Mask at BOA Stadium

[asumba95]

The topic is about masks in BOA stadium. The point I was trying to make was that how can a mask only be required when in the indoor corridors of the stadium, but you can take it off when you're sitting in close proximity with thousands of others? It's the guidance that doesn't make sense to me. Just my .02 cents.

Go APPS!!

[mountaineerman]

No matter what Labor Day weekend is going to be awesome. App football Thursday staying the night in Charlotte getting up driving to Boone for what will be a epic weekend serenaded by Luke combs Saturday

[AppfaninCAALand]

Surgical masks are rated to protect against airborne particles 2.5 micrometers and larger, while N95 protect against 1 micrometers and up. Respirator masks worn by firefighters and automotive painters are rated for as small as 0.1 micrometers. Coronavirus is 0.006 micrometers.

But if it makes you feel better to keep inhaling the same dirty CO2 you exhaled for hours on end, knock yourself out.

Oh holy hell, here they come to comment on this one.

I'll only comment on the fact that the 0.006 micrometers is a few order of magnitudes smaller in size than what I have read. Here is an easy read (joking, this is pretty dense) in a peer-reviewed article with reviewer comments at the bottom along with author comments.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7224694/

Whoops, my mistake I had meant 0.06 not 0.006, I was going of memory and that is a significant difference. Whichever 0.1, 0.06, or 0.006 though doesn't much change the overall point that it's too small for most commercially available face coverings.

Thanks for the link. I actually did find it to be a fascinating read. Interesting that they did basically put N95 at the limits of effectiveness (studied effectiveness to 0.3 and suspected effectiveness down to 0.1, with the virus at 0.1). I have always seen N95s at 1.0, but it stands to reason a controlled scientific medical study would find it more effective than the CYA rating of ANSI/OSHA since real world use is probably more slack.

[WASU 93]

Some think masks are essential and some hate them. (Personally, I’m a bigger fan of ventilated areas and social distancing).

For those that hate, hopefully your love of App State is stronger than your hate of the mask.

I’d wear a mask, a coconut bra and fluffy pink bedroom slippers if that was the requirement to see games in person.

[tnave94]

Surgical masks are rated to protect against airborne particles 2.5 micrometers and larger, while N95 protect against 1 micrometers and up. Respirator masks worn by firefighters and automotive painters are rated for as small as 0.1 micrometers. Coronavirus is 0.006 micrometers.

But if it makes you feel better to keep inhaling the same dirty CO2 you exhaled for hours on end, knock yourself out.

Oh holy hell, here they come to comment on this one.

Just reading the Warning on the side of a box of BYD masks I have:
"The mask does not eliminate the risk of contracting any disease or infection."

No sh*% Sherlock. Manufacturers put warnings on boxes to reduce their liability. Any other genius wisdom you’d like to impart upon us today?

If I sneeze or cough in your face without a mask on are more particles coming at you than if you were wearing a mask or less?

[AtlAppMan]

Surgical masks are rated to protect against airborne particles 2.5 micrometers and larger, while N95 protect against 1 micrometers and up. Respirator masks worn by firefighters and automotive painters are rated for as small as 0.1 micrometers. Coronavirus is 0.006 micrometers.

But if it makes you feel better to keep inhaling the same dirty CO2 you exhaled for hours on end, knock yourself out.

Oh holy hell, here they come to comment on this one.

Just reading the Warning on the side of a box of BYD masks I have:
"The mask does not eliminate the risk of contracting any disease or infection."

No sh*% Sherlock. Manufacturers put warnings on boxes to reduce their liability. Any other genius wisdom you’d like to impart upon us today?

If I sneeze or cough in your face without a mask on are more particles coming at you than if you were wearing a mask or less?

I had left this thread behind but your comment forced my hand back. I only have one question for you based on your statement, “So have you been wearing masks all your life? If you are so worried about yourself and others, then why not?”.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Surgical masks are rated to protect against airborne particles 2.5 micrometers and larger, while N95 protect against 1 micrometers and up. Respirator masks worn by firefighters and automotive painters are rated for as small as 0.1 micrometers. Coronavirus is 0.006 micrometers.

But if it makes you feel better to keep inhaling the same dirty CO2 you exhaled for hours on end, knock yourself out.

Oh holy hell, here they come to comment on this one.

Just reading the Warning on the side of a box of BYD masks I have:
"The mask does not eliminate the risk of contracting any disease or infection."

No sh*% Sherlock. Manufacturers put warnings on boxes to reduce their liability. Any other genius wisdom you’d like to impart upon us today?

If I sneeze or cough in your face without a mask on are more particles coming at you than if you were wearing a mask or less?

I had left this thread behind but your comment forced my hand back. I only have one question for you based on your statement, “So have you been wearing masks all your life? If you are so worried about yourself and others, then why not?”.

I have not been wearing a mask my entire life, but we have not had a pandemic of this scale since WWI and the flu in scope and severity of the illness. I was born in 1969 so I missed that by a few decades. Hopefully in more normal times people will be willing to mask up more to stop the spread of other diseases like the flu and even the common cold. One difference is the common cold does require someone to be intubated and a lot of Covid cases have required this. But the flu can be deadly and on top of vaccines wearing a mask would help with this as well. Of course the flu kills a few thousand each year in our country on average and not well over half a million.

There is a sense of scale at play here and a need for a sense of nuance in how things in life are done by some as well. Both are being missed by more than a few it seems.

[BambooRdApp]

Hopefully in more normal times people will be willing to mask up more to stop the spread of other diseases like the flu and even the common cold...
As a personal decision...I hope not ever...others can make their own decisions...

[Gonzo]

Went to the Panthers game last night. We sit in an upper section. Didn’t see many masks in the corridors. We had N95s with us in case we got bunched up in security but it wasn’t packed at all.

Unsure about enforcement in the actual indoor/suite sections.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Hopefully in more normal times people will be willing to mask up more to stop the spread of other diseases like the flu and even the common cold...
As a personal decision...I hope not ever...others can make their own decisions...

Some people care about others and the welfare or others and others don't give a f'. I am sure there are folks that don't see anything wrong with driving impaired or others may not be bothered by leaving a loaded gun available for a child to play with. I guess they don't give a f' either.

[mike87]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

[BambooRdApp]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

Cars are generally safe at 55 MPH if built to current safety standards and seat belts are used. Driving at 85 or 90 MPH is a different situation. Again no nuance at all in some of your lives it seems.

And what other conclusion is one to draw if someone is complaining about a minor inconvenience of a face mask when research study after research study proves it helps. Are masks perfect? No, but they help.

You could ask these folks how they fill about masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... 9-n1277355 or ask the coach at WCU.

[Saint3333]

11 days until football.

[Seattleapp]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

Cars are generally safe at 55 MPH if built to current safety standards and seat belts are used. Driving at 85 or 90 MPH is a different situation. Again no nuance at all in some of your lives it seems.

And what other conclusion is one to draw if someone is complaining about a minor inconvenience of a face mask when research study after research study proves it helps. Are masks perfect? No, but they help.

You could ask these folks how they fill about masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... 9-n1277355 or ask the coach at WCU.

Dude you are completely obsessed with this topic. But the question begs. Did you ever in your life wear a mask before Covid? I’m gonna go ahead and say no. If you want to wear a mask for the rest of your life no one is stopping you, but telling people they should wear masks to combat the common cold is insane. Humans are designed to build immunity to things. It’s how we have survived as a species. Obviously vaccines have saved us from some things but there are lots of bugs out there we are meant to fight off naturally. You keep saying nuance but then take the most extreme position

[NewApp]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

Cars are generally safe at 55 MPH if built to current safety standards and seat belts are used. Driving at 85 or 90 MPH is a different situation. Again no nuance at all in some of your lives it seems.

And what other conclusion is one to draw if someone is complaining about a minor inconvenience of a face mask when research study after research study proves it helps. Are masks perfect? No, but they help.

You could ask these folks how they fill about masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... 9-n1277355 or ask the coach at WCU.

Dude you are completely obsessed with this topic. But the question begs. Did you ever in your life wear a mask before Covid? I’m gonna go ahead and say no. If you want to wear a mask for the rest of your life no one is stopping you, but telling people they should wear masks to combat the common cold is insane. Humans are designed to build immunity to things. It’s how we have survived as a species. Obviously vaccines have saved us from some things but there are lots of bugs out there we are meant to fight off naturally. You keep saying nuance but then take the most extreme position

You are so nice.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

Cars are generally safe at 55 MPH if built to current safety standards and seat belts are used. Driving at 85 or 90 MPH is a different situation. Again no nuance at all in some of your lives it seems.

And what other conclusion is one to draw if someone is complaining about a minor inconvenience of a face mask when research study after research study proves it helps. Are masks perfect? No, but they help.

You could ask these folks how they fill about masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... 9-n1277355 or ask the coach at WCU.

Dude you are completely obsessed with this topic. But the question begs. Did you ever in your life wear a mask before Covid? I’m gonna go ahead and say no. If you want to wear a mask for the rest of your life no one is stopping you, but telling people they should wear masks to combat the common cold is insane. Humans are designed to build immunity to things. It’s how we have survived as a species. Obviously vaccines have saved us from some things but there are lots of bugs out there we are meant to fight off naturally. You keep saying nuance but then take the most extreme position

I never said anyone must to wear a mask due to the common cold, at least that was not my intent. I was just pointing out that masks do indeed prevent the spread of viruses and bacteria some of which are deadly and some of which are just mild inconveniences. Both common cold and flu numbers were down last winter by a lot. Masks and social distancing is why.

I made a comment about masks and the spread of many diseases, and you make it sound like I am demanding we all wear masks forever into the future. I never said that. Again back to nuance and some don't seem to have any of it. I stand by the statement as typed.

[Rekdiver]

Those that don’t understand by now that masks have helped saved lives with one of the most virulent pandemics in modern history are just misguided. Particularly with the new variant it’s important. Not more than getting the vaccine which will save even more but the sum of preventative measures. For those who want to “Live Free or Die” It may be live free and die. “Stupid is as stupid does”

[Seattleapp]

55 speed limit saves lives too.

Seems like we should lower it to 25 on all roads, including interstates. If two lane highway with no divider, we should only allow people to drive one way at a time

Because if we do not, the recurring response is to pull at the heart-strings (the common and easy come back....that those have an opposing view...we do not care about others.

Another idea...full astronaut suits for the rest of time. What a beautiful thought...

Cars are generally safe at 55 MPH if built to current safety standards and seat belts are used. Driving at 85 or 90 MPH is a different situation. Again no nuance at all in some of your lives it seems.

And what other conclusion is one to draw if someone is complaining about a minor inconvenience of a face mask when research study after research study proves it helps. Are masks perfect? No, but they help.

You could ask these folks how they fill about masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... 9-n1277355 or ask the coach at WCU.

Dude you are completely obsessed with this topic. But the question begs. Did you ever in your life wear a mask before Covid? I’m gonna go ahead and say no. If you want to wear a mask for the rest of your life no one is stopping you, but telling people they should wear masks to combat the common cold is insane. Humans are designed to build immunity to things. It’s how we have survived as a species. Obviously vaccines have saved us from some things but there are lots of bugs out there we are meant to fight off naturally. You keep saying nuance but then take the most extreme position

I never said anyone must to wear a mask due to the common cold, at least that was not my intent. I was just pointing out that masks do indeed prevent the spread of viruses and bacteria some of which are deadly and some of which are just mild inconveniences. Both common cold and flu numbers were down last winter by a lot. Masks and social distancing is why.

I made a comment about masks and the spread of many diseases, and you make it sound like I am demanding we all wear masks forever into the future. I never said that. Again back to nuance and some don't seem to have any of it. I stand by the statement as typed.

“Hopefully in more normal times people will be willing to mask up more to stop the spread of other diseases like the flu and even the common cold.”

Again, I have no beef with you but those are your words. And colds and flus were down because everyone was locked in their houses. Again, wear the mask all the time if it makes you feel better. And I’ll even say if you wear a proper mask it could help with Covid. But you aren’t talking about Covid anymore. It’s now shifted to wearing masks to combat pretty much any airborne virus. And to that I would ask, what did you do before someone told you to wear a mask? You lived your life, risks and all. It’s not like masks were suddenly invented in the last 18 months. I’d argue we as a society could visit the overall health of our population if we are really concerned about people not getting sick but I don’t ever read about that. It’s just, get a shot, wear a mask, stay away from each other. And for Covid that’s fine but it seems like you would like this to become a permanent thing in our society and I respectfully disagree.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Notice I typed "willing" and I did not say "required." And no one was locked in their homes. Again no nuance. I went out as needed and shopped. If you were locked in then that was on you; either that or someone switched the locks around on the external doors of your home. I assume that did not happen.

Again no nuance on anything, no nuance and twisting around what was typed at that. Your an App grad. You can do better.