2017 Schedule Speculation

Who Will We Schedule?

Host A FCS Opponent (Possibly one with a good marching band)
18
23%
P5 School On The Road? (Pay Day)
7
9%
G5 Opponent (Likely creating a home and home)
31
40%
DG Works His Magic and Lands Another P5 At Home (Start saving money now for Yosef Club and/or season tickets)
20
26%
Other
1
1%
 
Total votes: 77

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by Saint3333 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:50 pm

SOS really took a hit switching out Akron and Troy.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by WataugaMan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:09 am

Goapps15 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:A game against North Dakota State would be interesting, if a FCS game is being considered.
Interesting, yes. Also, an absolutely horrible idea.
Agreed with EastHallApp here. Why play any FCS team you could lose to? That's how Jim Grobe did it at Wake.
We're no Wake, we would win.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by luvyosef » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:22 am

T-Dog wrote:
luvyosef wrote:I was under the impression we were hosting Coastal in a conference game in 2017 and that they would knock one of this year's road teams off the rotation?
This is true. We play Coastal at home in 2017 so we won't play Troy.
Thanks. So our 2017 home slate will be Savannah St, Wake, Coastal, Ga Southern, UL-L, and New Mexico State. That's not bad. Wake, Coastal and Stink will bring good crowds. I just don't like TWO non-Saturday games. One? Fine. Two? No.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:58 am

WataugaMan wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:A game against North Dakota State would be interesting, if a FCS game is being considered.
Interesting, yes. Also, an absolutely horrible idea.
Agreed with EastHallApp here. Why play any FCS team you could lose to? That's how Jim Grobe did it at Wake.
We're no Wake, we would win.
Iowa and Kansas State aren't Wake, either.

We might win that game, we might not. The point is, it's a (figurative) no-win situation. If we win, it does virtually nothing for us; if we lose, we make headlines for losing to an FCS.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:25 am

EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:A game against North Dakota State would be interesting, if a FCS game is being considered.
Interesting, yes. Also, an absolutely horrible idea.
Agreed with EastHallApp here. Why play any FCS team you could lose to? That's how Jim Grobe did it at Wake.
We're no Wake, we would win.
Iowa and Kansas State aren't Wake, either.

We might win that game, we might not. The point is, it's a (figurative) no-win situation. If we win, it does virtually nothing for us; if we lose, we make headlines for losing to an FCS.
Very true.
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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by bh2oson » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:58 am

Does the Sun Belt Championship game start next year? Any ideas on how that game will be scheduled? Possibly the best record hosting?

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Unread post by AppStateNews » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:20 am

bh2oson wrote:Does the Sun Belt Championship game start next year? Any ideas on how that game will be scheduled? Possibly the best record hosting?
It starts in 2018. And yes, the highest seed (best record) will have the game on their home turf.
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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by Yosef84 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:00 am

EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:A game against North Dakota State would be interesting, if a FCS game is being considered.
Interesting, yes. Also, an absolutely horrible idea.
Agreed with EastHallApp here. Why play any FCS team you could lose to? That's how Jim Grobe did it at Wake.
We're no Wake, we would win.
Iowa and Kansas State aren't Wake, either.

We might win that game, we might not. The point is, it's a (figurative) no-win situation. If we win, it does virtually nothing for us; if we lose, we make headlines for losing to an FCS.

That is the dilemma of playing GOOD FCS teams. They ARE dangerous and the risk/reward equation doesn't balance. That's precisely why Wake stopped playing us. It sucked when we were on the other side, but I think we actually respected that they at least admitted that was the deal. NDSU is absolutely no joke. I absolutely believe we are a better team but if we played them 10 times, I doubt we win all 10. We would win the majority but they would give us a run. I'm not saying that to diminish App in any way. I'm just acknowledging that they are a unique animal in FCS these days and deserve respect.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by ASUGoose » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:24 am

appst89 wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:It will be Savannah State. Just confirmed from a very credible source.
That's a pretty disappointing fill. I can only assume that means there was absolutely no one else available on that date. I'm not opposed to playing an FCS opponent, but it should be one that moves the needle at least a little for our fans.
If true I also agree this is disappointing. I'd like to only play FCS schools from the state of NC. This was Spurrier's philosophy as well while in Columbia to attempt to only play FCS schools in SC to keep money in state. I like this approach.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:27 am

ASUGoose wrote:
appst89 wrote:
/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:It will be Savannah State. Just confirmed from a very credible source.
That's a pretty disappointing fill. I can only assume that means there was absolutely no one else available on that date. I'm not opposed to playing an FCS opponent, but it should be one that moves the needle at least a little for our fans.
If true I also agree this is disappointing. I'd like to only play FCS schools from the state of NC. This was Spurrier's philosophy as well while in Columbia to attempt to only play FCS schools in SC to keep money in state. I like this approach.
I like idea of playing A&T and Central as our go to fcs teams. Their fans travel well and are the most polite in all of football. Throw in SC State periodically and all is good. We should not pay big $$$ to a SoCon team.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:28 am

I'm not so concerned with the "who" in our 2017 schedule as the "when."

There was a time not many years ago when playing on a Wednesday or Thursday night made sense so that we could play in front of a television audience, attendance be damned. But now that practically all of our games are available on ESPN3, that thinking doesn't hold as much water. I understand the Sun Belt's dilemma. Television sets the agenda. But unfortunately that agenda impacts the league's marquee programs more severely than the others. My hope is the league's ADs and chancellors vote to limit to one the number of non-Saturday home games a Sun Belt team is required to play each season. That seems like a reasonable compromise.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:33 am

Another 2017 note, the UMass away game will be in Amherst. UMass isn't having another home game in Foxboro til 2018.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:54 am

AppGrad78 wrote:I'm not so concerned with the "who" in our 2017 schedule as the "when."

There was a time not many years ago when playing on a Wednesday or Thursday night made sense so that we could play in front of a television audience, attendance be damned. But now that practically all of our games are available on ESPN3, that thinking doesn't hold as much water. I understand the Sun Belt's dilemma. Television sets the agenda. But unfortunately that agenda impacts the league's marquee programs more severely than the others. My hope is the league's ADs and chancellors vote to limit to one the number of non-Saturday home games a Sun Belt team is required to play each season. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
Sounds great for us. Might not go over as well when it comes time for a new deal with ESPN and Benson is asking them to put the likes of Texas State-ULM in primetime.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by AppGrad78 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:21 am

EastHallApp wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:I'm not so concerned with the "who" in our 2017 schedule as the "when."

There was a time not many years ago when playing on a Wednesday or Thursday night made sense so that we could play in front of a television audience, attendance be damned. But now that practically all of our games are available on ESPN3, that thinking doesn't hold as much water. I understand the Sun Belt's dilemma. Television sets the agenda. But unfortunately that agenda impacts the league's marquee programs more severely than the others. My hope is the league's ADs and chancellors vote to limit to one the number of non-Saturday home games a Sun Belt team is required to play each season. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
Sounds great for us. Might not go over as well when it comes time for a new deal with ESPN and Benson is asking them to put the likes of Texas State-ULM in primetime.
OK. So let's continue to prostitute ourselves and watch attendance wither. Attendance is the lifeblood of G5 football, not television.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by AppinATL » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:23 am

Yosef84 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
WataugaMan wrote:
Goapps15 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
Interesting, yes. Also, an absolutely horrible idea.
Agreed with EastHallApp here. Why play any FCS team you could lose to? That's how Jim Grobe did it at Wake.
We're no Wake, we would win.
Iowa and Kansas State aren't Wake, either.

We might win that game, we might not. The point is, it's a (figurative) no-win situation. If we win, it does virtually nothing for us; if we lose, we make headlines for losing to an FCS.

That is the dilemma of playing GOOD FCS teams. They ARE dangerous and the risk/reward equation doesn't balance. That's precisely why Wake stopped playing us. It sucked when we were on the other side, but I think we actually respected that they at least admitted that was the deal. NDSU is absolutely no joke. I absolutely believe we are a better team but if we played them 10 times, I doubt we win all 10. We would win the majority but they would give us a run. I'm not saying that to diminish App in any way. I'm just acknowledging that they are a unique animal in FCS these days and deserve respect.
I agree 100%. Scheduling NDSU would be just plain stupid. Nothing to gain, big time egg on our face if we lose. Have people forgotten the feeling after the Liberty game? And they weren't even that good.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:44 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
ericsaid wrote:
As a member of FBS, App owes nothing to NCCU and shouldn't schedule them solely based on the fact that they were dropped for Miami.
Except that we actually do owe them a game based on the fact that they were dropped for Miami:

http://www.appstatesports.com/ViewArtic ... =210529089

"To make room for Miami on Appalachian State’s 2016 schedule, Appalachian and North Carolina Central mutually agreed to move their ‘16 matchup to a still-to-be-determined future date."
We owe an FCS team a game. A school that most any FBS team would welcome with open arms as they are not a whole lot better than Savannah State.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by Goapps15 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:57 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:
EastHallApp wrote:
AppGrad78 wrote:I'm not so concerned with the "who" in our 2017 schedule as the "when."

There was a time not many years ago when playing on a Wednesday or Thursday night made sense so that we could play in front of a television audience, attendance be damned. But now that practically all of our games are available on ESPN3, that thinking doesn't hold as much water. I understand the Sun Belt's dilemma. Television sets the agenda. But unfortunately that agenda impacts the league's marquee programs more severely than the others. My hope is the league's ADs and chancellors vote to limit to one the number of non-Saturday home games a Sun Belt team is required to play each season. That seems like a reasonable compromise.
Sounds great for us. Might not go over as well when it comes time for a new deal with ESPN and Benson is asking them to put the likes of Texas State-ULM in primetime.
OK. So let's continue to prostitute ourselves and watch attendance wither. Attendance is the lifeblood of G5 football, not television.
It is not our decision as you saw with the Georgia State game. It is the conferences call along with the TV partners. I would like to see the one home game limit but that will never happen. With Troy off of the schedule next year, GSU is our only appealing home conference game to the TV viewers.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by Stonewall » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Mid-week games should be limited in number,(2), and always follow both teams bye week(s).

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by MAD Doctor » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:24 pm

I'd like A&T or Liberty. I don't believe either would be celebrating on our field this time.

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Re: 2017 Schedule Speculation

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:46 pm

bh2oson wrote:Does the Sun Belt Championship game start next year? Any ideas on how that game will be scheduled? Possibly the best record hosting?
I don't like how home game goes to best record. Aren't there gonna be sun belt divisions now? Championship game should flip flop between divisions on a yearly basis. Giving home game to team with the best record could encourage teams to keep from challenging themselves on their out of conference schedules

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