It is what it is. I’m not saying that I disagree with you, but it shows how tight the budget is stretched. Add in that we likely aren’t going to sell all of our allotment of tickets, which the school has to absorb that loss.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:57 amThis is wild to me… Makes zero sense to me.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:53 amAnother thing that factors in to this is that the players are responsible for getting to Birmingham. If he is planning to leave, and I don’t know that to be true, why incur the expense to fly from Iowa to Birmingham on your dime.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
Who’s going to Birmingham?
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
I get that you have to protect yourself and the team, and I’m not saying this about Kohl specifically, but at some point a dawg is going to make a play. If you recall, back in Joey’s first game, we needed 14 and Joey trucked the safety to get 13. That act of toughness resonates with the rest of the team.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:59 amThe only item that bothered me was the 4th and 1. We needed the yard and he seemed to brace to not take the hit versus laying out to get the first down. Just my opinion on viewing the play. I have zero problem with a QB sliding to not take a hit on normal down/distance idea. They are QB 1 and we need them in the game. I am not of the mentality that our "QBs do not slide" if running is not their strength. If a QB is built like the Marsha QB.and they embrace contract, have at it. With that said, Marsha QB left game against us due hits taken.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
Maybe I would have different mentality if we were a Power school and had a 4/5 star backup.
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And as stated, JJ should have toughed it up for the first down on the 4th and 1.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:13 amI get that you have to protect yourself and the team, and I’m not saying this about Kohl specifically, but at some point a dawg is going to make a play. If you recall, back in Joey’s first game, we needed 14 and Joey trucked the safety to get 13. That act of toughness resonates with the rest of the team.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:59 amThe only item that bothered me was the 4th and 1. We needed the yard and he seemed to brace to not take the hit versus laying out to get the first down. Just my opinion on viewing the play. I have zero problem with a QB sliding to not take a hit on normal down/distance idea. They are QB 1 and we need them in the game. I am not of the mentality that our "QBs do not slide" if running is not their strength. If a QB is built like the Marsha QB.and they embrace contract, have at it. With that said, Marsha QB left game against us due hits taken.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
Maybe I would have different mentality if we were a Power school and had a 4/5 star backup.
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Where did you hear that?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:53 amAnother thing that factors in to this is that the players are responsible for getting to Birmingham. If he is planning to leave, and I don’t know that to be true, why incur the expense to fly from Iowa to Birmingham on your dime.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
Sources that understand the situation.mike87 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:20 amWhere did you hear that?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:53 amAnother thing that factors in to this is that the players are responsible for getting to Birmingham. If he is planning to leave, and I don’t know that to be true, why incur the expense to fly from Iowa to Birmingham on your dime.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
If players go home for the holidays, does the school pay for them to come back if fall break, spring break, Christmas break? I assume that the normal travel on the chartered bus will be in Boone to take players down to bowl game. Maybe not... I assume there would the typical travel available from the football facility.mike87 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:20 amWhere did you hear that?AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:53 amAnother thing that factors in to this is that the players are responsible for getting to Birmingham. If he is planning to leave, and I don’t know that to be true, why incur the expense to fly from Iowa to Birmingham on your dime.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
It made sense for the players to make their own arrangements to get to Birmingham. Unlike previous bowls played before Christmas, this time players will be scattered across the country spending the holidays with their families. It would have been extremely inconvenient for them to travel back to Boone, bus to Charlotte (or wherever) and then fly to Birmingham. For most, Birmingham is a comparatively shorter drive.
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This feels like a half story.
They are likely extending flexibility to the players to arrange for travel themselves due to the holiday and set a time to "check-in" of 12/27 in Birmingham while offering mass transportation to others (may be a small number given the circumstances) driving back to Boone the morning of 12/27.
They are likely extending flexibility to the players to arrange for travel themselves due to the holiday and set a time to "check-in" of 12/27 in Birmingham while offering mass transportation to others (may be a small number given the circumstances) driving back to Boone the morning of 12/27.
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You might be right but I thought they were reporting earlier than the 27th.Saint3333 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 11:19 amThis feels like a half story.
They are likely extending flexibility to the players to arrange for travel themselves due to the holiday and set a time to "check-in" of 12/27 in Birmingham while offering mass transportation to others (may be a small number given the circumstances) driving back to Boone the morning of 12/27.
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The 27th is a placeholder in the post above, the point being the staff didn't say find your way to Birmingham, we'll meet you there.
The initial post hinting at such didn't provide appropriate context and led to a misunderstanding.
The initial post hinting at such didn't provide appropriate context and led to a misunderstanding.
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
Players are home for Holiday and meeting in Birmingham. This is not an uncommon practice for schools. App will pay mileage/airfare to get players to bowl. It's not coming out of their pocket.
App State is paying. Just paying each individual rather than chartering a flight & busses.
App State is paying. Just paying each individual rather than chartering a flight & busses.
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
I was under the impression that there is no chartered flight to Birmingham.
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Exactly. It’s really a non-issue and a way to accommodate family and football. 94 is doing his best to stir the pot from his “sources” (who is more than likely just David Ware).DoesntEvenGoHere wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:26 pmPlayers are home for Holiday and meeting in Birmingham. This is not an uncommon practice for schools. App will pay mileage/airfare to get players to bowl. It's not coming out of their pocket.
App State is paying. Just paying each individual rather than chartering a flight & busses.
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I agree doing whatever it takes to get the first. Toughness and a willingness to compete are two different things.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:17 amAnd as stated, JJ should have toughed it up for the first down on the 4th and 1.AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 10:13 amI get that you have to protect yourself and the team, and I’m not saying this about Kohl specifically, but at some point a dawg is going to make a play. If you recall, back in Joey’s first game, we needed 14 and Joey trucked the safety to get 13. That act of toughness resonates with the rest of the team.BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:59 amThe only item that bothered me was the 4th and 1. We needed the yard and he seemed to brace to not take the hit versus laying out to get the first down. Just my opinion on viewing the play. I have zero problem with a QB sliding to not take a hit on normal down/distance idea. They are QB 1 and we need them in the game. I am not of the mentality that our "QBs do not slide" if running is not their strength. If a QB is built like the Marsha QB.and they embrace contract, have at it. With that said, Marsha QB left game against us due hits taken.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 am
Agree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
Maybe I would have different mentality if we were a Power school and had a 4/5 star backup.
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Re: Who’s going to Birmingham?
You have no idea who I talk too. Happy Holidays.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:45 pmExactly. It’s really a non-issue and a way to accommodate family and football. 94 is doing his best to stir the pot from his “sources” (who is more than likely just David Ware).DoesntEvenGoHere wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:26 pmPlayers are home for Holiday and meeting in Birmingham. This is not an uncommon practice for schools. App will pay mileage/airfare to get players to bowl. It's not coming out of their pocket.
App State is paying. Just paying each individual rather than chartering a flight & busses.
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AppSt94 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 2:35 pmYou have no idea who I talk too. Happy Holidays.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:45 pmExactly. It’s really a non-issue and a way to accommodate family and football. 94 is doing his best to stir the pot from his “sources” (who is more than likely just David Ware).DoesntEvenGoHere wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 1:26 pmPlayers are home for Holiday and meeting in Birmingham. This is not an uncommon practice for schools. App will pay mileage/airfare to get players to bowl. It's not coming out of their pocket.
App State is paying. Just paying each individual rather than chartering a flight & busses.
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In retrospect, the kid sent a pretty clear message on that play:BambooRdApp wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:59 amThe only item that bothered me was the 4th and 1. We needed the yard and he seemed to brace to not take the hit versus laying out to get the first down. Just my opinion on viewing the play. I have zero problem with a QB sliding to not take a hit on normal down/distance idea. They are QB 1 and we need them in the game. I am not of the mentality that our "QBs do not slide" if running is not their strength. If a QB is built like the Marsha QB.and they embrace contract, have at it. With that said, Marsha QB left game against us due hits taken.WASU 93 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:44 amHe competed with Swann for the position.appstate24 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 22, 2025 7:43 amAgree. Not sure that helps ease some of the doubts about his level of competitiveness. Hopefully those doubts are wrong, but ducking a hit and diving short of the 1st down earlier in the season Along with this has definitely raised some questions about his “fire.”
Would love to see him trot out there on the 29th, ball out and put those doubts to rest. Leading us to a win could help him in the portal and put some real shine on his name with App Nation before he leaves.
He slid, after he took a hit on a previous scramble. We that his choice or was he coached to do that?
I’d love to see him out there, but in today’s portal world, I don’t know that not playing speaks to his character or the advice he is getting from his “camp”
Maybe I would have different mentality if we were a Power school and had a 4/5 star backup.
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