Cardwell gone

[Hudson2002]

G5 to P5 with probably 3 times the salary. Not a hard one to figure out.

[t4pizza]

My senses tell me the same. This is basically a lateral position move except for it being to a P5. Something else afoot.

The very fact that it is a P5 program means it is NOT a lateral position move. That would be like saying a FCS OC who gets a G5 OC offer is just a lateral move, it isn't. Bigger school, bigger conference, bigger presence on a national stage, more money and prestige. This is an upgrade for Cardwell in every aspect. We will always lose coaches to P5 programs, regardless if they are App guys or not.

[yikas1]

Love ya Satt.

[appstate77]

My senses tell me the same. This is basically a lateral position move except for it being to a P5. Something else afoot.

The very fact that it is a P5 program means it is NOT a lateral position move. That would be like saying a FCS OC who gets a G5 OC offer is just a lateral move, it isn't. Bigger school, bigger conference, bigger presence on a national stage, more money and prestige. This is an upgrade for Cardwell in every aspect. We will always lose coaches to P5 programs, regardless if they are App guys or not.

We shall have to agree to disagree.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

My senses tell me the same. This is basically a lateral position move except for it being to a P5. Something else afoot.

The very fact that it is a P5 program means it is NOT a lateral position move. That would be like saying a FCS OC who gets a G5 OC offer is just a lateral move, it isn't. Bigger school, bigger conference, bigger presence on a national stage, more money and prestige. This is an upgrade for Cardwell in every aspect. We will always lose coaches to P5 programs, regardless if they are App guys or not.

We shall have to agree to disagree.

It’s not a lateral move, but there could be more to it, as well.

[TractorApp]

Announcement did not say he was going to UL as OL coach did it? Could be as a TE/Tackles coach or possibly something else. Regardless, good luck to Nick. He gave his all for App State.

[AppStateNews]

He's going as TE coach

[BallantyneApp]

My senses tell me the same. This is basically a lateral position move except for it being to a P5. Something else afoot.

The very fact that it is a P5 program means it is NOT a lateral position move. That would be like saying a FCS OC who gets a G5 OC offer is just a lateral move, it isn't. Bigger school, bigger conference, bigger presence on a national stage, more money and prestige. This is an upgrade for Cardwell in every aspect. We will always lose coaches to P5 programs, regardless if they are App guys or not.

We shall have to agree to disagree.

it might be a lateral move in terms of responsibility and the amount of work he does, but its definitely not a lateral move in pay.

I'll take double the pay for the same amount of work/responsibility any day of the week.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

He's going as TE coach

Wow, imagine that. I figured he’d be their offensive line coach.

[AtlAppMan]

Any one of us 5 or 10 years into our careers would have been hard pressed to turn down a career move doubling your salary, upgrading your profile and going to work for someone you previously worked for and probably liked(ie Satt). My wife would have already had my bags packed.

Are you crazy? Dude is moving up the career ladder. Looks like a great move if you are in his shoes.

[AppSt94]

He's going as TE coach

Wow, imagine that. I figured he’d be their offensive line coach.

They already have a good one.

[BeauFoster]

Any one of us 5 or 10 years into our careers would have been hard pressed to turn down a career move doubling your salary, upgrading your profile and going to work for someone you previously worked for and probably liked(ie Satt). My wife would have already had my bags packed.

Are you crazy? Dude is moving up the career ladder. Looks like a great move if you are in his shoes.

Over the past 14 months I’ve done pretty much exactly this (haven’t doubled my salary, but have gotten a really good raise) - I left one company for a 20% raise and then 10 months later my old company wanted me back and gave me 15% on top of that. NC has a couple kids (I believe he just had another one, right?) and setting his family up and taking care of them is what a man does. No company or school will have unending loyalty to me as an employee, so I’m gonna get mine while I can. I’m glad Cardwell is in a position where he can do the same.

[AppTillIDie]

He probably tired of reading that some of you always questioned his coaching ability and how we needed a "real OL coach" - No, I know that is not the reason but personally I got tired of reading it even though our OL group was in the final 15 for the best OL in college for what, last 3 years???

PREACH!!!!

[Rekdiver]

He probably tired of reading that some of you always questioned his coaching ability and how we needed a "real OL coach" - No, I know that is not the reason but personally I got tired of reading it even though our OL group was in the final 15 for the best OL in college for what, last 3 years???

PREACH!!!!

I would suggest that much of the success of our OLINE came from previous coaches. Not saying Nick didnt do a decent job but i do think it's valid to question a 1st year oline coach who had only coached tight ends with only a couple years under his belt. I know he put everything into it, no doubt but not unfair to raise the issue.

[AppSt94]

He probably tired of reading that some of you always questioned his coaching ability and how we needed a "real OL coach" - No, I know that is not the reason but personally I got tired of reading it even though our OL group was in the final 15 for the best OL in college for what, last 3 years???

PREACH!!!!

I would suggest that much of the success of our OLINE came from previous coaches. Not saying Nick didnt do a decent job but i do think it's valid to question a 1st year oline coach who had only coached tight ends with only a couple years under his belt. I know he put everything into it, no doubt but not unfair to raise the issue.

Fair point. But couldn’t one apply that same logic and criticism to those that wanted Ponce, no OC experience and wanting Lamb (one year) to replace Ponce?

[Rekdiver]

He probably tired of reading that some of you always questioned his coaching ability and how we needed a "real OL coach" - No, I know that is not the reason but personally I got tired of reading it even though our OL group was in the final 15 for the best OL in college for what, last 3 years???

PREACH!!!!

I would suggest that much of the success of our OLINE came from previous coaches. Not saying Nick didnt do a decent job but i do think it's valid to question a 1st year oline coach who had only coached tight ends with only a couple years under his belt. I know he put everything into it, no doubt but not unfair to raise the issue.

Fair point. But couldn’t one apply that same logic and criticism to those that wanted Ponce, no OC experience and wanting Lamb (one year) to replace Ponce?

Absolutely

[Rekdiver]

He probably tired of reading that some of you always questioned his coaching ability and how we needed a "real OL coach" - No, I know that is not the reason but personally I got tired of reading it even though our OL group was in the final 15 for the best OL in college for what, last 3 years???

PREACH!!!!

I would suggest that much of the success of our OLINE came from previous coaches. Not saying Nick didnt do a decent job but i do think it's valid to question a 1st year oline coach who had only coached tight ends with only a couple years under his belt. I know he put everything into it, no doubt but not unfair to raise the issue.

Fair point. But couldn’t one apply that same logic and criticism to those that wanted Ponce, no OC experience and wanting Lamb (one year) to replace Ponce?

Absolutely but Ponce has years of experience with offenses while this is taylors first gig.

[AppSt94]

PREACH!!!!

I would suggest that much of the success of our OLINE came from previous coaches. Not saying Nick didnt do a decent job but i do think it's valid to question a 1st year oline coach who had only coached tight ends with only a couple years under his belt. I know he put everything into it, no doubt but not unfair to raise the issue.

Fair point. But couldn’t one apply that same logic and criticism to those that wanted Ponce, no OC experience and wanting Lamb (one year) to replace Ponce?

Absolutely but Ponce has years of experience with offenses while this is taylors first gig.

True. But this was Ponce’s first year as the actual play caller.

[mike87]

Any one of us 5 or 10 years into our careers would have been hard pressed to turn down a career move doubling your salary, upgrading your profile and going to work for someone you previously worked for and probably liked(ie Satt). My wife would have already had my bags packed.

Are you crazy? Dude is moving up the career ladder. Looks like a great move if you are in his shoes.

Over the past 14 months I’ve done pretty much exactly this (haven’t doubled my salary, but have gotten a really good raise) - I left one company for a 20% raise and then 10 months later my old company wanted me back and gave me 15% on top of that. NC has a couple kids (I believe he just had another one, right?) and setting his family up and taking care of them is what a man does. No company or school will have unending loyalty to me as an employee, so I’m gonna get mine while I can. I’m glad Cardwell is in a position where he can do the same.

Hmmm. Beaufoster field at Kid Brewer Stadium. Has a nice ring to it

[BambooRdApp]

I would go with Kidd Brewer Stadium by Beaufoster....or just Beaufoster Field...then we can find some other booster in the 1% club to sponsor the stadium or field... whichever one Beaufoster elects not take...we got to maximize the marketing/sponsor dollars...