AAC SUCKS!

[appstatealum]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

[t4pizza]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

[AppStFan1]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

[citroknight]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

[appstatealum]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

I lean more your way overall..... But a lot of our "close losses" had more to do with Drinks tendency to go super conservative with leads. We were throttling UNC by halftime and came out conservative in the second half. We held USC to a shockingly low yardage rushing and they couldn't move the ball and we went in to clock mode and prevent so early. Not to mention all of the games where he refused to throw the ball to Sutton. Look at the GaS game, we got down and they started force feeding Sutton and he just kept delivering to get us in the game. It was bizare that Drink called games the way he did, but it led to wins.

[t4pizza]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

You are right, those teams aren't as good as Penn State but we went to Happy Valley last year and should have won the game, we know the team they have. I watch a ton of AAC, I live less than an hour from UCF and many of my friends and my kids friends attend so I am well versed in UCF and all their opponents. I have said for the last year, we are the best G5 team and I stand by that after watching lots and lots of AAC football. What AAC team has a better P5 win than either of ours? I like UCF, my sons girlfriend is a sophomore there and a couple kids from the youth football league that I ran for years have played or are currently playing for UCF, so I follow the team and their opponents (not nearly as close as you do) and I can tell you that we are better than anyone in AAC this year. I just wished we played some of those team so we could prove it to everyone. I have said all year, and I stand but it, that UCF propped up the league and when Cincy beat you guys they got the benefit of the doubt and were dubbed the G5 team to beat until Memphis beat them… twice. But we all know, and I am sure you will agree, that UCF wasn't the top 15 team that it was perceived to be at the beginning of the season and therefore Cincy's win wasn't as impressive. It is still a really good win, but it wasn't worth the lofty status that Cincy enjoyed by winning the game. Once again, what P5 win was better than ours, UCLA, Old Miss, Stanford, Maryland, TCU? I think we can all agree that none of those teams are great teams and I am pretty sure that UNC finished with a better record than any of them and is the only one that went to a bowl and (oh yeah) beat the crap out of the AAC representative in the bowl. So yeah, our P5 wins aren't that impressive but we did beat UNC on their home field (and I know you don't get the big brother little shit adoptive step kid entitled feeling that UNC has towards App) but I assure you that beating them there was far greater than a neutral site bowl game (think beating UF or FSU in Gainesville or Tally regardless of how good either of their seasons are going). Hence why I have no problem stating that we are the best G5 this year and would have won the AAC easily in my mind. This isn't a knock to the AAC or the team that represent the conference, it is just my opinion that App is a far more dominant team. Hell, had our new hot shot coach understood what a rivalry was, we should have been undefeated.

[AppSt12]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

Bingo. We could be the best G5 team...in the same realm as Boise Memphis, Cincinatti, UCF and FAU...but no one would win the AAC easily. AAC fans are ridiculous because of the fake P6 stuff, but dont let it cloud you judgement...no they arnt P5...but it's a damn hard league to win.

[AppStFan1]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

I lean more your way overall..... But a lot of our "close losses" had more to do with Drinks tendency to go super conservative with leads. We were throttling UNC by halftime and came out conservative in the second half. We held USC to a shockingly low yardage rushing and they couldn't move the ball and we went in to clock mode and prevent so early. Not to mention all of the games where he refused to throw the ball to Sutton. Look at the GaS game, we got down and they started force feeding Sutton and he just kept delivering to get us in the game. It was bizare that Drink called games the way he did, but it led to wins.

I'm with both of you. I think we could be the best G5 team and we certainly did go in clock mode early a lot so I feel like we could have won some games by a bigger margin but P5 games are hard for G5 teams so you never know. I think we could win the AAC but I could have also seen us lose 1-2 games. If anyone in the AAC thinks App is a second tier team that could not compete though they are mistaken. I noticed depth got to Memphis bad and that was never a problem for us.

Your comment on Sutton is one I still think about. How bad could we have won UNC and SC if we had force fed him a lot more and been aggressive? We will never know.

[ericsaid]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

If App beats both Wisconsin and Wake Forest on the road they can afford to drop a conference game, so long as it isn't the championship. The AAC will cry foul of course.

However, a more likely scenario is App splits those games. If App beats Wisconsin and loses to Wake, I think there is more margin for error down the road. Vice versa and App is back where they were in 2019, hoping for NY6 and expecting Camelia.

[ericsaid]

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

I lean more your way overall..... But a lot of our "close losses" had more to do with Drinks tendency to go super conservative with leads. We were throttling UNC by halftime and came out conservative in the second half. We held USC to a shockingly low yardage rushing and they couldn't move the ball and we went in to clock mode and prevent so early. Not to mention all of the games where he refused to throw the ball to Sutton. Look at the GaS game, we got down and they started force feeding Sutton and he just kept delivering to get us in the game. It was bizare that Drink called games the way he did, but it led to wins.

I'm with both of you. I think we could be the best G5 team and we certainly did go in clock mode early a lot so I feel like we could have won some games by a bigger margin but P5 games are hard for G5 teams so you never know. I think we could win the AAC but I could have also seen us lose 1-2 games. If anyone in the AAC thinks App is a second tier team that could not compete though they are mistaken. I noticed depth got to Memphis bad and that was never a problem for us.

Your comment on Sutton is one I still think about. How bad could we have won UNC and SC if we had force fed him a lot more and been aggressive? We will never know.

The offense seemed to play more efficiently with Corey out. I'm thinking that this is on Drink as well. If Corey is garnering bracket coverage and you're still trying to "force feed" you're taking the ball out of Evans, Thomas Hennigan, and Malik William's hands; all capable playmakers.

[AppStFan1]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

If App beats both Wisconsin and Wake Forest on the road they can afford to drop a conference game, so long as it isn't the championship. The AAC will cry foul of course.

However, a more likely scenario is App splits those games. If App beats Wisconsin and loses to Wake, I think there is more margin for error down the road. Vice versa and App is back where they were in 2019, hoping for NY6 and expecting Camelia.

The perception of the SBC is so low that there is only one SBC game we could lose and that team must do very well in their OOC and can't lose to others in the league. We play all the tough teams at home except for Georgia Southern and they have the one schedule that could be a huge statement outside of ours.

Look at how the GSU schedule beaks down. They play FAU, Boise State, and Ole Miss. It would be huge for them to get a MWC, CUSA, and SEC win. If both teams enter our game undefeated they will be ranked and the winner is in the driver's seat for the NY6. If we lose to anyone else in the SBC and sweep the P5 games we would still need the AAC Champ to have 2 losses and our lone SBC loss again must be a close one to a GSU team who does well against those 3 teams.

Arkansas State would have to be undefeated with wins over Memphis and Michigan for us to be able to lose that game. I don't see that happening.

In all honesty we need to pull for Georgia Southern next year. Both of us would be ranked heading into our game if both teams are undefeated. There is no doubt about that and it would go a long way into helping the perception of the league.

Here is their schedule in case you wanted to take a look: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2020/team/georgia-southern

It would also be good if Louisiana beats Wyoming and at least plays close with Missouri. I actually hope Napier goes into Missouri and handles them too.

The trouble is I don't see Louisiana, Georgia Southern, and Arkansas State doing all of that so I feel like we better just sweep the league and look good doing it. However, if somehow our league can win 2 SEC games, beat the top MWC, CUSA, and AAC team then the perception would quickly flip and the SBC would become the leader of the G5 pack.

[AppStFan1]

It may be hard to figure how App could have done but it isn't hard to know that we would not give up nearly 400 yards in rushing to Penn State. The Penn State team this year was about as solid as last year's team and we should have beat them in Happy Valley. Honestly, that loss still hurts to me. I think on a neutral site, we stymie their rushing game and make a far better game of it than Memphis did. The AAC is all about quick strike, high scoring offenses with little to no defense. App would win that conference this year without a doubt in my mind. We are the best G5 team in 2019 and we should be in 2020 as well.

App is a great team and can contend in the AAC but I doubt they win the AAC this year easily. The high flying offenses get more attention but the defenses aren't as bad as they're made out to be.

I'm not trying to stir the hornet's nest here since I'm just a guest and y'all are a great fan base. But I'm not sure how anyone can feel so confident about a matchup against Penn State given close wins against a bad South Carolina and decent UNC, both nowhere near as good as Penn State.

I lean more your way overall..... But a lot of our "close losses" had more to do with Drinks tendency to go super conservative with leads. We were throttling UNC by halftime and came out conservative in the second half. We held USC to a shockingly low yardage rushing and they couldn't move the ball and we went in to clock mode and prevent so early. Not to mention all of the games where he refused to throw the ball to Sutton. Look at the GaS game, we got down and they started force feeding Sutton and he just kept delivering to get us in the game. It was bizare that Drink called games the way he did, but it led to wins.

I'm with both of you. I think we could be the best G5 team and we certainly did go in clock mode early a lot so I feel like we could have won some games by a bigger margin but P5 games are hard for G5 teams so you never know. I think we could win the AAC but I could have also seen us lose 1-2 games. If anyone in the AAC thinks App is a second tier team that could not compete though they are mistaken. I noticed depth got to Memphis bad and that was never a problem for us.

Your comment on Sutton is one I still think about. How bad could we have won UNC and SC if we had force fed him a lot more and been aggressive? We will never know.

The offense seemed to play more efficiently with Corey out. I'm thinking that this is on Drink as well. If Corey is garnering bracket coverage and you're still trying to "force feed" you're taking the ball out of Evans, Thomas Hennigan, and Malik William's hands; all capable playmakers.

When I say force feed I mean just say 8-10 targets a game. Sutton is so good that he should get that many. He is the most talented WR in the league but does not get targeted like he is.

Like you said though, all of them are capable. I feel like Virgil, Hennigan, Williams Jr, Williams, Harrington, Anderson, Wells, and some others all will be tough for others to stop. This 2020 senior class is the best we have ever had. It is a shame Evans won't come back because we could have had 3 draft picks next year with him back. We should still have 1-2.

[TheAppalachianState]

The AAC is over hyped. How many of their games exhibit a lack of defense? They run up and down the field against each other in their games and that lack of defense is glaring when they face decent P5’s.

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

If App beats both Wisconsin and Wake Forest on the road they can afford to drop a conference game, so long as it isn't the championship. The AAC will cry foul of course.

However, a more likely scenario is App splits those games. If App beats Wisconsin and loses to Wake, I think there is more margin for error down the road. Vice versa and App is back where they were in 2019, hoping for NY6 and expecting Camelia.

The perception of the SBC is so low that there is only one SBC game we could lose and that team must do very well in their OOC and can't lose to others in the league. We play all the tough teams at home except for Georgia Southern and they have the one schedule that could be a huge statement outside of ours.

Look at how the GSU schedule beaks down. They play FAU, Boise State, and Ole Miss. It would be huge for them to get a MWC, CUSA, and SEC win. If both teams enter our game undefeated they will be ranked and the winner is in the driver's seat for the NY6. If we lose to anyone else in the SBC and sweep the P5 games we would still need the AAC Champ to have 2 losses and our lone SBC loss again must be a close one to a GSU team who does well against those 3 teams.

Arkansas State would have to be undefeated with wins over Memphis and Michigan for us to be able to lose that game. I don't see that happening.

In all honesty we need to pull for Georgia Southern next year. Both of us would be ranked heading into our game if both teams are undefeated. There is no doubt about that and it would go a long way into helping the perception of the league.

Here is their schedule in case you wanted to take a look: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2020/team/georgia-southern

It would also be good if Louisiana beats Wyoming and at least plays close with Missouri. I actually hope Napier goes into Missouri and handles them too.

The trouble is I don't see Louisiana, Georgia Southern, and Arkansas State doing all of that so I feel like we better just sweep the league and look good doing it. However, if somehow our league can win 2 SEC games, beat the top MWC, CUSA, and AAC team then the perception would quickly flip and the SBC would become the leader of the G5 pack.

Will next year be the year Georgia Southern finds their groove again?? I love having GS go through misery, but the damage is crippling this conference severely with their terrible losses.

I’m sure we’d all hop on the chance to join the AAC. Perception may change over the years of the Sun Belt if GS, Troy, Arkansas State and Louisiana (who I think will be very good again next year again) start wrecking teams on their OOC. We can only control our destiny though, and in terms of growth from a football/brand standpoint, the AAC should be our target and we should be theirs if we keep going the way we have been.

[AppStFan1]

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

If App beats both Wisconsin and Wake Forest on the road they can afford to drop a conference game, so long as it isn't the championship. The AAC will cry foul of course.

However, a more likely scenario is App splits those games. If App beats Wisconsin and loses to Wake, I think there is more margin for error down the road. Vice versa and App is back where they were in 2019, hoping for NY6 and expecting Camelia.

The perception of the SBC is so low that there is only one SBC game we could lose and that team must do very well in their OOC and can't lose to others in the league. We play all the tough teams at home except for Georgia Southern and they have the one schedule that could be a huge statement outside of ours.

Look at how the GSU schedule beaks down. They play FAU, Boise State, and Ole Miss. It would be huge for them to get a MWC, CUSA, and SEC win. If both teams enter our game undefeated they will be ranked and the winner is in the driver's seat for the NY6. If we lose to anyone else in the SBC and sweep the P5 games we would still need the AAC Champ to have 2 losses and our lone SBC loss again must be a close one to a GSU team who does well against those 3 teams.

Arkansas State would have to be undefeated with wins over Memphis and Michigan for us to be able to lose that game. I don't see that happening.

In all honesty we need to pull for Georgia Southern next year. Both of us would be ranked heading into our game if both teams are undefeated. There is no doubt about that and it would go a long way into helping the perception of the league.

Here is their schedule in case you wanted to take a look: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2020/team/georgia-southern

It would also be good if Louisiana beats Wyoming and at least plays close with Missouri. I actually hope Napier goes into Missouri and handles them too.

The trouble is I don't see Louisiana, Georgia Southern, and Arkansas State doing all of that so I feel like we better just sweep the league and look good doing it. However, if somehow our league can win 2 SEC games, beat the top MWC, CUSA, and AAC team then the perception would quickly flip and the SBC would become the leader of the G5 pack.

Will next year be the year Georgia Southern finds their groove again?? I love having GS go through misery, but the damage is crippling this conference severely with their terrible losses.

I’m sure we’d all hop on the chance to join the AAC. Perception may change over the years of the Sun Belt if GS, Troy, Arkansas State and Louisiana (who I think will be very good again next year again) start wrecking teams on their OOC. We can only control our destiny though, and in terms of growth from a football/brand standpoint, the AAC should be our target and we should be theirs if we keep going the way we have been.

I know it makes most of us happy to see them lose but we need Georgia Southern to win the games they are suppose to and pull an upset. It would help the league big time if Troy, Arkansas St, Louisiana, and Georgia Southern all do well in OOC play. All we can do is handle our own schedule but we also need help from the league. If those teams all get beat by the P5s and then lose to games like Wyoming, Boise, FAU, Memphis, etc. then we can't complain if we have one loss and are passed by a 1-loss AAC. Until the others do what we are doing we have to run the table in the SBC and go undefeated to have a shot.

[Yosef84]

GS choking against Liberty was a big blow to the conference image this year. We do need our conference mates to do better in OOC play. Troy needs to get their act together also. The jury is still out on their coaching transition but it's not looking great so far and combined with injuries made for a really disappointing season.

[citroknight]

True, but Memphis showed the most balance thru out the year. Penn St just ran all over them. It's hard to figure out what App could've done against other teams because Drink catered game plans and was very conservative with leads. I think we were a hard team for most people to evaluate.

We are indeed hard to evaluate but if Wake does not lose those key guys to the NFL and Wisconsin does not lose much more than Taylor among juniors we will have two very good P5 teams on schedule that can prove it. You also have to think voters are more use to us so if we are 3-0 or 4-0 early we will get more benefit of the doubt than we have the last 2 years. We still can't lose to anyone in the SBC or else the NY6 dream is over but if we go undefeated next year we actually have a great chance regardless of what Memphis or Cincy does.

If App beats both Wisconsin and Wake Forest on the road they can afford to drop a conference game, so long as it isn't the championship. The AAC will cry foul of course.

However, a more likely scenario is App splits those games. If App beats Wisconsin and loses to Wake, I think there is more margin for error down the road. Vice versa and App is back where they were in 2019, hoping for NY6 and expecting Camelia.

The perception of the SBC is so low that there is only one SBC game we could lose and that team must do very well in their OOC and can't lose to others in the league. We play all the tough teams at home except for Georgia Southern and they have the one schedule that could be a huge statement outside of ours.

Look at how the GSU schedule beaks down. They play FAU, Boise State, and Ole Miss. It would be huge for them to get a MWC, CUSA, and SEC win. If both teams enter our game undefeated they will be ranked and the winner is in the driver's seat for the NY6. If we lose to anyone else in the SBC and sweep the P5 games we would still need the AAC Champ to have 2 losses and our lone SBC loss again must be a close one to a GSU team who does well against those 3 teams.

Arkansas State would have to be undefeated with wins over Memphis and Michigan for us to be able to lose that game. I don't see that happening.

In all honesty we need to pull for Georgia Southern next year. Both of us would be ranked heading into our game if both teams are undefeated. There is no doubt about that and it would go a long way into helping the perception of the league.

Here is their schedule in case you wanted to take a look: https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2020/team/georgia-southern

It would also be good if Louisiana beats Wyoming and at least plays close with Missouri. I actually hope Napier goes into Missouri and handles them too.

The trouble is I don't see Louisiana, Georgia Southern, and Arkansas State doing all of that so I feel like we better just sweep the league and look good doing it. However, if somehow our league can win 2 SEC games, beat the top MWC, CUSA, and AAC team then the perception would quickly flip and the SBC would become the leader of the G5 pack.

Will next year be the year Georgia Southern finds their groove again?? I love having GS go through misery, but the damage is crippling this conference severely with their terrible losses.

I’m sure we’d all hop on the chance to join the AAC. Perception may change over the years of the Sun Belt if GS, Troy, Arkansas State and Louisiana (who I think will be very good again next year again) start wrecking teams on their OOC. We can only control our destiny though, and in terms of growth from a football/brand standpoint, the AAC should be our target and we should be theirs if we keep going the way we have been.

In some areas, App State doesn't quite the fit the AAC profile of mostly big city urban universities. But the football prowess and investment is there. I'd love to have App State and Boise as part of the AAC. Boise would be tougher though since they have a good financial deal with the MWC tv contract and don't fit in the geographical footprint as nicely as App does.

[JMappfan5]

Hope all SBC teams win OOC games, BUT I will not pull for GaSo to win any SBC games! 0-8 sounds sweet!!!

[AppStFan1]

Hope all SBC teams win OOC games, BUT I will not pull for GaSo to win any SBC games! 0-8 sounds sweet!!!

With their schedule next year it would actually HELP US and be huge for the league if they perform well. Don't treat them like UNC/Duke and SC/Clemson treat each other. We actually need a team with the brand name of GSU to do well. It is good for the league. With their OOC next year if they only lose to say us and maybe one more league game but win 3 of 4 OOC games it would look good on the league. I understand the hate and they are too short sided down there to see it but for both schools if they want to be in the NY6 they need the other one to do well and be a strong win for them.

[JMappfan5]

Hope all SBC teams win OOC games, BUT I will not pull for GaSo to win any SBC games! 0-8 sounds sweet!!!

With their schedule next year it would actually HELP US and be huge for the league if they perform well. Don't treat them like UNC/Duke and SC/Clemson treat each other. We actually need a team with the brand name of GSU to do well. It is good for the league. With their OOC next year if they only lose to say us and maybe one more league game but win 3 of 4 OOC games it would look good on the league. I understand the hate and they are too short sided down there to see it but for both schools if they want to be in the NY6 they need the other one to do well and be a strong win for them.

You have your opinion and I have mine. If GaSo finishes in last place and we win our head-to-head battles for recruits, then I will be happy.

[AppStFan1]

Hope all SBC teams win OOC games, BUT I will not pull for GaSo to win any SBC games! 0-8 sounds sweet!!!

With their schedule next year it would actually HELP US and be huge for the league if they perform well. Don't treat them like UNC/Duke and SC/Clemson treat each other. We actually need a team with the brand name of GSU to do well. It is good for the league. With their OOC next year if they only lose to say us and maybe one more league game but win 3 of 4 OOC games it would look good on the league. I understand the hate and they are too short sided down there to see it but for both schools if they want to be in the NY6 they need the other one to do well and be a strong win for them.

You have your opinion and I have mine. If GaSo finishes in last place and we win our head-to-head battles for recruits, then I will be happy.

Oh I want to win our recruiting battles like you and normally I would not pull for them but their schedule is the type that could get the SBC a lot of respect if they do well OOC. I'm just saying it is a fact that we need the SBC, and particularly those with a big name and good OOC, to do well. It helps the strength rating of the SBC and we need the SBC to look better to help us in case we slip up. Under our current climate we can't lose a single conference game. It would be nice if we could have a slipup and get the benefit of the doubt like the AAC is now.