Lamb performance so far

[WVAPPeer]

"By this point, he needs to be able to make a play when we need one. He has missed some open throws pretty badly and he's flirted with multiple interceptions because he's trying to be too fine with his passes. I like Lamb and I think he's a good quarterback, but this is year 3 as a starter. We need to see a little more "it" factor from him. A good quarterback will make his receivers better. It's usually not the other way around."

I am assuming all you guys have watched NFL games with quality NFL QBs??? -

[App91]

I watch games all day, yes what he said is true. Just as in life, when you have a bad day it is ok to talk about it. Also ok to talk about shortcomings, its how you get better. TL may have reached a ceiling, we will see. he will have ample opportunity to improve, the situation is what it is.

[WVAPPeer]

You will see all the same mistakes by an NFL QB - that is why the position is so hard to play and why the big boys get the big $$$ -

[Seattleapp]

You will see all the same mistakes by an NFL QB - that is why the position is so hard to play and why the big boys get the big $$$ -

I don't think anyone is being overly critical of lamb. I've said multiple times he's a good quarterback. But we need him to be better than he is currently. Do you disagree?

[bigdaddyg]

Lets see. He didn't make and critical mistakes against UT- hit Cox with a beautiful pass for the TD and probably stayed within the game plan. We beat ODU handily. He doesn't play defensive back so he could not help us on the big plays against Miami. He led a team to an 11-2 record last year. Until he plays both ways to prevent scores or has a horrible game with multiple PIC's I'm just sure why he needs criticism. Just my 2 pennies

[AppGrad78]

Here's what I'd like to see Saturday in our final tuneup before the Sun Belt season starts: I'd like to see J.P. Caruso when the outcome is still in doubt. I'm not suggesting we bench Taylor Lamb. But I'd like to see what Caruso adds to the offense. With Lamb, we know what we've got. He's an efficient game manager with limited running ability who's struggling to kick-start a woefully inexperienced wide receiver corps. I suspect Caruso is a tick behind Lamb as a passer. Otherwise Caruso would have the starting job. But Caruso appears to be a significant upgrade as a runner. And that's one area that hasn't gotten much notice on this message board -- our lack of run production from our quarterback. Our version of the read-option in 2016 is neither a read nor an option. Lamb simply gets the ball to Marcus Cox or Jalin Moore and hopes for the best. We rarely run a quarterback keeper/bootleg. ODU and Miami all but quit looking for it. Yes, a running quarterback will eventually become an injured quarterback. That's certainly the risk we take. But aren't we playing this just a bit too cautiously?

[Saint3333]

I can point out plays he's made (great touch throws to TE, first pass to Capel vs. ODU) and plays he missed (first two passes of Miami and the INT he through behind Letman).

I think to date this year it is a fair assessment that he hasn't played well against "bigger opponents". He isn't the type of QB that is likely going to get us over the hurdle of beating top 25 teams. That said he's still probably one of the best five QBs we've ever had.

I'm pulling for him and the WRs to grow a lot together in the next 5 days, we may need it if the dline can't get pressure on Akron's QB.

I don't see Satt pulling Lamb for a series or two of meaningful game time. Although I wouldn't mind it as a change of pace versus Akron.

[WVAPPeer]

You will see all the same mistakes by an NFL QB - that is why the position is so hard to play and why the big boys get the big $$$ -

I don't think anyone is being overly critical of lamb. I've said multiple times he's a good quarterback. But we need him to be better than he is currently. Do you disagree?

The one item I stated at the end of last year regarding what others were saying as Taylor's shortcoming was that the only major concern I had was he tended to turn one mistake into 2 or 3 - I have not seen that this season - He is what he has been, minus the mistake leading to more mistakes - Every one would like the QB of his/her team to always be their best, but it's not feasible...PLEASE everyone remember, he has played against 2 top 15 teams...

[Seattleapp]

I think the frustration is he seems to wilt against better opponents. Or perhaps that's where his limitations are more exposed. There will only be one armanti but I think about the plays he made against not only Michigan but the lsu game. The stars shine brightest in the toughest moments. And lamb completing 11 passes a game for 129 yards is the definition of conservative. Again, I'm not trying to rag on him, Just want him to dare to be great.

[Seattleapp]

I can point out plays he's made (great touch throws to TE, first pass to Capel vs. ODU) and plays he missed (first two passes of Miami and the INT he through behind Letman).

I think to date this year it is a fair assessment that he hasn't played well against "bigger opponents". He isn't the type of QB that is likely going to get us over the hurdle of beating top 25 teams. That said he's still probably one of the best five QBs we've ever had.

I'm pulling for him and the WRs to grow a lot together in the next 5 days, we may need it if the dline can't get pressure on Akron's QB.

I don't see Satt pulling Lamb for a series or two of meaningful game time. Although I wouldn't mind it as a change of pace versus Akron.

That's a fair assessment.

[eggers76]

I would like to see us do more to get our WR's open. I'm not a coach and I don't follow their routes every play, but they seem to be out there on their own trying to get open. On those bubble screens Miami kept running, they were getting some terrific blocks from the receiver not targeted.

[t4pizza]

Here's what I'd like to see Saturday in our final tuneup before the Sun Belt season starts: I'd like to see J.P. Caruso when the outcome is still in doubt. I'm not suggesting we bench Taylor Lamb. But I'd like to see what Caruso adds to the offense. With Lamb, we know what we've got. He's an efficient game manager with limited running ability who's struggling to kick-start a woefully inexperienced wide receiver corps. I suspect Caruso is a tick behind Lamb as a passer. Otherwise Caruso would have the starting job. But Caruso appears to be a significant upgrade as a runner. And that's one area that hasn't gotten much notice on this message board -- our lack of run production from our quarterback. Our version of the read-option in 2016 is neither a read nor an option. Lamb simply gets the ball to Marcus Cox or Jalin Moore and hopes for the best. We rarely run a quarterback keeper/bootleg. ODU and Miami all but quit looking for it. Yes, a running quarterback will eventually become an injured quarterback. That's certainly the risk we take. But aren't we playing this just a bit too cautiously?

The back up qb is always the most popular player on a team. I trust in the coaches that if Caruso could give us something that Lamb does not and help us win ball games that he would play. He does appear to be a better runner, but not so much so that its worth rotating him in for a series or so. Despite Lamb's weaknesses, and we all seem to recognize them, he is still our best option to win football games and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I get the fans want to see what the number 2 guy can do but I think the coaches already have a good enough idea and they clearly feel Lamb gives us the better chance to win. We only get a limited number of offensive series a game, I say stick with the guy that has the best chance to turn those opportunities into points.

[bigdaddyg]

Here's what I'd like to see Saturday in our final tuneup before the Sun Belt season starts: I'd like to see J.P. Caruso when the outcome is still in doubt. I'm not suggesting we bench Taylor Lamb. But I'd like to see what Caruso adds to the offense. With Lamb, we know what we've got. He's an efficient game manager with limited running ability who's struggling to kick-start a woefully inexperienced wide receiver corps. I suspect Caruso is a tick behind Lamb as a passer. Otherwise Caruso would have the starting job. But Caruso appears to be a significant upgrade as a runner. And that's one area that hasn't gotten much notice on this message board -- our lack of run production from our quarterback. Our version of the read-option in 2016 is neither a read nor an option. Lamb simply gets the ball to Marcus Cox or Jalin Moore and hopes for the best. We rarely run a quarterback keeper/bootleg. ODU and Miami all but quit looking for it. Yes, a running quarterback will eventually become an injured quarterback. That's certainly the risk we take. But aren't we playing this just a bit too cautiously?

The back up qb is always the most popular player on a team. I trust in the coaches that if Caruso could give us something that Lamb does not and help us win ball games that he would play. He does appear to be a better runner, but not so much so that its worth rotating him in for a series or so. Despite Lamb's weaknesses, and we all seem to recognize them, he is still our best option to win football games and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I get the fans want to see what the number 2 guy can do but I think the coaches already have a good enough idea and they clearly feel Lamb gives us the better chance to win. We only get a limited number of offensive series a game, I say stick with the guy that has the best chance to turn those opportunities into points.

Man I must really be missing something. Why on earth is there any talk about Lamb being replaced, rotated, benched, etc. He doesn't play defense. We make a freaking XP and we beat Tennessee. We beat ODU and that second half was boring as hell. Miami just whipped our tails. If Caruso can cover a P5 wide receiver we might have to give him a look! If TL absolutely stinks up the joint Saturday thennnnnn ... Until we genuinely and honestly think he can't get it done we should pull back a bit on the criticism

[Saint3333]

This is a message board and discussion of how players are playing is going to occur. If people are doing so is a reasonable fashion and acknowledging the good as well as the things that can be improved upon I don't see the issue in having a discussion.

I enjoy discussing App athletics with like-minded individuals (fans) and this is where I came to have those conversations.

[App91]

You will see all the same mistakes by an NFL QB - that is why the position is so hard to play and why the big boys get the big $$$ -

I don't think anyone is being overly critical of lamb. I've said multiple times he's a good quarterback. But we need him to be better than he is currently. Do you disagree?

The one item I stated at the end of last year regarding what others were saying as Taylor's shortcoming was that the only major concern I had was he tended to turn one mistake into 2 or 3 - I have not seen that this season - He is what he has been, minus the mistake leading to more mistakes - Every one would like the QB of his/her team to always be their best, but it's not feasible...PLEASE everyone remember, he has played against 2 top 15 teams...

WV, one mistake i keep seeing (and i said it prior to UM game) is i think he holds the ball too long. I do believe that there are more sacks than throwaways. 2nd and 10 is better than 2nd and 17 every time.

[WVAPPeer]

91 - no argument on that ---

[canes_mj]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is play calling by the coaches. It's been very predictable this season, and often it ends up putting the offense in 3rd and longs, where the D knows we're going to pass. He's had more success passing on 1st and 2nd downs when the D isn't expecting it. I agree he hasn't played well, and I've been critical of him, but I also don't think the coaching staff are putting him in the best position to succeed by their play calling. Mix it up

[boonetown1]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is play calling by the coaches. It's been very predictable this season, and often it ends up putting the offense in 3rd and longs, where the D knows we're going to pass. He's had more success passing on 1st and 2nd downs when the D isn't expecting it. I agree he hasn't played well, and I've been critical of him, but I also don't think the coaching staff are putting him in the best position to succeed by their play calling. Mix it up

Yes, if you watch the Miami playback you will hear the ESPN announcers say that Satt mentioned "we only really practice two plays on offense". I get there are different variations of that, but when you play tougher competition you need to game plan and throw some new things into the mix. I believe our coaches thought we could "out-athlete" or at least match up to a Miami team by running our typical plays. The Miami fans behind me were calling the plays before they were snapped. That said, if we continue to run the same stuff, Taylor DOES NEED TO PULL THE BALL MORE AND RUN. Watch the film, he has had many wide open holes because he hands to the RB most of the time. If he runs more, it keeps the defense guessing. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THIS OFFENSE WORKS. I would also personally like to see more quick out throws to our WR's and let them run/block...just my opinion on a way to get our athletes on the outside more involved which will also open up the middle of the field for TE's and deep passes.

All of this said, I do blame the coaches for not have a better game plan for Miami which did not give our players the best opportunity to win. Also, Woody needs to prove himself against hurry-up offenses.

[bigdaddyg]

Agree with the play calling comments. Jet sweeps with our fast guys, quick hitters to receivers so that they can make plays in space, TL keep the ball some and run. Is it a case of guys on the field not able to process plays quickly. If we are going to get to the line and burn 20 seconds looking to the sideline and then moving around just huddle up and bring the plays in. We used to be able to move fast and take it down the field in older times with what were deemed to be lesser athletes

[boonetown1]

Agree with the play calling comments. Jet sweeps with our fast guys, quick hitters to receivers so that they can make plays in space, TL keep the ball some and run. Is it a case of guys on the field not able to process plays quickly. If we are going to get to the line and burn 20 seconds looking to the sideline and then moving around just huddle up and bring the plays in. We used to be able to move fast and take it down the field in older times with what were deemed to be lesser athletes

I think the speed could be up, but it's probably a little more about confidence. I know these two athletes are no where like each other, but let's look at our Armani Edwards and Taylor lamb. Edwards was probably not as football smart as lamb, but he probably exceeded Lamb in confidence and executing plays. Lamb seems to be a good director of the offense but lacks that I can do anything mentality. Just my opinion.