Would you pay double or triple?

[Wally]

Do not take away from student attendance. The students drive that game day buzz at the Rock and they must be included. I would propose students be required to sign up week to week to get a ticket but they have to use the ticket instead of their ID to get in. If you claim a ticket and it doesn't get used, you don't get anymore tickets. This gives the ticket office a number of how many "students" to allot for each week.

And before you go off on how giving a student a ticket takes away from revenue, remember, a FT student pays $391.50 per semester for Athletics Operations Fees and $122.50 for Athletic Facilities Debt Fees. That's $1028/year even if they never attend a game.

Whats leftover from the predetermined capacity can be filled in with season ticket holders on a rotational basis. That might mean I don't get a ticket to every home game but I'd like to see a system where no one gets shut out. I prefer the "rotation" rather than "allocating x%" because I it still gives families or groups the ability to enjoy the game together as a family/group.

If there is additional capacity still available, put those seats up for sale on a game by game basis.

Student attendance will be the biggest hurdle of all as far as safe game day practical matters.

Bench seats with no assigned seats. It will be impossible to enforce social distancing. It's much easier to assign alumni to specific seats that are distanced.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I agree that they're the most important stakeholder in the building. But I wonder if the typical sardine can student of a section that makes The Rock such a special place will be possible.

Not trying to start a debate, and I realize everyone feels differently about this, but if everyone wears their face covering I'd feel perfectly safe without the distancing.

[Ozzies]

I hear you Gonzo. I wasn't specific enough but part of what i meant about students having to get an actual ticket meant they would have "assigned seating". Its been 30+ years since I graced the student section so I cant remember if those rows and seats are lettered/numbered but that shouldn't be hard to do. Heck, it might even mean they have to extend up into "regular" seating. That's why I say "whats left over" goes to season ticket holders as fillers.

But I'm with you, trying to keep them spread out is going to be like herding cats.

[WASU 93]

Do not take away from student attendance. The students drive that game day buzz at the Rock and they must be included. I would propose students be required to sign up week to week to get a ticket but they have to use the ticket instead of their ID to get in. If you claim a ticket and it doesn't get used, you don't get anymore tickets. This gives the ticket office a number of how many "students" to allot for each week.

And before you go off on how giving a student a ticket takes away from revenue, remember, a FT student pays $391.50 per semester for Athletics Operations Fees and $122.50 for Athletic Facilities Debt Fees. That's $1028/year even if they never attend a game.

Whats leftover from the predetermined capacity can be filled in with season ticket holders on a rotational basis. That might mean I don't get a ticket to every home game but I'd like to see a system where no one gets shut out. I prefer the "rotation" rather than "allocating x%" because I it still gives families or groups the ability to enjoy the game together as a family/group.

If there is additional capacity still available, put those seats up for sale on a game by game basis.

Student attendance will be the biggest hurdle of all as far as safe game day practical matters.

Bench seats with no assigned seats. It will be impossible to enforce social distancing. It's much easier to assign alumni to specific seats that are distanced.

I'm not saying you're wrong. I agree that they're the most important stakeholder in the building. But I wonder if the typical sardine can student of a section that makes The Rock such a special place will be possible.

Not trying to start a debate, and I realize everyone feels differently about this, but if everyone wears their face covering I'd feel perfectly safe without the distancing.

I attended the Bristol All-Star Race. For the race, you could by either $35 seats or $65 seats in groups of 1-10 people. You were not allowed to choose seating beyond that.

The track then spaced everyone and assigned you (your group) a seat. Everyone sat in their assigned seats (no face coverings). Many wore face coverings while going up and down aisles and in the concourse.

Tickets were not sold after midnight the night before and all ticketing was done via their app.

The same thing could work for season ticket holders and for students. Allow students to attend in groups and space them out.

And yes, I would give up my seat this year to allow my son, an incoming Freshman to experience the games as a student.

[Appstate88]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.

GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.

GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

Not a bad idea but I don't think there are 5000 season ticket holders who would/are donating $1000.

[ASU85Grad]

Gates open three hours before game time so there is time to take everyone’s temperature. Any high temperatures are not let in. Mask are required or you are ask to leave. It must stay on. Not quite 6 feet, but seat one seat apart.

[Appstate88]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.


GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

Not a bad idea but I don't think there are 5000 season ticket holders who would/are donating $1000.

Ok maybe we change it to
$1000 Donation = 1 season ticket.
$1500 Donation = 1-2 season tickets.
$2000 Donation = 1-4 season tickets.
$2500 or > Donation = 1-6 season tickets.

Goal is to sustain the Athletics programs and sell 5000 seats for every home game. Season ticket holders could re-sell on secondary markets to those that want to go to 1-2 games for face value or greater.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.

GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

For what the students are forced to pay in athletic fees there should be no limits on student admission up to health mandates required for social distancing. Maybe they are not able to get guest tickets and maybe they have to order a certain amount of time in advance but if they want in they get in unless the capacity due to social distancing only allows for a certain numbers of seats below the student body population and then one has to go to a lottery and then if demand is greater than the number of seats at least rotate the student like a union hiring hall were everyone gets a shot and start with seniors first. I know the reality is that every student has never gone to a game so there will likely be able to free up some seats for non student fans but there should be a student revolt if they are paying those fees and not getting access.

[huskie3]

I agree that students contribute lots to the game day environment, but please stop using the $1028 Fee argument. That is for ANY home game , not just the 6 football games. So it not a comparison to FB season ticket holders. There are over 2,000 season ticket holders in premium seating paying 4+ times that amount.

Just use the reasoning that students create a great atmosphere.

rant over

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

I agree that students contribute lots to the game day environment, but please stop using the $1028 Fee argument. That is for ANY home game , not just the 6 football games. So it not a comparison to FB season ticket holders. There are over 2,000 season ticket holders in premium seating paying 4+ times that amount.

Just use the reasoning that students create a great atmosphere.

rant over

The difference is the students can not opt out of the fee and no one is forcing those paying 4x that either for the premium seats.

And yes the athletic fee is for any home games but not every sport charges an entry fee so one needs to look at only the events that charge. Some events happen at the same time and the reality is that I can't imagine students having time to go to every event.

The question to ask is if the fee was 100% optional (with the lose of free admission of course) how many students would opt out at paying over $4,100 over 4 years at App, and knowing many have loans if they included the interest on that $4,100 and the total cost what would it look like. I have a feeling the $20 million the students contribute each year would be a lot less as many would balk and just pay for 6 football tickets and a few basketball or not even attend games.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

I agree that students contribute lots to the game day environment, but please stop using the $1028 Fee argument. That is for ANY home game , not just the 6 football games. So it not a comparison to FB season ticket holders. There are over 2,000 season ticket holders in premium seating paying 4+ times that amount.

Just use the reasoning that students create a great atmosphere.

rant over

My math might be off, it's been a long day, but using the $1028 figure you gave...

Season tickets for football are what $380 for premium? Men's and women's basketball season tickets together would run you $180. Baseball season tickets are $90. Volleyball $50 That's $700 before you throw in all of the other sports, which I assure you are either free to watch or dirt cheap, likely not making up the $328 difference. So, you could buy season tickets to all sports as a non-student and have a guaranteed seat versus general admissions and still pay less than the students will pay.

Students aren't even guaranteed a seat yet still have to pay. I know a lot of students who were turned away from seeing Steph Curry come to Boone in I think it was 2009.

[huskie3]

09 I was referring to club which are considerably more. The least expensive are the very small recent grad area in NEZ at $500.

I wish we had more support for YOSEF so we did not have to do the fees.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

09 I was referring to club which are considerably more. The least expensive are the very small recent grad area in NEZ at $500.

I wish we had more support for YOSEF so we did not have to do the fees.

Yosef Club support is HUGE! In your personal opinion what more do you think could be done? I think the reach out and communication is weak from the Yosef Club. I know we could all promote it ourselves but someone like me with limited friends I still talk to from college and living in an area with little interest in App State it makes it hard.

[BurkeGrad]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.


GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

Not a bad idea but I don't think there are 5000 season ticket holders who would/are donating $1000.

Ok maybe we change it to
$1000 Donation = 1 season ticket.
$1500 Donation = 1-2 season tickets.
$2000 Donation = 1-4 season tickets.
$2500 or > Donation = 1-6 season tickets.

Goal is to sustain the Athletics programs and sell 5000 seats for every home game. Season ticket holders could re-sell on secondary markets to those that want to go to 1-2 games for face value or greater.

As a season ticket holder and Yosef contributor for preferred seating I would not qualify under the $1,000+ annual donation for tickets under your guidelines. I have been a Yosef member since the 1980s. Shouldn’t I, who’s supported the athletic program for decades, receive consideration over someone that’s plunked down $1K or more for a couple of years? What about using the Yosef point system? If I am shut out of my 2 tickets I would expect a full ticket refund but not for my Yosef contribution.

[huskie3]

09 I would like to see YOSEF do a phone canvas like the Education Foundation does or did do. They could use Student YOSEF members to call. It seems recently they are going after large contributors.

[Ozzies]

I agree that students contribute lots to the game day environment, but please stop using the $1028 Fee argument. That is for ANY home game , not just the 6 football games. So it not a comparison to FB season ticket holders. There are over 2,000 season ticket holders in premium seating paying 4+ times that amount.

Just use the reasoning that students create a great atmosphere.

rant over

Just curious but how many season tickets to you have to Women's Volleyball? Each FT student has one they are required to pay for.

[Stonewall]

YC staff has grown at a rate greatly exceeding return on investment it seems.

[McLeansvilleAppFan]

Lottery for students, no additional costs - 4000 per game...
1500 in West Side Lower level,
1500 in East Side Lower level,
1000 on regraded Miller Hill.

5000 for season ticket holders....requires at least $1000 donation to Yosef club this year... seats sold at face value.
500 seats in North End Zone
2500 seats in West Side Upper level.
2000 seats in East Side Upper level.


GameDay Masks provided to all as they enter the stadium. Masks match uniforms colors of the day. Masks must be worn. Seats are not assigned until you enter stadium and provided with the mask. First come first serve for all. Available seats are marked. Enough ushers available to ensure social distancing. Alcohol and concessions sold.

Not a bad idea but I don't think there are 5000 season ticket holders who would/are donating $1000.

Ok maybe we change it to
$1000 Donation = 1 season ticket.
$1500 Donation = 1-2 season tickets.
$2000 Donation = 1-4 season tickets.
$2500 or > Donation = 1-6 season tickets.

Goal is to sustain the Athletics programs and sell 5000 seats for every home game. Season ticket holders could re-sell on secondary markets to those that want to go to 1-2 games for face value or greater.

As a season ticket holder and Yosef contributor for preferred seating I would not qualify under the $1,000+ annual donation for tickets under your guidelines. I have been a Yosef member since the 1980s. Shouldn’t I, who’s supported the athletic program for decades, receive consideration over someone that’s plunked down $1K or more for a couple of years? What about using the Yosef point system? If I am shut out of my 2 tickets I would expect a full ticket refund but not for my Yosef contribution.

You certainly should have priority over me in that I have not contributed as much nor for as long a time as you and have not been able to purchase season tickets and using the point system makes perfect sense. And if using the point system means some paying ticket-holders do not get a seat then they should get a refund if they ask for one. But no one is forcing you to make that purchase. The students they can NOT opt out. If you are student teacher in Wilmington you are paying that fee. If you are a student your are paying or you are not going to be enrolled.

If students purchased tickets like you or I do on a voluntary basis then you point stands but to force payment changes everything in my view.

[BayouApp]

09 I was referring to club which are considerably more. The least expensive are the very small recent grad area in NEZ at $500.

I wish we had more support for YOSEF so we did not have to do the fees.

Yosef Club support is HUGE! In your personal opinion what more do you think could be done? I think the reach out and communication is weak from the Yosef Club. I know we could all promote it ourselves but someone like me with limited friends I still talk to from college and living in an area with little interest in App State it makes it hard.

I agree a little more outreach and communications would help, but I'm sure there are staff limitations. If we could just get more people even at the smallest level. EVERY business in Watauga County and the surrounding area that benefits financially from ASU and attendance at sporting events should be a member and should proudly display their Yosef Club decal (good for business too). Many that do business with the athletic department should as well regardless where they are located. A lot of companies have significant contracts for stadium work; they should join! It may be that most do join (smart business move), but if not just a friendly invitation may be all it takes. This is small thing, but it may help to streamline the process for joining the Yosef Club. Provide a faster online option comparable to online retailers, including the ability to save payment information securely to expedite the process the next time. The PDF form is okay, but it is not as fast nor as easy as other options. Something similar to the LSU TAF one would be good: https://www.lsutaf.org/donate

[pop5app]

09 I was referring to club which are considerably more. The least expensive are the very small recent grad area in NEZ at $500.

I wish we had more support for YOSEF so we did not have to do the fees.

Yosef Club support is HUGE! In your personal opinion what more do you think could be done? I think the reach out and communication is weak from the Yosef Club. I know we could all promote it ourselves but someone like me with limited friends I still talk to from college and living in an area with little interest in App State it makes it hard.

I agree a little more outreach and communications would help, but I'm sure there are staff limitations. If we could just get more people even at the smallest level. EVERY business in Watauga County and the surrounding area that benefits financially from ASU and attendance at sporting events should be a member and should proudly display their Yosef Club decal (good for business too). Many that do business with the athletic department should as well regardless where they are located. A lot of companies have significant contracts for stadium work; they should join! It may be that most do join (smart business move), but if not just a friendly invitation may be all it takes. This is small thing, but it may help to streamline the process for joining the Yosef Club. Provide a faster online option comparable to online retailers, including the ability to save payment information securely to expedite the process the next time. The PDF form is okay, but it is not as fast nor as easy as other options. Something similar to the LSU TAF one would be good: https://www.lsutaf.org/donate

Sounds like a lot of good ideas. Do we have any kind of plan to increase Yosef Club membership or season ticket sales???