Ponce going to Miami

[BallantyneApp]

I could be wrong, but I have a feeling Coach Clark and Doug knew this was coming well before the news broke yesterday. Based on his social media it appeared Frank was in Miami multiple times recently. That coupled with the constant rumor mill connecting him with Miami. On top of that Frank is a good dude, and I’m sure was very open and honest with Shawn and Doug.

I agree this probably moves fairly quickly, we may already have his replacement in mind.

GO APPS!!

He was very open about it. However, it did come as somewhat of a surprise. Ponce turned down the initial offer last week. Miami came back with an offer he couldn't refuse this week.

interesting. Good for him to make them pay him his worth. I'm assuming the 1st offer was qb coach only, and they came back with more $$ and passing game coordinator.

[Appstate88]

Every Play Caller we have had for the past 4 years has gotten a "big" pay raise for sitting in the seat for as little as 11 months.

2018 - Satt - UL
2019 - Drink - Miz
2020 - Peterson - IL
2021 - Ponce - The U

I would expect others good ones will see this and want to be our next Play Caller (OC).

[AppStFan1]

I could be wrong, but I have a feeling Coach Clark and Doug knew this was coming well before the news broke yesterday. Based on his social media it appeared Frank was in Miami multiple times recently. That coupled with the constant rumor mill connecting him with Miami. On top of that Frank is a good dude, and I’m sure was very open and honest with Shawn and Doug.

I agree this probably moves fairly quickly, we may already have his replacement in mind.

GO APPS!!

He was very open about it. However, it did come as somewhat of a surprise. Ponce turned down the initial offer last week. Miami came back with an offer he couldn't refuse this week.

No shock hearing that. I felt he would be gone after this season anyway due to his connections down there and wish him luck. I just hope we don't go to an App connection just because of that. I want to see Taylor Lamb back one day but give him some time to learn and grow so when he returns he is truly ready. There are some good ones at the FCS level we could call up.

[huskie3]

Pounce leaving his no surprise, after all he is 50+ needs to be looking after financial situation.

[appdaze]

Every Play Caller we have had for the past 4 years has gotten a "big" pay raise for sitting in the seat for as little as 11 months.

2018 - Satt - UL
2019 - Drink - Miz
2020 - Peterson - IL
2021 - Ponce - The U

I would expect others good ones will see this and want to be our next Play Caller (OC).

I've considered throwing my hat in for it. I would be fine moving back to Boone for 11 months and letting a bunch of top flight athletes make me look like a genius and then grab a million dollar contract somewhere for a year or two, then get fired and retire early.

[AtlAppMan]

Since App State has been VERY lucrative for the last 4 play callers, it would naturally be perceived as a GREAT place to improve your resume. That should play heavily into Clark's leverage for pulling in a top guy. At least look at it as a positive. I would just like to get 2-3 yrs out of the next guy, not expecting a great OC to stay here or anywhere for much longer than that if he is doing what we want him to do, deliver at a high level.

[bcoach]

I want to see someone from the outside. I want the best pick with no consideration for being an APP guy. A perfect example of why I feel that way is TL. Right away some folks are saying they want him to come back as OC or co OC. I like the guy, he was one of our best but his OC resume is 4-7 at Garner Webb. We can't just want a guy because he is an APP guy. We need someone with a proven track record regardless of where they played or went to school.

[mike87]

Do we have multi-year contracts with buyout clauses for these guys? With the money these P5 programs throw around I don't know that it would stop the poaching, but would certainly make us feel better about it after it happens.

[AppStateNews]

Do we have multi-year contracts with buyout clauses for these guys? With the money these P5 programs throw around I don't know that it would stop the poaching, but would certainly make us feel better about it after it happens.

Generally, not for the assistants. Gillin does not like multi year contracts for the assistants for good reason.

[yikas1]

I want someone who can score. Lots.

[appstatealum]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

[AppStFan1]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

[bcoach]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

[AppStFan1]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

[mike87]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

A scheme change might not be all bad. It worked well for a certain coach in the early 2000's who has a statue now outside the stadium. Set us on a trajectory that continues today. And strict adherence to a scheme was a hard fail for our gumroot brethren in South Ga.

I agree, a hungry OC with a plan...bring it.

[bcoach]

This is not the end of the world. We had turnover on the field and this does not mean we can't win. Anyone telling us the narrative that coaching change means we should expect to struggle does not know football. As long as we get a good coach we can still see improvement from Brice and our offense.

We can't afford Bentley. Our best bet is to get someone from a FCS program who is a young, innovative riser. I wonder who Clark has in mind. I'm sure he has a few names in his pocket.

Whoever the OC will be they better be on board with Burger being the guy down the line or else he is another miss. We can't keep signing a QB and then seeing them leave when their coach leaves to force us to hit the portal. HS kids won't come here if they keep seeing a new coach just throw someone to the side or that we just aren't hitting at QB.

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

[The Rock]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

[AppStFan1]

This is a blessing if we get a hungry OC with the drive to adapt a scheme thst fits our personnel. Tons of talent on this roster

That is what I would look for. A good coach who is creative and will adapt to personnel. Give me that over some specialized coach with an ego who claims he has to have a certain personnel. A good coach can win and produce heavily with good players. There has to be a hungry coach in FCS or position coach at a G5 who is ready to take this on. We have a ton of speed and overall talent that a lot of people should be excited to work with.

OR an OC at a G5

I almost included that but which schools does our OC job pay so much more that we could poach from for ours?

It's not always about money. Most of the time but not always.

Like you said, it usually is. I would be curious to hear which OCs at the G5 level would want to jump to App knowing what we pay.

[AppSt94]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

[appstate24]

Anyone heard of the possibility of Cardwell going back to Louisville??

He has gone back to Louisville.

Ughhh, to do what? Coach tight ends? They already have an OL coach.

Sucks losing guys during spring ball.

GO APPS!!