Shawn Elliot as next Coach?

[appgrad]

Elliot is an Oline coach and a damn good one at that. But Satterfield has been an OC at bothe the FCS and FBS level. To me SS is more qualified and experienced. But I feel Elliott is the better leader. Toss up...cant go wrong either way IMO.

I will say one thing about this - Cobb will know for sure which guy was the "lead dog" assistant when we were rolling to 3 National Titles. I always felt like it was a triumvirate of Elliott, Sat, and Galloway, but I wasn't there. While it's not unheard of for an OL Coach to get an HC job, it isn't typical...and at our level, I would just prefer we hire the best candidate.

Could do much worse than an alum who has spent the last 3 years under one of the best college coaches of the modern era...and since I think one of our biggest problems is a young, underdeveloped, OL, he might be what we need.

[JCline0429]

Wouldn't that mean a pay cut for Shawn? Seems like a demotion. I haven't been on the USC boards, but Shawn gets a lot of love from the SEC announcers and I think the fans love his energy. Spurrier should be ready to move on or retire soon. Maybe Shawn's in line for the USC job.

Is there's a possibility Elliot knew something about the change in the guard at the last minute as one poster said he showed up Saturday dressed in Black and Gold. Would he be burning bridges with his present employer by doing so? Wouldn't he be out recruiting for them? Not putting out a conspiracy theory, just curious about the implications. If the money is right and the opportunity to be a head coach at a likely FBS school, I wouldn't be surprised if he's the new head man.

[Watauga72]

Prince took over a K State program that was actually in good shape due to Bill Snyder. He promptly ran it into the ground, setting up Snyder's return from retirement. Maybe he learned from the experience and can succeed, but doubt he'll get a chance here.

[Kgfish]

Do not be naive enough to think a national search will be conducted. There is no question Elliot is Cobb's choice. Rumors have been circulating for WEEKS Cobb had targeted Elliot as Coach Moore's replacement. Cobb knew he was going to ax Coach Moore after the final game of the season. It only stands to reason he had a plan in place for his replacement. Elliot may have been in Boone "supporting" his school saturday, but sitting in Cobb's box? Come on people time to put 2 and 2 together. Cobb has gone so far as to indicate Satterfield is a part of the plan. As hard as these guys try to keep things under wraps, they have to confide in certain people. The problem is some of those people aren't very good at keeping their mouths shut. Too many people in the loop to keep things under wraps. It is fairly common knowledge in the coaching ranks Cobb has already made a play for his man before the vacancy is ever announced.

Cobb already manufactured one "national search" for ASU. An insider deal put into motion long before Buzz ever left campus, gave us Jason Capel.

As an ASU alumnus it sickens me to know this incredibly important decision is being treated with such disrespect for candidates that are immensely more qualified for the job. Just ask Matt Mahnon and the other candidates who contacted ASU about the basketball vanancy how Charlie Cobb conducts national coaching searches.

As long as this university allows this practice to continue this athletic department will NEVER achieve the level of credibility and respect it deserves. It appears Cobb certainly enjoys shoving his considerable weight around on these big decisions.

[unknown]

Do not be naive enough to think a national search will be conducted. There is no question Elliot is Cobb's choice. Rumors have been circulating for WEEKS Cobb had targeted Elliot as Coach Moore's replacement. Cobb knew he was going to ax Coach Moore after the final game of the season. It only stands to reason he had a plan in place for his replacement. Elliot may have been in Boone "supporting" his school saturday, but sitting in Cobb's box? Come on people time to put 2 and 2 together. Cobb has gone so far as to indicate Satterfield is a part of the plan. As hard as these guys try to keep things under wraps, they have to confide in certain people. The problem is some of those people aren't very good at keeping their mouths shut. Too many people in the loop to keep things under wraps. It is fairly common knowledge in the coaching ranks Cobb has already made a play for his man before the vacancy is ever announced.

Cobb already manufactured one "national search" for ASU. An insider deal put into motion long before Buzz ever left campus, gave us Jason Capel.

As an ASU alumnus it sickens me to know this incredibly important decision is being treated with such disrespect for candidates that are immensely more qualified for the job. Just ask Matt Mahnon and the other candidates who contacted ASU about the basketball vanancy how Charlie Cobb conducts national coaching searches.

As long as this university allows this practice to continue this athletic department will NEVER achieve the level of credibility and respect it deserves. It appears Cobb certainly enjoys shoving his considerable weight around on these big decisions.

agenda alert

[gustus83]

never......thats a looong time

[PBR1893-BEER-HAT-GUY]

"agenda alert"
pot stirrer........

[unknown]

"agenda alert"
pot stirrer........

seems pretty obvious to me.,,
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[appgrad]

I know we're saying Elliot wasn't a coordinator...but by all reports, he was part of the OC-by-committee here...just as much as SS was AND is the Run Game Coordinator at SC. Isn't full control, but I don't believe Satterfield had full control until he returned here.

[appbio91]

It's funny to hear these rumors pop up since Elliot was at the game Saturday clad in Black and Gold.

He could be either an OC or DC. It wouldn't be surprising to see him do either. If Satterfield is the coach, then he is very much in play since they're former teammates.

Shawn is not coming back to be anything other than HC. Not a chance

He's not coming back at all, he makes more than Cobb.

http://www.gogamecocks.com/2012/02/10/2 ... aises.html

$300K. I would have guessed more. I read somewhere (can't remember where and not sure if this is accurate) that Coach's base salary is $230K, so logic would suggest that the HC salary at ASU would be more than $300K after an FBS move.

Where are we getting the money from? We pay crap now. I don't think they cartel is being busted and we get any windfall of tv/media dollars. The country club ain't sharing. So get used to being the poor bastards of college football.

That's where you are wrong. As soon as we put FBS in front of our names we will start getting better players, better coaches, better fans and lots and lots of money.

We are going to start taking recruits from ACC, SEC, Big East and CUSA teams probably this year just because everyone in the country knows we are making the move. Hell, all we are going to have to do is open the door and see who's standing there.

[AppinATL]

I know we're saying Elliot wasn't a coordinator...but by all reports, he was part of the OC-by-committee here...just as much as SS was AND is the Run Game Coordinator at SC. Isn't full control, but I don't believe Satterfield had full control until he returned here.

But let's be fair. The committee Elliott was a part of won us 3 national championships and cannot be compared to our most recent committee, which sucked.

[appgrad]

Right - point was that we may be over-estimating SS's qualifications in comparison to Elliot's. Both have been successful in moving on.

[asu1990]

Satterfield? Isn't that why he came back?

[AppStateNation]

Didn't see anyone else post this but according to Shawn Elliot's Twitter he wasn't interviewing for the job this past weekend.
http://www.appstatenation.com/2012/12/0 ... -position/

[appgrad]

Didn't see anyone else post this but according to Shawn Elliot's Twitter he wasn't interviewing for the job this past weekend.
http://www.appstatenation.com/2012/12/0 ... -position/

Doesn't mean he won't. HR guidelines probably say he can't until vacancy is posted. It's like when a coach says he hasn't talked to X school about a job. He may not gave, but his agent has...or the coach HAS spoken to a private search firm working for the school.

[JCline0429]

Didn't see anyone else post this but according to Shawn Elliot's Twitter he wasn't interviewing for the job this past weekend.
http://www.appstatenation.com/2012/12/0 ... -position/

It is unethical to interview for a job that hasn't been created or announced to be vacant.

[Rekdiver]

Never happen.

[GlassOnion]

It is unethical to interview for a job that hasn't been created or announced to be vacant.

Know what else is unethical? Using wikipedia, and every flimsy insinuation one after another, no matter how ludicrous trying to hang sommething on Charlie Cobb.

[Black Saturday]

APPBIO says

That's where you are wrong. As soon as we put FBS in front of our names we will start getting better players, better coaches, better fans and lots and lots of money.

We are going to start taking recruits from ACC, SEC, Big East and CUSA teams probably this year just because everyone in the country knows we are making the move. Hell, all we are going to have to do is open the door and see who's standing there. [/quote]

Black Saturday says-

I'm not wrong, time will show that

I hope you are being facetious, if not, you have really been smoking Yosef's pipe....I'm all about moving up and bettering things...but we aren't entitled to a thing because we love APP STATE...

Question: If and when we move up, where does all the extra money to support the infrastructure get generated from to make things more Disney than Tweetsie???

Where are the newer and better fans coming from???

The money entitlement table is slanted way more than Vegas against schools like APP and Marshall and Troy St. etc., by the cartel of the the BCS/Networks/Media with the control of the printing press. Hence, all the realignment and school poaching. There are so many dollars and if you ain't a member of their country club, too bad.

Maybe somebody will get Obama involved since he ran on the platform of CHANGE and enjoys the theme of redistribution of wealth. I think he's the right man to help out the poor schools like APP, etc.

What does APP STATE have to offer a bigger/better conference?

This article sheds some light on what where APP stands:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/college-f ... 22604.html

[appbio91]

APPBIO says

That's where you are wrong. As soon as we put FBS in front of our names we will start getting better players, better coaches, better fans and lots and lots of money.

We are going to start taking recruits from ACC, SEC, Big East and CUSA teams probably this year just because everyone in the country knows we are making the move. Hell, all we are going to have to do is open the door and see who's standing there.

Black Saturday says-

I'm not wrong, time will show that

I hope you are being facetious, if not, you have really been smoking Yosef's pipe....I'm all about moving up and bettering things...but we aren't entitled to a thing because we love APP STATE...

Question: If and when we move up, where does all the extra money to support the infrastructure get generated from to make things more Disney than Tweetsie???

Where are the newer and better fans coming from???

The money entitlement table is slanted way more than Vegas against schools like APP and Marshall and Troy St. etc., by the cartel of the the BCS/Networks/Media with the control of the printing press. Hence, all the realignment and school poaching. There are so many dollars and if you ain't a member of their country club, too bad.

Maybe somebody will get Obama involved since he ran on the platform of CHANGE and enjoys the theme of redistribution of wealth. I think he's the right man to help out the poor schools like APP, etc.

What does APP STATE have to offer a bigger/better conference?

This article sheds some light on what where APP stands:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/college-f ... y-pressure
-win-225922604.html[/quote]
That was my attempt at sarcastic humor. Basically you hit the nail on the head IMO. Nothing really changes for us just because we move up. Except of course conference and opponent. We will get the same recruits we get now just have more scholarships that we will have difficulty funding.