Ponce going to Miami

[AppSt94]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

Ughhh, to do what? Coach tight ends? They already have an OL coach.

Sucks losing guys during spring ball.

GO APPS!!

Yes. TEs.

[hapapp]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

Ughhh, to do what? Coach tight ends? They already have an OL coach.

Sucks losing guys during spring ball.

GO APPS!!

Former App Assistant Stu Holt left Louisville for Va Tech, thus opening the TE position coach.

[bcoach]

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Just a wild guess but Coach would probably know before we do.

[Stonewall]

Good for him and good for us.He is a TE coach, not an OLine coach.

[BallantyneApp]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

Ughhh, to do what? Coach tight ends? They already have an OL coach.

Sucks losing guys during spring ball.

GO APPS!!

Yes. TEs.

Former App player John Holt comes back to coach OL?

[AppSt94]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

Ughhh, to do what? Coach tight ends? They already have an OL coach.

Sucks losing guys during spring ball.

GO APPS!!

Yes. TEs.

Former App player John Holt comes back to coach OL?

He just got hired by Georgia St. I don’t think Shawn would do that to Shawn.

[AppYosef!]

One thing is VERY obvious...anyone associated with the coaching staff for App State football is a hot commodity right now. Even former players turned coaches who we may think of as possible replacements have already been scooped up by other teams. This just shows the quality of the program and the respect it has earned. Don't be fooled that it is all about the money. As coaches they strive to be the best at what they do. Part of that is proving to themselves that they can coach at the highest level. No matter how good ASU is in football...these guys are leaving for more prestigious jobs in power conferences. They might make more money to support their growing families as well. Who could blame them?

[Appstate88]

Give him a call. https://wydaily.com/sports/2022/01/11/m ... ing-staff/

[yosefederation]

Just saw we are losing Nic Cardwell also. Please stop the bleeding.

[AppStFan1]

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Just a wild guess but Coach would probably know before we do.

No doubt. I think good head coaches always have a list of names or people they would go to quick for suggestions. I have no doubt we can get someone good. It will just come down to whether Clark makes the right decision. We are an attractive place for a rising coach.

[WASU 93]

One thing is VERY obvious...anyone associated with the coaching staff for App State football is a hot commodity right now. Even former players turned coaches who we may think of as possible replacements have already been scooped up by other teams. This just shows the quality of the program and the respect it has earned. Don't be fooled that it is all about the money. As coaches they strive to be the best at what they do. Part of that is proving to themselves that they can coach at the highest level. No matter how good ASU is in football...these guys are leaving for more prestigious jobs in power conferences. They might make more money to support their growing families as well. Who could blame them?

Plus, we only give assistant coaches one year contracts. This encourages them to strike when the iron is hot.

[bcoach]

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Kevin Barbay

[Cro-Magnon App]

Staff turnover is the world we live in, in football as well as everything else. Even Saban loses coaches every year. Coach Clark, I’m sure, has long list of possible replacements as most coaches do. Looks like he got a good one out of CM. Apps roll on!

[AppStFan1]

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Kevin Barbay

This appears to be a good hire. I wasn’t sure exactly what MAC paid but it appears as though he is getting a slight bump. I would imagine that it’s also easier to move up from App than CMU so that has to influence it. I’m optimistic he can get a lot out of our talent.

[AtlAppMan]

Since we were discussing some of the past OC's during this thread I thought I would toss in a little outside observation info for Peterson. I ran across this article regarding his performance at Illinois and it seemed strikingly similar to what many of us on this board were saying when he was here. The point is it illustrates that in two programs different observers saw many of the same "issues" with his results.

https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2022/1 ... et-bielema

"the offense often left something to be desired"

"It’d be fair to say Illinois’ offense was anemic at times"

"Despite having an experienced offensive line and a veteran QB, Petersen couldn’t get the most out of his guys."

These same type of comments were made around when he was here. Many of us wanted to discount the warts due to Covid year. But with the same trend occurring at the next stop you basically have to say it was most likely his coaching. I am looking forward to our new guy but want to always learn from our past.

[bcoach]

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Kevin Barbay

This appears to be a good hire. I wasn’t sure exactly what MAC paid but it appears as though he is getting a slight bump. I would imagine that it’s also easier to move up from App than CMU so that has to influence it. I’m optimistic he can get a lot out of our talent.

Yes as I said it is not always about money.

[AppStFan1]

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Kevin Barbay

This appears to be a good hire. I wasn’t sure exactly what MAC paid but it appears as though he is getting a slight bump. I would imagine that it’s also easier to move up from App than CMU so that has to influence it. I’m optimistic he can get a lot out of our talent.

Yes as I said it is not always about money.

Not always about money and I'm sure there are other factors but I heard he is getting a raise to come here. CMU only paid like 150k and he is getting more than that to be our OC. For people who have kids they tend to lean towards what is better financially though and I don't blame them.

[bcoach]

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

Kevin Barbay

This appears to be a good hire. I wasn’t sure exactly what MAC paid but it appears as though he is getting a slight bump. I would imagine that it’s also easier to move up from App than CMU so that has to influence it. I’m optimistic he can get a lot out of our talent.

Yes as I said it is not always about money.

Not always about money and I'm sure there are other facts but I heard he is getting a raise to come here. CMU only paid like 150k and he is getting more than that to be our OC. For people who have kids they tend to lean towards what is better financially though and I don't blame them.

Ok I know it is important to you so you win.

[AppStFan1]

Kevin Barbay

This appears to be a good hire. I wasn’t sure exactly what MAC paid but it appears as though he is getting a slight bump. I would imagine that it’s also easier to move up from App than CMU so that has to influence it. I’m optimistic he can get a lot out of our talent.

Yes as I said it is not always about money.

Not always about money and I'm sure there are other facts but I heard he is getting a raise to come here. CMU only paid like 150k and he is getting more than that to be our OC. For people who have kids they tend to lean towards what is better financially though and I don't blame them.

Ok I know it is important to you so you win.

There is nothing to win. He was only making 150k at CMU and App offered more money. Perhaps he came here for multiple reasons but I don’t think it’s crazy to assume that the money factored into it.

[huskie3]

May be that he has a potential nfl qb to coach that influenced him to come to beautiful Boone NC.