason as we do not play Jags head to head.

Okay, in that case I'll pull for Troy as well, makes sense. Would definitely rather play at home in the championship game vice away, even if it is Troy.

[Mjohn1988]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

*pushes up glasses* Actually! According to ESPN analytics, with less than 4 yards to go, and less than 55 yards to the opponent's endzone, going for it would be the better decision and increase your win probability. Add into that the fact that GA State has the second worst run defense in the conference, App should have gone for it on both occasions that they had the ball on 4th and 1 on their own 46 yard line.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/330 ... mendations

And yet no one that actually holds the job does this, due to the intangibles not the least of which is momentum shifts.

Also not true. More NFL coaches are going for it on 4th down than ever before. And, many of the best coaches in the league are the ones who go for it more often.
https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats ... 2021-nfl-s

Ok you're comparing NFL and college which is vastly different. The execution risk at that level and college is night and day. Completion percentages, consistent results, etc.

Maybe Alabama should follow that, but I like the old school thought of punting and making the other team drive further.

Analytics is a tool, it can and should help in decision making. But other variables need to come into play. Like, how are these 20 year old kids doing in this game at this time and how hard are the guys trying to stop us playing. And truth be told the data is influenced by how coaches look at and apply the variables.

[appst89]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

[AppinATL]

Use Roberts later in the year if needed don’t waste a game.

Castle should get a LOT of carries next week

Would love to see a heavy dose of chop castle roberts next weekend (assuming marshall is hurt after that big hit). we get 4 games before roberts burns a shirt so next week is his 2nd game if we use him.

Why on earth would we use one of Roberts 3 remaining freebies on a game that is totally meaningless?

[appstatealum]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

Have to agree with you here, especially when our defense has been very porous.

[311neers]

Use Roberts later in the year if needed don’t waste a game.

Castle should get a LOT of carries next week

Would love to see a heavy dose of chop castle roberts next weekend (assuming marshall is hurt after that big hit). we get 4 games before roberts burns a shirt so next week is his 2nd game if we use him.

Why on earth would we use one of Roberts 3 remaining freebies on a game that is totally meaningless?

We used him against Citadel so there is a precedent of playing him in a huge blowout, unless you thought that was a dumb decision as well. We all assume that's what next week is, so it makes sense they'll do the same thing like Citadel. If we need Roberts at any point this year, we are in a tough situation lol. Let the dude play his 4 games to keep him happy and on campus. If we need him later on in the season and he's used his 4 games, just burn his redshirt, you get like 4-6 years nowadays anyway lol.

[AppinVA]

We are fans. It's hard to pin something on fans who are upset or overly euphoric in the moment. Yeah, I felt at times last night like we were on the verge of losing it all. I expressed myself how I thought was accordingly several times from my couch. I said things I shouldn't and wouldn't say, except in the heat of the moment. Then I applauded what I perceive to be a return to Appalachian Football. It is amazing how confidence in one's abilities results in execution. I saw a team that had lost its groove get it back. It was glorious, and it's now up to them to keep it.

[appstatealum]

I'm indifferent for the most part, but regardless of the maturity level of "young men", I don't call 20 year olds "kids" unless they deserve the designation (and I can call any aged person a kid by that definition). I left my parents house a few months after my 18th birthday and never came back outside of a few nights here and there. I never accepted another penny from them either unless it was a Christmas gift or something. I was no longer a "kid".

[bigdaddyg]

Use Roberts later in the year if needed don’t waste a game.

Castle should get a LOT of carries next week

Would love to see a heavy dose of chop castle roberts next weekend (assuming marshall is hurt after that big hit). we get 4 games before roberts burns a shirt so next week is his 2nd game if we use him.

Why on earth would we use one of Roberts 3 remaining freebies on a game that is totally meaningless?

Agree. Zero reason to play him in a meaningless game just to get 10 carries and whatever number of yards? Heaven forbid we get really busted up at the position but he is really insurance at this point. Hope that Marshall is not seriously hurt. No reason for him to play if not 100%. It can be the Anderson Castle show for the second half.

[NewApp]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

And an I am smarter than the coaches award.

[appst89]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

And an I am smarter than the coaches award.

I see New App has nominated himself as the first candidate for the award.

[appstatealum]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

And an I am smarter than the coaches award.

I see New App has nominated himself as the first candidate for the award.

Some comments just aren't worth acknowledging

[311neers]

GREAT way to start homecoming Saturday. Get ya a little tailgate with the Diamond Neers fall ball v the terriers. Go apps!

[BeauFoster]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

I’m sure that wouldn’t end up iN A dumpster fire…

[AppOrange]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

Yeah, I cringed as I sat there and heard all the boos (mostly on the west side), not going for it, I stood up and clapped. It’s not just the field position you give up if you don’t get it, it’s a lot of momentum. This game was all about momentum, as most are, but tonight was sooo obvious.

[Black Saturday]

I think we should start giving a monthly "I am a better fan than you" award.

There is already a club around like that.

[App_in_Maiden]

The first three drives were 4th and 1 at the 40, 4th and 4 at the 41, and 4th and 4 at the 42 (all on our side) if I recall correctly.

That's not scared football, that is fundamentally sound decision making. What has happened to our fanbase and the knowledge of basic football principles.

Yeah, I cringed as I sat there and heard all the boos (mostly on the west side), not going for it, I stood up and clapped. It’s not just the field position you give up if you don’t get it, it’s a lot of momentum. This game was all about momentum, as most are, but tonight was sooo obvious.

I started laughing when I heard the boos on TV. Last week going for it like we did crushed us. I was happy to see smart football being played and I do believe that helped us. Imagine going for it and not converting. GA state could potentially have gone up a lot more and I think a different outcome would have happened.