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TX St discussion

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by WASU 93 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:41 pm

It’s not all the defense. (D gave up 6 points in the second half and both of those were because they were desperately trying to get a pick 6)

You win games in the trenches and we aren’t winning the line of scrimmage. RB’s go for less than 70 yards in back to back conference games. D~Line is not making plays in the backfield.

Offensive play~calling is bad. We still run the ball after every long pass play (until we hit desperation time). Still no jet sweep. Fades to WR in the red zone have disappeared (and Chase throws a pretty fade). We lose 40 seconds trying to pop a running play from the 4 yard line on 1st down in the 4th Q

Special Teams are average and don’t provide a spark.

Glad we have Chase
Stroman has a great future
Might be time to burn the shirt on Roberts, if the O~Line can step up

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by Mjohn1988 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:41 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:27 pm
How in the HELL did we beat A&M?
A&M’s QB was awful.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:44 pm

where do we go from here?
brice gone, no chance peoples comes back. noel? defense?

FWIW, we are 3-5 in our last 8 games…and our slate is about to get tough.
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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:44 pm

Mjohn1988 wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:41 pm
bigdaddyg wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:27 pm
How in the HELL did we beat A&M?
A&M’s QB was awful.
He’s playing pretty good v bama right now lol

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by WASU 93 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:47 pm

Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:41 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:22 pm
Seattleapp wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:15 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:14 pm
I did it. I turned it off. First time ever. Even after i promised to an hour ago. The Noel flop shut it down. This team is bad without Cam to fuel the PA. I can't even blame Chase, seems like he was doing what he could in desperation.
Noel is a different player now
Yeah, seems so. Lacks that fire he used to have. And what's the deal with Marshall? He just rarely makes any plays to justify him being in the rotation.
I woulda rather seen castle to be honest
Is It Marshall or is it play calling/lack of blocking? Seems like all his runs are fake the jet sweep (why fake it, if you never run it?) Marshall up the middle.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by ViewCrew87 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:50 pm

Penalties and turnovers! Accountability on a “player led” team coach!

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:51 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:41 pm
It’s not all the defense. (D gave up 6 points in the second half and both of those were because they were desperately trying to get a pick 6)

You win games in the trenches and we aren’t winning the line of scrimmage. RB’s go for less than 70 yards in back to back conference games. D~Line is not making plays in the backfield.

Offensive play~calling is bad. We still run the ball after every long pass play (until we hit desperation time). Still no jet sweep. Fades to WR in the red zone have disappeared (and Chase throws a pretty fade). We lose 40 seconds trying to pop a running play from the 4 yard line on 1st down in the 4th Q

Special Teams are average and don’t provide a spark.

Glad we have Chase
Stroman has a great future
Might be time to burn the shirt on Roberts, if the O~Line can step up
Great point on play calling. In the first couple of games we ran some great, cool plays with misdirection, jet sweeps and even that hurry up play under center. And we utilized our tight ends all game- not just at the end. We went from having what seemed like a deep and talented stable of backs to a limited group who barely gets 50 YPG now. We don't put fast guys in space with the ball anymore. I don't really put a lot on Chase tonight as he did his best despite the awful PIC6.

I think a lot of us really overestimated the level of talent we had this year. We might have a good bit on the bench and I simply don't get saving it! Play the best and go for wins!

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by asu1978 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:58 pm

I love my Apps!!!! Its been 44 years since I graduated and we've been up and down soooo many times.Hormones rule at their age.Peoples being out shows how much we need him.The coaches and players bleed black and gold.I do too!

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by app97 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:59 pm

Watching coastal-ULM game now. The Warhawks defense tackles significantly better than our d right now.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by 311neers » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:07 pm

app97 wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 9:59 pm
Watching coastal-ULM game now. The Warhawks defense tackles significantly better than our d right now.
Don’t even need to tune in to know who’s going to win that game. Good teams close games against inferior opponents out.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:12 pm

Makes the JMU loss hurt worse

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Oct 08, 2022 10:14 pm

Wow we beat A&M, had Game Day in Boone (seems like a long time ago) and needed a miracle to not be 2-4. Wow

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by KingStLocal » Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:57 am

1. If our stacked RB room and the 4 guys ahead are hurt or don’t want to fight for every yard anymore, put the Freshman out there. We need an energy/motivation change in our running game. <105 yds total over 2 conference games is a losing gameplan.

2. I just want to be able to make subpar opposing QBs look subpar again, and not make every opposing QB look like prime Johnny Unitas. Secondary scheme and missed coverage assignments galore - same as JMU (and UNC and Troy)

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by Bootsy » Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:17 am

For all the carping here about the Mothership not featuring App's games on their networks...
days like yesterday sort of make you glad they don't.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by ApexASU » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:09 am

Bootsy wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:17 am
For all the carping here about the Mothership not featuring App's games on their networks...
days like yesterday sort of make you glad they don't.
And every time someone starts the convo about respect and ranking. Got to earn it first. Just play the game.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by Yosef1986 » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:49 am

About talent on the bench - in our history - best players always play and we have not hesitated to sit a Jr/Sr athlete if he is being outplayed by a freshman. If we have better talent on the bench - why're they not playing?? See AE and TL as 2 examples in our past. Just a thought.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:55 am

ApexASU wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:09 am
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:17 am
For all the carping here about the Mothership not featuring App's games on their networks...
days like yesterday sort of make you glad they don't.
And every time someone starts the convo about respect and ranking. Got to earn it first. Just play the game.
Exactly. There are some words and phrases associated with sports teams that I get sick of hearing. Number one is respect. Being respected is all one sided. Either someone doesn't "feel respected " or feels that they should "get more respect". If a team or player says or feels this way who exactly is supposed to give said respect and how exactly? It's strange.

The other is "culture ". I hear folks describe a team or program as a "culture of winning ". Nobody really has a "culture" of losing. They just have either a lack of resources or poor management/player development. I can't imagine one athletic program who genuinely wants to lose. People want to label App with a particular culture that is apparently on the decline.

I've said many times that other schools actually recruit, practice and compete to win just like we do. We offer up a whole bunch of opinions on this board but ultimately we need to trust our AD and coaches to put the best possible teams on the field or court. Losing sucks big time.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by BeauFoster » Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:06 am

bigdaddyg wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:55 am
ApexASU wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:09 am
Bootsy wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:17 am
For all the carping here about the Mothership not featuring App's games on their networks...
days like yesterday sort of make you glad they don't.
And every time someone starts the convo about respect and ranking. Got to earn it first. Just play the game.
Exactly. There are some words and phrases associated with sports teams that I get sick of hearing. Number one is respect. Being respected is all one sided. Either someone doesn't "feel respected " or feels that they should "get more respect". If a team or player says or feels this way who exactly is supposed to give said respect and how exactly? It's strange.

The other is "culture ". I hear folks describe a team or program as a "culture of winning ". Nobody really has a "culture" of losing. They just have either a lack of resources or poor management/player development. I can't imagine one athletic program who genuinely wants to lose. People want to label App with a particular culture that is apparently on the decline.

I've said many times that other schools actually recruit, practice and compete to win just like we do. We offer up a whole bunch of opinions on this board but ultimately we need to trust our AD and coaches to put the best possible teams on the field or court. Losing sucks big time.
I don’t know, Charlotte has a pretty solid culture of losing :D
Give 'em hell!

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by Yosef1986 » Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:18 am

We can talk about culture and winning - I look at the product on the field. It is one thing to play our best and get beat - tip your hat to the other team and move on - it happens. However, when App looks lost, not prepared and not into the game etc.... it makes the loss more difficult. The cameras even showed players arguing on the sidelines. That is uncommon for App - I do not pretend to have the answers - just seems something is not clicking at this time. Hopefully we can correct.

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Re: TX St discussion

Unread post by AppStateNews » Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:55 am

Yosef1986 wrote:
Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:49 am
About talent on the bench - in our history - best players always play and we have not hesitated to sit a Jr/Sr athlete if he is being outplayed by a freshman. If we have better talent on the bench - why're they not playing?? See AE and TL as 2 examples in our past. Just a thought.
The quick answer is because we have to balance the classes or we will always be thin in a position. To do that, redshirts are required.

Drink really screwed us with the class balance because he knew he wasn't going to be here long so he didn't care.
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