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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:32 pm

Castle to Dook


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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:33 pm

I had high hopes for him but alas never showed what we thought he really had. Enjoy Durham. ✌️

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:57 pm

Good Grief. Anywhere but Dook! AC is dead to me...just kidding. Good Luck !!
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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:02 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 1:57 pm
Good Grief. Anywhere but Dook! AC is dead to me...just kidding. Good Luck !!
Yeah only worse would have been GS or Furman.

He was in my class this past semester but we didn't meet online at all, so didn't talk.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by '75App » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:17 pm

Must be a Methodist!

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by kornegaylw » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:20 pm

Castle to Duke with 1 year of eligibility left is what the transfer portal should be about. He gave his all for App, got a degree and as a Senior he now can go take his talents to the P4 and get, I assume an MBA, at Duke.

Good for him

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:29 pm

biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:20 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 pm
As the person who feel for the reel of Makai saying he's going to play again while wearing App State gear, oh well.

Honestly, some of y'all are the worst with constant doomerism across multiple threads. It's tiring. You constant feed negativity into your lives and it shows. I'm prone to negativity at times, but I can't live being that way all the time. I say my piece and move along.
In the recent past there are transfers coming in to balance out the losses. Right now it is looking like the biggest rebuilding year ever. Combined with watching others play in the bowls and basketball not doing well isn't going to make for many happy people.
I’d argue we have been rebuilding since the ‘22 recruiting class… none of us were willing to admit it though… Dec ‘21 we signed just 14 high school kids. Brought 2 portal transfers in for spring ball (Kaeden/Marshall) then another 7 over the summer from the portal (9 in total). Looking back, To me that was the canary in the coal mine of a rebuild and trying mask a poor pipeline of recruits.

(Juniors/Seniors in ‘22 season were ‘18/‘19 recruits…HC changes)

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by biggie » Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:31 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:29 pm
biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:20 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 pm
As the person who feel for the reel of Makai saying he's going to play again while wearing App State gear, oh well.

Honestly, some of y'all are the worst with constant doomerism across multiple threads. It's tiring. You constant feed negativity into your lives and it shows. I'm prone to negativity at times, but I can't live being that way all the time. I say my piece and move along.
In the recent past there are transfers coming in to balance out the losses. Right now it is looking like the biggest rebuilding year ever. Combined with watching others play in the bowls and basketball not doing well isn't going to make for many happy people.
I’d argue we have been rebuilding since the ‘22 recruiting class… none of us were willing to admit it though… Dec ‘21 we signed just 14 high school kids. Brought 2 portal transfers in for spring ball (Kaeden/Marshall) then another 7 over the summer from the portal (9 in total). Looking back, To me that was the canary in the coal mine of a rebuild and trying mask a poor pipeline of recruits.

(Juniors/Seniors in ‘22 season were ‘18/‘19 recruits…HC changes)
Right now this seems worse.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:01 pm

And not having a full coaching staff while everyone leaves and the better players in the portal are being picked up is gonna make it difficult to rebuild this year.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppDawg » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:16 pm

biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:31 pm
AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:29 pm
biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:20 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 pm
As the person who feel for the reel of Makai saying he's going to play again while wearing App State gear, oh well.

Honestly, some of y'all are the worst with constant doomerism across multiple threads. It's tiring. You constant feed negativity into your lives and it shows. I'm prone to negativity at times, but I can't live being that way all the time. I say my piece and move along.
In the recent past there are transfers coming in to balance out the losses. Right now it is looking like the biggest rebuilding year ever. Combined with watching others play in the bowls and basketball not doing well isn't going to make for many happy people.
I’d argue we have been rebuilding since the ‘22 recruiting class… none of us were willing to admit it though… Dec ‘21 we signed just 14 high school kids. Brought 2 portal transfers in for spring ball (Kaeden/Marshall) then another 7 over the summer from the portal (9 in total). Looking back, To me that was the canary in the coal mine of a rebuild and trying mask a poor pipeline of recruits.

(Juniors/Seniors in ‘22 season were ‘18/‘19 recruits…HC changes)
Right now this seems worse.
Agree the bubble is moving through the program and now coming home to roost which is painful to watch. That ‘22 class should be our RS Jrs & Seniors now. But when starting from 14 we left ourselves with a high risk for a bare cupboard.

What made Satt’s approach so great, he refused to sacrifice a class by bringing in a multitude of transfers - keeping HS signees consistently b/w 18 and 22. Instead he opted to play younger guys… even if it meant burning a redshirt. It fostered a program that was able to reload.

A silver lining perhaps… we haven’t had much attrition from our ‘23 and ‘24 classes. 15 and 18 HS signees, respectively… albeit the class just signed is currently at just 9, maybe with right approach we can get out of this hole sooner rather than later.

Yes, the portal is “new” but in my opinion we should still strive for HS classes approaching 22 in size.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BambooRdApp » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:19 pm

Satt did not have to deal with NIL. Completely different playing field...
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Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:20 pm

BambooRdApp wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:19 pm
Satt did not have to deal with NIL. Completely different playing field...
If you believe what all the old SEC coaches and players are saying..... They was NIL just wasn't allowed. Anyways....

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:25 pm

AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:16 pm
biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:31 pm
AppDawg wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 2:29 pm
biggie wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:20 pm
T-Dog wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 12:18 pm
As the person who feel for the reel of Makai saying he's going to play again while wearing App State gear, oh well.

Honestly, some of y'all are the worst with constant doomerism across multiple threads. It's tiring. You constant feed negativity into your lives and it shows. I'm prone to negativity at times, but I can't live being that way all the time. I say my piece and move along.
In the recent past there are transfers coming in to balance out the losses. Right now it is looking like the biggest rebuilding year ever. Combined with watching others play in the bowls and basketball not doing well isn't going to make for many happy people.
I’d argue we have been rebuilding since the ‘22 recruiting class… none of us were willing to admit it though… Dec ‘21 we signed just 14 high school kids. Brought 2 portal transfers in for spring ball (Kaeden/Marshall) then another 7 over the summer from the portal (9 in total). Looking back, To me that was the canary in the coal mine of a rebuild and trying mask a poor pipeline of recruits.

(Juniors/Seniors in ‘22 season were ‘18/‘19 recruits…HC changes)
Right now this seems worse.
Agree the bubble is moving through the program and now coming home to roost which is painful to watch. That ‘22 class should be our RS Jrs & Seniors now. But when starting from 14 we left ourselves with a high risk for a bare cupboard.

What made Satt’s approach so great, he refused to sacrifice a class by bringing in a multitude of transfers - keeping HS signees consistently b/w 18 and 22. Instead he opted to play younger guys… even if it meant burning a redshirt. It fostered a program that was able to reload.

A silver lining perhaps… we haven’t had much attrition from our ‘23 and ‘24 classes. 15 and 18 HS signees, respectively… albeit the class just signed is currently at just 9, maybe with right approach we can get out of this hole sooner rather than later.

Yes, the portal is “new” but in my opinion we should still strive for HS classes approaching 22 in size.
Transfers back then had to sit a year.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by MountainMan2020 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:37 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
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Yep everyone is making money that is involved, so it won't change.
Nor should it change, because if a coach can leave at any time the players should be able to leave as well.
The folly in that thinking is the assumption $$$ will continue to flow in via ticket sales/donations.

We have seen this movie before with NASCAR in the early 2000’s… now where are they? Struggling for viewership and removing 10’s of thousands of stands from every track.
What NASCAR did is they forgot about their fans that got them there. It was really because the France Family would not give Bruton Smith any races for his tracks, so he bought racetracks that the France Family did not own and take those tracks' races for his tracks.
They still thrived through that era. But, they took their eye of the ball and valued markets over their core fans and thumbed their nose at tradition. (and Sponsorships and $$$ were driving that boat). Everyone was able to be fat and happy, because the TV contracts provided plenty of revenue.
Then, their passion to try to compete with the NFL led to a playoff system that further distanced the core fans. Revenue sharing (charters) kicked in and the owners pushed to reduced costs + NASCAR saw an opportunity to standardize parts through a single vendor (per part), which also benefitted their interests.
They were successful at attracting the casual fan during their boom, but eventually that casual fan moved on to the next shiny object. Markets and marketing were more important than the on-track product and eventually attendance and viewership plummeted. Plus, networks took the product to secondary cable networks and now, streaming services (trying to force subscriptions), which meant that all of the races couldn't be consumed by the core fan *unless they wanted to open their wallets).
Plus, they moved start times purely at the discretion of the TV networks, which often now results in rain outs or shortened races which could have been run the full distance, had they started at the traditional 1:00 pm.
Fortune 500 companies invested their marketing revenue in other sports/opportunities, the fans went away, the new car isn't competitive unless the tires are dialed in perfect, the playoff system doesn't draw fans, there are bad start times and they now find themselves in a lawsuit due to Charter negotiations that they tried to force down the owners throat (charges of being a monopoly in a legal battle against Team Michael Jordan). Then, there's the in race officiating issues....

Basically, a series of bad mistakes by a leadership group that can't get out of their own way and refuses to acknowledge it's issues.

Trying to do this on the fan's backs will be a mistake.
Don’t forget Matt Kenseths snoozefest of a championship season - which was certainly a contributing factor to changes in the points system.

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Pikapp79 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:51 pm

We aren’t keeping the good ones. Too much money floating around. Going to suck going forward.

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Unread post by ASUTodd » Tue Dec 24, 2024 8:07 pm

Just imagine if Hingle McCringleberry(was in today's college game) and had to do his NFL pregame intro..... Hingle McCringleberry, Western Carolina,.Appalachain State, New Mexico St, Duke, and UCF....

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by Ncmtn » Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:45 pm

The Transfer in thread and new coaches thread are completely blank every day. The transfer out thread has massive talent leaving every day. I'm here for the doomerism. Next season shaping up to be a f*cking bloodbath. It appears players and coaches have no interest in this program anymore. We'll only get the pathetic scraps left over. Well done everyone

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Unread post by ah59396 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 11:28 pm

Ncmtn wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:45 pm
The Transfer in thread and new coaches thread are completely blank every day. The transfer out thread has massive talent leaving every day. I'm here for the doomerism. Next season shaping up to be a f*cking bloodbath. It appears players and coaches have no interest in this program anymore. We'll only get the pathetic scraps left over. Well done everyone
College football is dead so it seems poetic App football dies with it.
YNWA

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by BallantyneApp » Wed Dec 25, 2024 12:08 pm

Ncmtn wrote:
Tue Dec 24, 2024 10:45 pm
The Transfer in thread and new coaches thread are completely blank every day. The transfer out thread has massive talent leaving every day. I'm here for the doomerism. Next season shaping up to be a f*cking bloodbath. It appears players and coaches have no interest in this program anymore. We'll only get the pathetic scraps left over. Well done everyone
We’ve had some of our best players of a 5-6 team transfer, but I wouldn’t call it massive talent leaving

I’m a bit more concerned about the lack of staff hirings then the transfer portal out.

I am ready for contracts to start because this whole free agent every year is dumb

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Re: App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

Unread post by ncman071 » Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:35 pm

people forget there are lots of coaches coaching right now in bowl games....we could very well be getting one or two of those.

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