Please don't......

[App91]

Does anyone have video of these plays? People keep using the word "blocked", and at least for the PAT it is not accurate. Watched the play, and the replay on the board and kick was just bad. Snap and hold looked ok to my layman's eye.

According to the Journal, it hit our guy in the back.

[Rekdiver]

If you have to rely on a kicker to save your hide, then you need to evaluate the road of failures and mishaps that got you to that point.

But if he would have made the other kick he missed or even the extra point we wouldn't have needed the kick to win. Or a miss would have at least gotten us OT if he had made the XP. Again, blocks sometimes aren't the kickers fault. So it's tough to put blame on anyone. Feel like he was missing either way though.

After the first blocked kick (extra point), were any adjustment made? I wasn't at the game, therefore, I don't know.

According to the Wake players, the answer to your question is NO!
http://www.journalnow.com/sports/asu/wa ... 10cdf.html
Said his kicks were low all day.

We were commenting on his low kicks all day and saying if he didn't get some air under it it will get blocked.....special teams coach should have been all over that prior to the kick.

[App91]

Shouldn't have to from a 2nd year kicker, that should be one of the checklist items. As a side note, noted the backup #91 has a cannon. Kicking some bombs at the half in Athens.

[T-Dog]

Does anyone have video of these plays? People keep using the word "blocked", and at least for the PAT it is not accurate. Watched the play, and the replay on the board and kick was just bad. Snap and hold looked ok to my layman's eye.

According to the Journal, it hit our guy in the back.

Once again, the Journal was wrong.



Still a low kick.

[T-Dog]

On the final FG, Wake put a 6'5" WR (#7) on defense and he jumped 12-14 feet in the air. His hips were above everyone's heads.

[bigdaddyg]

On the final FG, Wake put a 6'5" WR (#7) on defense and he jumped 12-14 feet in the air. His hips were above everyone's heads.

Holy mackerel king fish! That dude has some hops. Could not see that on TV. How the hell did he jump that high??

[The Rock]

On paper, we dominated the game.
Time of possession: +11 minutes
First downs- +9
Passing yds- +136
Total offense- +150

Wake actually had more penalty yards than us, but that number is skewed by the last pass interference and unsportsmanlike after the blocked kick.
We made the bad mistakes at the worst times (I.e. offsides on the punt) that allowed wake to steal that game.
I would really like to hear satterfield just once say the penalties are a problem and will be corrected, instead of we played a good clean game and just didn’t make the plays when we needed to...

[Rick83]

My question is this:

To set the stage:
we are using a backup holder
Missed a FG earlier
PAT blocked earlier
On 4th down (Penalty for offsides, kick didn't count) the kick was missed

After the 4th down penalty, we received a 1st down and had 10 seconds. Given the above facts, why not run a play? Maybe it doesn't change anything, but 10 seconds was plenty of time to take a shot at the end zone with an underneath route to move the ball and get an easier kick. Underneath a were working well on the drive.

Personally I was shocked we didn't run a play after the penalty and kept FG unit on the field.

I wondered about that too, but we didn't have any timeouts left and you risk turning the ball over and even if you have a quick incompleted pass, you're then rushed setting up for the kick. But what do I know, I was questioning punting back to Wake at the 2:27 point and thought we should've gone for it instead but the defense got the 3 and out...so it turned out the be the right decision...so again, what do I know.

[T-Dog]

If Satt runs another play with 10 seconds left and something goes wrong that causes the game to end like a tackle inbounds, Lamb gets sacked, offensive penalty (not sure if there's a runoff rule in college), he gets roasted 10x more than he does now.

[Yosef84]

Like Rick83 I questioned punting back to WF with 2:27 left, but it turned out to be the right call. I think the coach made the right clock management decisions. Obviously, the rushing play where we got sacked on the next to last possession was a bad call, but the coach was hoping to catch them unprepared since everybody in the stadium was expecting a pass. Kudos to Wake for making the play. It was a gamble and it backfired. Move on.

Regarding Satterfield's comments on the penalties, I don't think you'll EVER hear Scott make a comment that implies he is blaming penalties for the loss. That would point the loss on a single player or on a few players instead of taking it as a team. He is taking the classy approach and I am completely confident that the penalties are being appropriately "discussed" in practice. For the record, I wasn't seeing all the unsportsmanlike calls that we saw earlier. I also saw a team that was very focused and didn't self destruct like we did against Miami, so I think discipline is improving. Still plenty of room to get better and I believe we will.

[Rekdiver]

I saw Sat ripping the White Hat a new one on several occasions...........As far as the last play goes...The game aint over until the ball stops rolling and the whistle blows. Technically the Wake bench players were on the field and that is a penalty....I'd hate to win a game that way but it was a penalty. Can you imagine if we were on the receiving end of that?

[AppSt94]

On the final FG, Wake put a 6'5" WR (#7) on defense and he jumped 12-14 feet in the air. His hips were above everyone's heads.

Holy mackerel king fish! That dude has some hops. Could not see that on TV. How the hell did he jump that high??

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[Rekdiver]

Take a good look at our blocking. Arent guys taught when guys jump to hit em in the midsection to keep them down?

[Rick83]

Take a good look at our blocking. Arent guys taught when guys jump to hit em in the midsection to keep them down?

Have no idea, but I can promise you that every special teams coach for every remaining Wake opponent will be preparing for that guy.

[Yosef84]

I thought the extra point was clearly blocked, but since some are insisting it hit our own man, I went back and watched the replay on ESPN3. It did NOT hit our own man and was clearly blocked by a Wake defender. It's hard to tell on the first angle, but they showed it on replay and it's pretty clear. The play happens at 35:15 in the ESPN stream. Maybe someone with "younger" eyes should check if you have questions.

[Rick83]

I thought the extra point was clearly blocked, but since some are insisting it hit our own man, I went back and watched the replay on ESPN3. It did NOT hit our own man and was clearly blocked by a Wake defender. It's hard to tell on the first angle, but they showed it on replay and it's pretty clear. The play happens at 35:15 in the ESPN stream. Maybe someone with "younger" eyes should check if you have questions.

You are correct, it was blocked. Wake had some tall players...

[bigdaddyg]

Why don't teams put a backup center from their basketball team (or another tall dude) on the roster and only use him as the guy right in front of the kicker and simply have him jump like that with his hands up? Sounds silly I'm sure but what is the downside? He doesn't hit the ball? Not like the guy will have to do anything else.

[AppSt94]

I thought the extra point was clearly blocked, but since some are insisting it hit our own man, I went back and watched the replay on ESPN3. It did NOT hit our own man and was clearly blocked by a Wake defender. It's hard to tell on the first angle, but they showed it on replay and it's pretty clear. The play happens at 35:15 in the ESPN stream. Maybe someone with "younger" eyes should check if you have questions.

You saw it correctly. Another point is that there were two Wake Defenders that broke through the point of attack.

[AAPP1]

Shouldn't have to from a 2nd year kicker, that should be one of the checklist items. As a side note, noted the backup #91 has a cannon. Kicking some bombs at the half in Athens.

I was watching him (#91) at the half of the Wake game and was wondering why he wasnt out there. His leg and accuracy seems much better.

[hapapp]

If that were the case he would be out there. You watch one guy for 5 minutes and decide he should be the first team kicker. I'll trust the guy who watches and coaches the kickers on a daily basis to decide who is our best bet to make the needed kicks. My guess is that if this becomes the norm rather than an aberration, a change would be made. Our current starter at that position has had a great 10 game run, I see no need to change based on one 2-4 FG game. And yes, over the course of a season you need your kicker to be better than that. Over the course of his 17 game career he is well above that.